I am sure you have all seen this film, its probably one of my favourite films and I have watched 100s of times, I love the story, the atmosphere, the direction the characters.
I also love the book but seperate the two in my mind as I feel a film about do androids dream of electic sheep could have been handled in so many ways its difficult to do a total book to film comparision.
Anyway, I was shocked to hear from my mate (who usually likes decent films) thought of it as a boring overrated piece of junk!!
So I just wanted to get the thoughts of the dead men, is this film a classic or marmite?
With you on this Zoot love this film!!!!
Absolute classic!
Classic. Your mate's brain has turned into marmite.
TL.
And available on blu-ray too :D
I've watched it before, and while I thought it was a good film I didn't find it to be a particularly interesting film. It's one of those ones that I watched, went 'Yeah, I can see why this is critically lauded', but probably won't ever bother to watch again. See also Se7en, Fight Club and a couple of others.
It is an all-time fave of mine. As with you I like the mood, the story etc. I can see why it failed at the cinema though - it is not for a broad audience since the pace is a bit slow in order to let you suck in the characters and the environment. I read the (unofficial) sequel book as well and it was surprisingly good.
This is a classic movie that shaped all sci-fi movies and have shaped the cyberpunk culture in huge way. The 5 disc (BD and DVD) is a great buy and well recommended.
I'd argue that movies are a matter of personal opinion. What's great for one person is rubbish for someone else. It's totally subjective.
Except Bladerunner. That's a masterpiece whether you like it or not. It's not a matter of opinion it's a certifiable fact. If you don't like it then you're just weird. :wink:
classic ...imo :D
Bladerunner is an awsome film and an all time classic. i have had it in my collection for many years and watched it many times and probably watch it several times again.
Someone explain why Blade Runner is deemed such a masterpiece?
It's well adirected, acted etc but what else?
It's a great film but then again so is Alien (and likely a few more that I can't think of right now)
Because everything wasn't shiny and new, because the protagonist is a loser, because it rained all the time, and because of Vangelis's soundtrack. IMO.
Even I like it, and I don't like films...
I think it is seen as a classic as it broke new ground for films at the time. People tend to forget that this film is almost 30 years old and was hugely different and 'new' compared to the released films of the day.
To remind people of the context within which Bladerunner should be considered here's a list of the top 20 revenue earning films from 1982, the year in which Bladerunner was released. Put Bladerunner into the context of the below list and you get an idea why a writer of Dicks's skill, a (to be) legendary director and a talented cast managed to put together a classic.
1 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (Univ.)**
2 Tootsie (Colu.)
3 Rocky III (MGM-UA)
4 Porky's (Fox)
5 An Officer and a Gentleman (Para.)
6 The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (Univ.)
7 Star Trek II (Para.)
8 Poltergeist (MGM-UA)
9 Annie (Colu.)
10 48 HRS. (Para.)
11 The Verdict (Fox)
12 Firefox (WB)
13 Gandhi (Colu.)
14 The Toy (Colu.)
15 The Dark Crystal (Univ/AFD)
16 First Blood (Orion)
17 Conan the Barbarian (Univ.)
18 Best Friends (WB)
19 Richard Pryor Live on the Sunset Strip (Colu.)
20 Tron (Disney)
...and then add Bladerunner. For its era it was fantastic and still looks good and views well almost 30 years later. That's testament to its quality.
TL.
Good point. And also an interesting year...
I watched it the other night when I couldn't sleep - I'd seen bits before but never got round to watching the whole film, visually it's lovely, probably comparable to most modern films, I just found the actual film a bit dull & boring, apart from Rutger Hauer, crazy as ever.
Any film which is so heavily focused on technology, shot almost 30 years ago and still standing the test of time by not looking out-of-date, surely is a masterpiece. See also Alien, shot several years before BR.
If you think that isn't an achievement, then just look at Tealeaf's list and watch entry 20 for an example of how quickly things can date...
Wise words.
Also I and some mates have played a game whereby we randomly forward the movie to some arbitrary point and freeze the picture. Then we decide that if we took the image and hung it on the wall, would it be 'art'.Nine times out of ten the answer is yes.
The art direction and visualisation is that good. The comparison with Tron is excellent. On Blue Ray (or DVD for that matter) the film looks like it could have been made yesterday.
As to the actual story being told, someone (wikipedia) once said
QuoteDespite appearing to be an action film, Blade Runner has many dramatic, narrative levels, greatly indebted to film noir conventions, such as the femme fatale, protagonist-narration (removed in later versions), dark and shadowy cinematography, and the questionable moral outlook of the hero, extended to include his humanity.
It is a literate science fiction film, thematically enfolding the philosophy of religion and moral implications of human mastery of genetic engineering in the context of classical Greek drama and hubris, and draws on Biblical images, such as Noah's flood, and literary sources, such as Frankenstein.Linguistically, the theme of mortality is subtly reiterated in the chess game between Roy and Tyrell based on the famous Immortal game of 1851, though Scott has said that was coincidental.
Dr. Tyrell polarizing his office window to control the Sun implies the god-like powers of the Tyrell Corporation.
Blade Runner delves into the implications of technology on the environment and society by reaching to the past, using literature, religious symbolism, classical dramatic themes, and film noir. This tension, among past, present, and future is seen in the retrofitted future of Blade Runner, which is high-tech and gleaming in places but elsewhere decayed and old. Interviewing Ridley Scott in 2002, reporter Lynn Barber in The Observer described the film as: "extremely dark, both literally and metaphorically, with an oddly masochistic feel". Director Scott said he "liked the idea of exploring pain" in the wake of his brother's skin cancer death. "When he was ill, I used to go and visit him in London, and that was really traumatic for me."
A perceptively high level of paranoia exists in the cinematic manifestation of corporate power, omnipresent police, probing lights, and in the power over the individual â€" especially represented by genetic programming of replicants. Control over the environment is large scale, hand in hand with the absence of any natural life, and with artificial animals substituting for the extinct originals. This oppressive backdrop clarifies why people are migrating to off-world colonies. The dystopian themes explored in "Blade Runner" are an early example of cyberpunk concepts expanding into film. The film also makes extensive use of eyes for a variety of themes and manipulated images to call into question reality and our ability to accurately perceive and remember it.
These thematic elements provide an atmosphere of uncertainty for Blade Runner's central theme of examining humanity. In order to discover replicants, an empathy test is used with a number of questions focused on the treatment of animals, thus making it the essential indicator of someone's "humanity". The replicants are juxtaposed with human characters who lack empathy, while the replicants appear to show compassion and concern for one another at the same time as the mass of humanity on the streets is cold and impersonal. The film goes so far as to put in doubt whether Deckard is a replicant and forces the audience to reevaluate what it means to be human. The question of whether Deckard is intended to be a human or a replicant has been an ongoing controversy since the film's release. Both Michael Deeley and Harrison Ford wanted Deckard to be human while Hampton Fancher preferred ambiguity. Ridley Scott has confirmed that in his vision Deckard is a replicant. A unicorn sequence inserted into the Director's Cut and Gaff's parting-gift of an origami unicorn are interpreted by some critics as indicating that Deckard is a replicant, and Gaff knows this because he knows Deckard's thoughts. The interpretation that Deckard is a replicant is challenged by others who believe unicorn imagery shows that the characters, whether human or replicant, share the same dreams and recognise their affinity, or that the absence of a decisive answer is crucial to the film's main theme. The inherent ambiguity and uncertainty of the film, as well as its textual richness, has permitted viewers to appropriate it to support their own speculations and interpretations.