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So a kid wanting to get mummy a present might be in trouble...
How do you think Toby started? He was under 18 and got a knifeset for his mom but he kept trying them himself. :flirty:
OMG!, I have tio eat my dinner, yet I might be a murderer, so sweet the anarchy!!:taz::devil::D
Now let's kill parents just for the fun of it!:D:D:D:D:D:D
I kid you not, I got asked for ID when buying a 16 piece cutlery set yesterday in sainsbury's! She even took my driving license and wrote down all the details off it. Some under 25 rule they have now. ha! :doh:
Crazy nation full of crazy people following crazy made up rules of king crazy of health and safety! :g:
Quote from: DannagE;287810I kid you not, I got asked for ID when buying a 16 piece cutlery set yesterday in sainsbury's! She even took my driving license and wrote down all the details off it. Some under 25 rule they have now. ha! :doh:
Crazy nation full of crazy people following crazy made up rules of king crazy of health and safety! :g:
Maybe you look like a felon?? :lmfao:
But seriously, WHY?! I mean most homes have atleast 20 knifes in any size in there kitchen. If you wanted to stab someone, why buy a full dinner set, when you can get 1 easy as pie at home :doh:
Luckily I live in holland, where you can buy any kitchen knife of any size, at whatever age you are.
Quote from: Luminance;287828Maybe you look like a felon?? :lmfao:
But seriously, WHY?! I mean most homes have atleast 20 knifes in any size in there kitchen. If you wanted to stab someone, why buy a full dinner set, when you can get 1 easy as pie at home :doh:
Luckily I live in holland, where you can buy any kitchen knife of any size, at whatever age you are.
I reckon the argument is that cutlery can be used to stab people -> minors can not acquire guns and survival knifes, but can acquire cutlery -> purchase should be supervised.
The thing is, if this was to work there should be supervision with just about any somewhat solid article including keys, pencils, bottles and tons of DIY-equipment etc ... This is so silly!
Quote from: delanvital;287835I reckon the argument is that cutlery can be used to stab people -> minors can not acquire guns and survival knifes, but can acquire cutlery -> purchase should be supervised.
The thing is, if this was to work there should be supervision with just about any somewhat solid article including keys, pencils, bottles and tons of DIY-equipment etc ... This is so silly!
lmao! I've not been or looked like a minor for 10 years! I hadn't even had a shave the day it happened. I did laugh at her and say thanks, made me feel younger :D
And about the other sharp objects, have you seen the last batman where joker kills the guy with a pen. Classic death that, KAPOW!
if you really wish to kill someone premeditated, using a knife already existing in your kitchen is not the way to go, therefore buying a new one will make sense.. I see your point though, besides I doubt it will be difficult for people to get a knife outside of usual appliances stores..
The few times I've been asked to show an ID, has been in norway.. no where else has I been asked to show it.. Since I was 15....
Knives are not hard to get hold of. The logic is their parents will notice a missing knife and instantly dissuade their child from a life of knife crime and criminal adventures.
If it's anything like my house you have one knife set and dozens of loose knives that could be misplaced without anyone noticing. If I were 12 I could stock up on knives without my parents knowing. Age limit or not.
There was a boom in knife crime and this was brought in to try and make it look like something was being done, but now nobody wants to be the person who says "I think kids should be allowed to buy knives". It's not a big deal for the kids though, they can buy a gun instead relatively easily.
I can fully agree with people asking kids for id or people just buying a knife and nothing else.
But they need to use some common sense! I was buying a whole load of food and water and all sorts, and a cutlery set. Clearly I was planning to use the knives for something other than eating :doh:
Hehehehe That is nuts!!!:D
I have bought both my kids Jackknives and I teach all the kids in my Cub Scout group how to use knives all the time. I'll be watching my back from now on I tell ya:roflmao:
I was in the scouts, and also my folks and other olders and betters let me handle knives. To which end I became aware of the dangers and how to use the properly.
As snokio and Lex can vouch for.
Yup. It only takes one time cutting yourself to learn you don't want to repeat it:)
Although, in some circles, this is a high.........
Drugs, kids don't do it, cutting yourself however, parents understand?, or do they.......what drug does your child take?
Please be aware......more children harm themselves with self abuse than drug taking..............And it only takes a conversation, although it might be the hardest "interview" of your life.
I think you misconstrued what I was saying M8:)
Or maybe not but that kind of cutting was not what I was talking about.
I still don't get why a kid would do that. I think it's probably got something to do with all this emo rubbish them kids listen to. It wasn't like this in my day.
(I'm 22, but I'm practising these sorts of generic speeches for when I get older)
Quote from: T-Bag;288468I still don't get why a kid would do that. I think it's probably got something to do with all this emo rubbish them kids listen to. It wasn't like this in my day.
(I'm 22, but I'm practising these sorts of generic speeches for when I get older)
I have a friend who was a cutter for several years. To the best of my knowledge, you do it to feel pain, because pain is nonetheless something you can feel. You can go so numb and feel so empty inside that just feeling something helps you connect with the world around you.
Quote from: delanvital;288470I have a friend who was a cutter for several years. To the best of my knowledge, you do it to feel pain, because pain is nonetheless something you can feel. You can go so numb and feel so empty inside that just feeling something helps you connect with the world around you.
I know the basic "they do it so they feel something" idea behind it. I just don't get why there are ever more depressed people unable to feel. Is it bad parenting, leaving the kids unattended feeling unloved, is is children are meaner than they used to be meaning there are more outcasts, or is it that it's been built up by the media that it's cool to be depressed.
Much like eating disorders started becoming a bigger problem when the media glamorised thinner people, drinking is getting worse and celebs are splashed all over magazines drunk daily.
I know it's probably a sweeping generalisation but it seems like the younger you start treating children as adults the more problems they have. They need freedom, but also good role models.
Quote from: T-Bag;288475I know the basic "they do it so they feel something" idea behind it. I just don't get why there are ever more depressed people unable to feel. Is it bad parenting, leaving the kids unattended feeling unloved, is is children are meaner than they used to be meaning there are more outcasts, or is it that it's been built up by the media that it's cool to be depressed.
In this case, I think, it was bad parenting and total lack of emotion and interests from the parents side. I guess growing up in such a home, with no emotion, is a bad track towards feeling numb.
Quote from: T-Bag;288475I know the basic "they do it so they feel something" idea behind it. I just don't get why there are ever more depressed people unable to feel. Is it bad parenting, leaving the kids unattended feeling unloved, is is children are meaner than they used to be meaning there are more outcasts, or is it that it's been built up by the media that it's cool to be depressed.
Much, much deeper my friend. Whilst lack of attention is always a "key" destabiliser, society as a whole in the West has become very "detached" from personal relationships and forming physical and psychological bonds.
Previously "we" might have formed teams\societies\allegancies\clubs based upon socio-economic guidelines, and this gave us a feeling of belonging to a subset, regardless of how low that subset might have been. Today, we all "aspire", and in that inspiration to be more than might simply make us happy, we have lost the essence of simplicity.
It is a common held belief in these times that unless you are successful, both financially and personally, you are nothing!!......and with opportunities forever being limited, "we" are creating the perfect recipe for Anarchy across the World.
Let me ask you a question.....when was the last time you did something for someone, you might not know, a "selfless act if you will"?.....a genuine act of kindness, without thought of reward?.
Sadly we as a Society (the West) are becoming so self obsessed with ourselves (a ME culture) that I would predict within a lifetime the West will fall, much as did the Chinese Dynasties, simply because we forgot basic principles.......Kindness and Humility far outweigh a bank balance and a brand new Porsche.....although I am sure some Monkeys still believe they have real talent, as opposed to their parents paying over the odds for a "nondescript, fawning and somewhat bland offspring".:devil:
F**k, is that the Tome already (you know who you are), I should be going, as i have not understood Irony, or the fact that I am a fettered soul......
Some lives are meant to be ,
And some have it handed on a plate,
But rest assured
There is only one keeper of the Gate
Ooh, time for my Meds......I wonder what the movie is tonight
Frickin typical, "Gorillas in the Mist"
Skynet, you is de man!!:yahoo: