I was thinking about gretting myself an iPhone.
Then I saw this :blink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMIXTi9NX8
I do love the iPhone interface and 35,000 apps in the app store, but against that I have to consider
5.0 mega pixel camera
30 fps DVD quality video
Open source operating system
Full querty keyboard
touch screen keyboard
Flash support (You-tube) not available on the iPhone
Java support not available on the iPhone
9 hours talk time (seven for iPhone)
17 day standby time (ten days on the iPhone)
32 gig of onboard memory (48 gig with memory card)
Rights free music upload and download
But that iPhone interface is very sweet. Nice to have a choice though
Aye, am watching with interest, I was very impressed with Pen's iPhone when I had a play with it at the LAN despite my dislike for all things Appleprietary, so I'll be interested to see how this compares as my contract is now up and I'm looking to replace the phone. The N97 and the iPhone are the current top favourites.
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I like the look of the hardware. Nokia as standalone phones. Problem is moving away from windows mobile would limit my gps options.
As for the iPhone, it's far too limited. Since I went to a symbian phone years ago I decided to not go back to phones where you're so limited "upgradability", so I pretty much choose Nokia or Windows mobile (which pretty much means HTC). There is so much software out there for free for these phones, I wouldn't swap that for a fancier touch screen.
I've just got my wife the HTC Touch Diamond 2. I really like it. It's WM6.1 under the hood but the HTC TouchFlo overlay is an absolute joy. I will probably change to either this or the Touch HD when my contract is up for renewal in October.
Quote from: OldBloke;276275... I will probably change to either this or the Touch HD when my contract is up for renewal in October.
No I won't :D
The HD is no longer in the equation. I'm now considering the Touch Pro 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeX6c4avYpo&feature=channel).
Quote from: OldBloke;276354No I won't :D
The HD is no longer in the equation. I'm now considering the Touch Pro 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeX6c4avYpo&feature=channel).
Flip out keyboard and Wifi are the only additions I would add to the hardware on mine (T-Mobile Compact III - it's HTC not sure which). This seems like the perfect choice. And the interface looks great without even needing PointUI etc.
I have an nokia e51 the phone unfortunately is reliant on the operating symbian system for flash updates.
So for example when i view youtube or other flash websites it says my flash is out of date. I try installing the adobe flash from the adobe website but it doesn't work.
After speaking to several phone people over the phone and in person aswell as with nokia support it seems as though nokia haven't given a new flash version in their firmware updates. Providing you can update the flash normally then its a good buy. Thats my only concern.
Odd? I have an E90 and it sees flash fine. I've not installed anything extra either. However I always de-brand my phones as soon as I get them. So I get the latest Symbian OS. Maybe that might be the issue?
I do like the look of the HTC Touch Pro2. although my experiences of Windows Mobile OS have not been good in the past. And Symbian is a great mobile OS.
Either way it looks like we really are spoilt for choice though :)
Ive had a 2g iPhone since release and i was very pleased with it, although ive decided that £35 a month for a phone is too much so im selling it and going pay as you go on my old phone :)
N97 looks sweet tho
I love my iPhone. I love the wifi, the 3g, the apps and the fact it keeps the kids quiet whilst they watch High School Musical or Star Wars videos and play games.
'nuff said
I am guessing the iphone still does not allow itself to be used as an internet connection for the laptop, whereas the Nokia has existing Symbian software to do this?
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well, I picked up the HTC Magic (http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html) at launch and so far am very impressed. Oh, and it's not Apple :narnar:
I'm sure there are far better phones out there than the iPhone. In fact the worst aspect of the iPhone is, ironically, the phone part of it.. :blink:
I still think Windows mobile is a rotten mobile OS and HTC should be applauded for managing to cover up the bad bits so well. I was playing with their new touchflow 3D system this week and it's very nice. But underneath still lurks a beast. Compared to the iPhone it's not in the same league IMHO. However the iPhone does have some problems. My main concern is that while 3rd parties can write apps for it we have to wait for Apple to introduce core features such as multimedia messaging, cut and paste, You -tube integration etc. The new v3.0 software looks to fix many of the problems but it's a year behind Symbian and Andriod. Both these OS's are open source so there are no restrictions on who can write apps and bring in new features etc.
I guess you pick the phone for what you need. I need the ability to write lots of text in e-mail, SMS and forum posts. So I need a qwerty keyboard. An 5+ mega-pixel camera and the ability to shoot good quality video would be nice. Being able to connect it to a Linux PC is also a plus. So for me the iPhone is not the answer and nor is a Windows mobile phone. Horses for courses I suppose.
Oh and it seems the N97 will sell for £490 as a standalone phone. I'd like to get free from these 18 month and 24 month contracts but 500 quid is a big ask. The problem with networked smart phones is that the manufacturers i.e. Nokia offer continuous updates and bug fixes for their OS. But when a phone is branded to Vodaphone, O2 etc the updater will not work. It seems the mobile companies never update their branded version of the OS and so two years down the line you're using an OS that is horribly out of date and missing a load of new features. The only answer is a debrand which potentially invalidates your warrenty. Going with Orange or T-mobile is even worse as you have to also get the sim lock taken off which definitely voids the warranty.
I think this is a real issue with mobile phone companies. My mate has an orange Nokia 95 which is running version 1.15 software. My vanilla N95 runs version 30.0. This list of updates between the two phones is vast and side by side they could almost be different phones. Not very impressive.
If you buy via mobiles.co.uk the phone is unbranded. I believe the same goes for their parent company - carphonewarehouse.
Quote from: OldBloke;276914If you buy via mobiles.co.uk the phone is unbranded. I believe the same goes for their parent company - carphonewarehouse.
Thanks for the link bookmarked for next years renewal :D
Continuing this discussion as early June is here and I am starting to see the odd shop or two say they have stock fo the HTC Touch Pro2.
My original plan was to consider buying from Orange as that's who I am with, but Smilo made an excellent point about upgradeable software on the devices and it has really got me thinking. I can see the logic in having an unlocked phone, but £500 is a big ask for the benefit of the unlocked phone, particularly when voided warranties are mentioned.
I'm left confused and still wanting a new phone. I'm after the ability to synch to Outlook properly, email and document control and the nice screen with an unlimited data pay-monthly package. All 3 phones seem to offer the possibilities, an Orange HTC Touch Pro2 might deliver it cheapest but then I miss out on the OS update as mentioned by Smilo. Bah, I hate not knowing what decision to make....
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....and now we can add the iPhone 3GS (http://www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3g-s/) to the discussion, announced two days ago. Some of those 'wanted' features are included Smilo....
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Some nice features. Although it still amazes me that Apple are crowing about 'new' features that most other top end mobile phones have had as standard for several years. Cut and paste? Video capture? And a 3 meg camera? My old Nokia N95 has a 5 meg camera and my mates Sony has an 8 meg one!
But still no proper qwerty keyboard, which is a bit of a deal breaker for me. However the interface still looks stunning and the Apple Apps Store makes Nokia's Ovi Store look like a joke.
Quote from: GhostMjr;276357I have an nokia e51 the phone unfortunately is reliant on the operating symbian system for flash updates.
Try the Skyfire browser.
Quote from: smilodon;278703Some nice features. Although it still amazes me that Apple are crowing about 'new' features that most other top end mobile phones have had as standard for several years. Cut and paste? Video capture? And a 3 meg camera? My old Nokia N95 has a 5 meg camera and my mates Sony has an 8 meg one!
It's true, I was a little disapointed in the camera included in the iPhone, considering the N95 has a 5MegaPixel one. it's also missing a Flash, and it doesnt allow to record video. Which I thought was pretty poor.
Other than that I love the iPhone.
Quote from: smilodon;278703But still no proper qwerty keyboard, which is a bit of a deal breaker for me. However the interface still looks stunning and the Apple Apps Store makes Nokia's Ovi Store look like a joke.
Is it the iPhone you are refering too? It does have a qwerty keyboard.
I always use Expansys (http://www.expansys.co.uk/) for my unbranded phones.
I am in the same boat. Want to replace my old phone. I have been reading this thread with great interest. I am, however, also left unable to decide. I want a good camera (but dont care about mpix), decent web-browsing (pens iphone was impressive here), a good os with apps (symbian? win?), a chance to read pdf and possiblt doc, email and outlook sync.
...looking at my requirements I know I want a small PC FFS... :frusty:
Quote from: delanvital;278729I am in the same boat. Want to replace my old phone. I have been reading this thread with great interest. I am, however, also left unable to decide. I want a good camera (but dont care about mpix), decent web-browsing (pens iphone was impressive here), a good os with apps (symbian? win?), a chance to read pdf and possiblt doc, email and outlook sync.
...looking at my requirements I know I want a small PC FFS... :frusty:
HTC Magic. I have one and love it. Can do all the above with ease.
Quote from: Gandalf;278730HTC Magic. I have one and love it. Can do all the above with ease.
Cool :) Would that happen to have WLAN as well?
I am so annoying I know... I want all the features for no money in a large screen phone which is small enough to feel like a phone when talking from it and stuffing it into your pocket :whistle:
Quote from: delanvital;278731Cool :) Would that happen to have WLAN as well?
Yup, works great.
Quote from: Gandalf;278734Yup, works great.
After reading a bit, that does sound like a phone for me. It also seems that tethering is possible (http://www.junefabrics.com/android/index.php) on Android so I don't have to go and buy wireless lan for the laptop (even my old w810 can do this). I am almost certain, this will be my choice :)
How are these phones for internet browsing?
I'm specifically thinking of a work related issue where we have an online communications and maintenance system. The width of the browser window often goes quite wide though. Would also need to be quick as far as internet stuff goes. Possible?:blink:
UK bods - buy from http://www.mobiles.co.uk as all their phones are unlocked plus they can do official upgrades for O2 and Orange even to phones that the network themselves don't supply.
I'm looking at getting an iphone 3GS for work, it seems to address many of the criticisms levelled ah its predecessor:
- tethering
- video recording
- Tom tom GPS (extra dosh) coming out shortly
and now a cool compass - what more could you want from a phone?
:flirty:
keyboard, decent camera, the ability to install applications not necessarily accepted by Apple. The list grows shorter but it's still there :wink:
should have had 1 delivered today... but the driver got lost and couldnt find my house, i even saw the wagon drive past ...:ranting2:
maybe tomorrow
IF you have one of these do not upgrade to the new version of the os its utterly pants!!!!
I had a phone that worked very well and very very few problems. Now I have one that is slow, crashes and is very unresponsive. Well done Nokia!!!
Mr Angry of Bristol!!!
im on 3 still waiting for 1.12