What is Folding@Home???
Folding@Home is a distributed computing project that is run by the Pandegroup at Stanford University. Their goal is to understand protein folding, protein aggregation, and related diseases.
What are proteins and why do they "fold"?
Proteins are biology's workhorses -- its "nanomachines." Before proteins can carry out their biochemical function, they assemble themselves, or "fold." The process of protein folding, while critical and fundamental to virtually all of biology, remains a mystery. Moreover, perhaps not surprisingly, when proteins do not fold correctly (i.e. "misfold"), there can be serious effects, including many well known diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, and Parkinson's disease.
For a protein to fold or misfold takes very little time, but it is hugely complicated. Analyses of the folding of even the simplest of proteins requires significant super computing power. The amount of computing power required to perform these gargantuan calculations and to come up with any worthwhile results is massive and most supercomputers today would buckle under the pressure. This is where we come into the picture with the Folding@Home software.
What does the F@H software do?
The software will then run in the background. It will try to download a set of data (a Work Unit - WU for short) from the Stanford University computers and then start processing the small amount of data. When this work has been done it will send it back to Stanford and ask for more data upon which to work. The WUs take a long time to complete even on the fastest home computers. WUs may take hours and some WUs may take days, so please remember to pause the software first you need to reboot or shut shut down your machine, otherwise the work the you have completed on that WU will be lost and have to be re-started (edit by delanvital: work is now stored at for example 15 or 30 minute check points, you choose interval during installation. This basically means you can leave f@h to itself and you need not pay any special attention to f@h during your daily use of your PC).
You can download the installation package for the F@H program here (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/download.html). Use the name checker at the bottom of this (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/download.html) page to see if your preferred name is unique.
Make sure you enter 33597 (the Dead Men Folding team) as the team number. In addition, it is recommended that you do not run the software in screensaver mode as this slows the speed at which your computer can process the work unit!
Will F@H make my PC run more slowly?
No it will not. When your computer would otherwise be idle, the software grabs the surplus cpu cycles for the benefit of this research and processes some of the data. When your computer needs to do some work for you the F@H program immediately stops. The chances are that you you use only 10% of the processing power that is provided by your Pentium or Athlon powered computer. This means that 90% of the time that your PC is powered up your processor is doing absolutely nothing. By running the Folding@Home software on your PC you can effectively use 100% of the processors capability as it only uses computing cycles that are unused. You should not even notice that it is running. For example, you could run F@H and play CS simultaneously - you should not notice any difference in the speed of your machine! If you want to make absolutely sure, then just adjust the option to limit the processor useage to 90%, thus always leaving 10% in reserve.
Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
In order to generate an additional element of interest in the F@H project, Stanford University allows teams to be set up who then compete to see who has managed to process the most WUs. A completed WU (once received back by the university) is granted a certain number of points depending upon its complexity. More completed WUs equals more points. You can see who is in the Deadmen Folding team by looking here (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=33597). If you join the team (by downloading the software and entering your chosen name and our team number) you will automatically appear on our member's page when your first completed WU has been received.
The Deadmen Folding team is open to anyone, so if you or a computer you know has some spare CPU time then please add it to our team folding effort! Join the team and help us earn some more points!
Permission
Using other PCs to process more WUs and boost both your own and your teams total points score (aka Borging) is very popular. However we do not wish to see anyone losing their job or being reprimanded over F@H. So, if you wish to run the F@H software on machines that are not your own, please make sure that you have permission to do so!
TL.
***BIG BUMP for all them SoG'gers...***
F@H started now for team dMw :D :D
I downloaded it, and now i just executed the file, its "Benchmarking". How do i type in the Team number? do i have to wait until its done benchmarking?
I think benchmarking is fine.
If you right click on the F@H icon by the clock and go to configure, yuou can put in your user name and theres a sport for the team number (33597 is dMw).
If you want to put ThePENDRAGON down as your user name then that too is fine :smile:
Any problems post back here and if I can't solve them there will be someone here who can.
Cheers
PEN
Quote from: Claw;154932F@H started now for team dMw :D :D
:yahoo: Nice one matey !
Now go recruit some more of your pixie friends to come and join in :biggrin:
PEN
I look forward to posting your first milestone :biggrin:
Im now called "neffles" folding for me' homies!
Quote from: Neff;155207Im now called "neffles" folding for me' homies!
Way to go Neff - welcome to the team!
TL.
ive started it :)
Thank you Jewelz^ :clap:
Added my pc at work to it running 24/7 ;)
is it possible to run more pc's under 1 name?
Quote from: Soulbringerx;177265Added my pc at work to it running 24/7 ;)
is it possible to run more pc's under 1 name?
Yes, the more the better :D
Thanks for your support (and Jewelz^).
Quote from: Soulbringerx;177265Added my pc at work to it running 24/7 ;)
is it possible to run more pc's under 1 name?
Yes!
All the computers where I have F@H (F@H) on installed have the same username (I don't even remember how many computers).
If you install it on a workPC, make sure you ask your supervisor. Tell him it's for a good cause: It does research against Alzheimer and such.
For more info check:http://folding.stanford.edu/
hehe i'm the supervisor :):taz:
Trying to convince mine, to let me run it on my computer here at work (there is loads of them here and never turned off - gib 12+ computers to run it on plx), but doesn't look to bright.. Gonna get it up on my home-computer though..
running on 3 24/7 pc's at my work and trying to get it running on headquarters (6 stations + 2 servers) would be nice ;)
I think my boss and the technical department is a bit worried about the security and stuff like that.. This won't compromise anything, right? won't enable the other companies to do industrial espionage, correct yes?
Forgot to get it up at home, but Ill try and remember it in this weekend :lmfao:
Nefertem, it won't compromise any security and it's not a trojan or a backdoor. You download a simple program to the PC. All the program does is download from the Stanford servers a work unit (known as a WU). That WU is then processed (it runs millions of calculations on the scenario and molecule that was listed in the WU) and the program then sends the completed results back to Stanford. When it's finished one WU then it downloads the next one to work on and it just keeps going like that. Remember if any of the PCs you use are dual core then you can run one instance of F@H on each core (i.e. two at the same time).
Hope this helps.
TL.
what I figured :)
Just the tech department being silly and paranoid :sideways:
You've got me going now too :)
Just a quick check, i did what TL said, does this info from the Log mean that it's worked ok yeah?
[23:53:09] Writing local files
[23:53:09] Extra SSE boost OK.
[23:53:09] Writing local files
seems to be ok yes, just go back and check the log file and you should see unit progress.
TL.
I've just downloaded the graphical client version 5 at the moment, i've put my name in and awaiting it to finish benchmarking. I've got to say i think it's a bit confusing all the options you can do, or is this mainly with the console version? There is a wealth of information to go through. I'm just assuming the graphical version is the one which does it all for you. :P
Quote from: Lee;191459I've just downloaded the graphical client version 5 at the moment, i've put my name in and awaiting it to finish benchmarking. I've got to say i think it's a bit confusing all the options you can do, or is this mainly with the console version? There is a wealth of information to go through. I'm just assuming the graphical version is the one which does it all for you. :P
You still need to make sure your name and team are set correctly:
Name: [dMw]Whitey
Team: 33597
OK it's an old one but he hasn't been around here too long and might fall for it....
:narnar: Too late i put my own name in. ^^
The graphical client seems to be stuck on benchmarking on the "waiting for core" section. It progresses to a higher number if i change the display mode or click a bit. o_O I haven't put my team number in yet either. :g:
[Edit] I've restarted it now and it's saying something on the bottom, but seems to be having a problem downloading the core. o_O
[Edit2] Got it, i had to run it as an administrator, looks like that's what you have to do with Vista.
Quote from: Lee;191464:narnar: Too late i put my own name in. ^^
The graphical client seems to be stuck on benchmarking on the "waiting for core" section. It progresses to a higher number if i change the display mode or click a bit. o_O I haven't put my team number in yet either. :g:
[Edit] I've restarted it now and it's saying something on the bottom, but seems to be having a problem downloading the core. o_O
[Edit2] Got it, i had to run it as an administrator, looks like that's what you have to do with Vista.
If you don't have the team number in then the points won't go to dMw and you won't get the credit for your milestones :flirty:
It's ok it's all been sorted now. When i opened it with "run as administrator" the config came up and i could put the team number in and everything ran fluently. :flirty:
Just added this again. Used to have it running but sadly forgot/been too lazy to get it going again after getting a new pc. Shame my pc power has been going to waste but I'm doing my bit again, even if it's only a miniscule amount (I guess that's what it's all about though, every little helps) Added myself to team 33597 under the distinctly unoriginal name of morbo2. Hopefully I can help boost the team score a little. :D
Quote from: morbo;209369Just added this again. Used to have it running but sadly forgot/been too lazy to get it going again after getting a new pc. Shame my pc power has been going to waste but I'm doing my bit again, even if it's only a miniscule amount (I guess that's what it's all about though, every little helps) Added myself to team 33597 under the distinctly unoriginal name of morbo2. Hopefully I can help boost the team score a little. :D
Many thanks Morbo. As you said, every bit helps :clap:
What BB typed. Sometimes you wont even notice it's on, same as here on my work, the programs I use don't use that much of the comp. As the comp is allready on you don't use any extra power (and offcourse the boss pays the energybill anyway)...
Cheers morbo :D:D
Back to folding!! :yahoo:
Quote from: Akall;219439Back to folding!! :yahoo:
Nice :D
Team 33597 has a new member :woot2: :yahoo:
Quote from: no peanuts;221119Team 33597 has a new member :woot2: :yahoo:
Much appreciated. First goal is the 5000 points signature ;)
And another! (hurrah)
ill be donating the massive idle time my server currently has (its on like 3% usage 24/7 atm), and 3 reasonably hefty gaming rigs. not folded in years, be interesting to see how quickly my points stack up ;o
Quote from: pieboy;225055And another! (hurrah)
ill be donating the massive idle time my server currently has (its on like 3% usage 24/7 atm), and 3 reasonably hefty gaming rigs. not folded in years, be interesting to see how quickly my points stack up ;o
Good man :thumb:
Wanna say 'Hello' properly (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=48)?
Quote from: pieboy;225055And another! (hurrah)
ill be donating the massive idle time my server currently has (its on like 3% usage 24/7 atm), and 3 reasonably hefty gaming rigs. not folded in years, be interesting to see how quickly my points stack up ;o
Welcome to the forum, good games last night!!
Why not introduce yourself in here (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=48) . :)
As the others said, cheers and hello!
Set this up on my downloading computer. Been meaning to for ages but kept putting it off. It's on 24/7 so hopefully it'll help with the cause a little.
Quote from: T-Bag;228499Set this up on my downloading computer. Been meaning to for ages but kept putting it off. It's on 24/7 so hopefully it'll help with the cause a little.
Cheers :D
Should now be folding with the ps3 can someone post to confirm? :)
Quote from: Jewelz^;229356Should now be folding with the ps3 can someone post to confirm? :)
You'll have to look here;
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=33597
Quote from: Jewelz^;229356Should now be folding with the ps3 can someone post to confirm? :)
Quote from: DuVeL;229401You'll have to look here;
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=33597
It will show up when you have done your first work unit (WU) and sent it. Do you have progress indicators on the PS3?
Quote from: delanvital;229415It will show up when you have done your first work unit (WU) and sent it. Do you have progress indicators on the PS3?
It says iv done 125 points in the last 24 hours so it must have worked? :narnar:
Quote from: Jewelz^;229446It says iv done 125 points in the last 24 hours so it must have worked? :narnar:
Cool :) You will do a lot more with the PS3 in full 24 hrs :flirty: Wish I had one :) As soon as you have completed your unit, go check the top 20 :)
Can anyone help me? I've just decided that I will give this folding a try and now I've downloaded it to my computer.
And now I've got some problems with it. Every time when I start the F@H, after a while I get this message. ''Folding@home has run into a serious error running the core. and will shutdown''.
Someone please tell me what's wrong!
I'm no expert myself, but which version did you get? CPU command line /taskbar version or the GPU command line / taskbar version?
Quote from: Gaara;257791I'm no expert myself, but which version did you get? CPU command line /taskbar version or the GPU command line / taskbar version?
Not sure.. I chose the first one from the link that TL have posted.. The one for windows xp and vista..
Hmm the taskbar version then. I read that it might have to do with a lack of rights or installing it at a place where you dont have enought rights, for example, program files.
Are you using vista by any chance?
Also, did you try and reinstall the client?
Quote from: Gaara;257794Hmm the taskbar version then. I read that it might have to do with a lack of rights or installing it at a place where you dont have enought rights, for example, program files.
Are you using vista by any chance?
Also, did you try and reinstall the client?
I'm using Windows XP and no I didn't try to reinstall it yet.
Hmm you might want to try and reinstall it in a different location, maybe C:/ or something like that. But like I said, I am no expert in all this, so hopefully one of the big boys will join the topic soon ;)
Could you try and find the file fahlog.txt and post the contents of it here?
I am not totally sure, but it should be here:
Documents and Settings\Username\Application Data\Folding-something (cant recall name)
Quote from: delanvital;257799Could you try and find the file fahlog.txt and post the contents of it here?
I am not totally sure, but it should be here:
Documents and Settings\Username\Application Data\Folding-something (cant recall name)
Documents and Settings\Username\Application Data\Folding-work
I think I got it working now.. At least it says CPU - F@H: Working (0/200)
So is it really trying to do something now?
Quote from: WhiteWolf;257802I think I got it working now.. At least it says CPU - F@H: Working (0/200)
So is it really trying to do something now?
Yes it does appear to be doing something.
By the way the LOG file is usually in the same folder that F@H is installed. In my case it is:
C:\Program Files\Folding@Home
Post the contents here if you like....
I've had that and couldn't solve it.
The only way I got around it was to install the service option. Still not convinced that working correctly either though tbh
PEN
Do you mean that FAHlog.txt?
Quote from: WhiteWolf;257807Do you mean that FAHlog.txt?
Yup. That collects all the data. However, you seem fine now.
Quote from: Penfold;257804I've had that and couldn't solve it.
The only way I got around it was to install the service option. Still not convinced that working correctly either though tbh
PEN
I googled the error earlier and it seems this error occured a couple of times when working with Speicifc WU's. Delete your works folders and F@H will download a new WU and hopefully start folding :yahoo:
Bullets = normal
its a good idea not doing Hard yet so we have something to when we complete it. You know you can change it at anytime in Options, not that youed want to.
Quote from: Litcedia73;292623Bullets = normal
its a good idea not doing Hard yet so we have something to when we complete it. You know you can change it at anytime in Options, not that youed want to.
... spam?
I like this guy's text, it has so many layers and depth that I can't see the message in it. A Hamlet in the making.
I googled "Litcedia73" -----
Got only 1 hit and that's for the post above ..... until you click "repeat search with omitted results included", then you get 3 pages of results .... almost all of them "Dead Men Tallking-Search Results".
Curious
started to fold i think
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