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Title: Considering a break
Post by: Azunai on October 20, 2009, 10:36:50 PM
Lo folks.

I already lightly touched on it after tonight's raid, but I just wanted to post it here since not everyone was there. I'm considering taking a break as raidleader/from raiding with DMR.

I know I've ranted on about low performance for some bit but this is not about DMR as a whole, nor is it about tonight's raid specifically. This is just me being tired of going nowhere. And I don't mean tired as in a rant, just being tired in the zzZZzz kind of way of wipes night in and night out. I know it's part of the job, just that since DMR is one of those where progress is quite slow to show it really takes alot of energy from me to keep asking people to move from Fire, to do X, to prepare for Y, when in terms of progress there's so little to show for it.

I think it's also partly to do with me just not enjoying it alot. I know wipes are a common thing when on a new boss, it's just that we have been doing it alot for the past few months and only taking down 3 bosses. That's why I'm enjoying such trialing nights as we had when doing hardmodes in Uld10 last friday. It's alot of wiping to be sure, but progress is made with pretty much every wipe. We were getting somewhere. What's bugging me quite a bit is that there's little challenge in the fights for me personally. That's not to sound cocky by saying "pff I got this fight sorted in 2 tries and have to wait for everyone else to catch up" but to be frank I'm not experiencing alot of challenge in terms of tanking in our current content. I find myself pretty much exclusively trying to get others to do their job right. It's getting to me a bit that I can't find many things to improve on for my part but lots for others (mostly since me needing to improve mostly comes from dps starting to generate more aggro). Easy to say since it's often easier to spot flaws with others than with yourself, but you'll just have to trust me that I don't mean that in a boasty kind of way.

Basically I wanna take a week or 2 off of raiding and see what I want to do. It already falls in sync with a few absent nights from me anyway (not gonna make raid times come thursday or thursday the week after).
Title: Considering a break
Post by: sheepy on October 20, 2009, 10:53:12 PM
its a good idea to take a break every now and again, I took one and now I really want to raid but, im having problems with my machine! (and now starting a new career!)

tbh if you think you need a break then you do need one, i know your not the sort of guy to say something unless you have thought about it a bit.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Gandalf on October 21, 2009, 07:08:35 AM
I agree, a break is good every now and then, and I totally understand what you say as it's been on my mind too.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: evoxer on October 21, 2009, 09:23:45 AM
Hugely understandable everyone gets "wowed out" now and then and its good to take a break. Hope you enjoy your time out bud and return full of enthusiasm ready to hit content hard.

Hopefully you'll still be around not raiding etc to chat, heroic, farm, etc with.

All the best bud
Evo
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Azunai on October 28, 2009, 09:46:25 PM
Can we have a chat about this on TS say...tomorrow before or after the raid if you guys are available?
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Gandalf on October 28, 2009, 09:58:13 PM
I'm not around tomorrow evening I'm afraid.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Azunai on October 28, 2009, 10:20:25 PM
Friday then? Basically I just want to talk to as many as I can at once.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Baylien on October 29, 2009, 12:08:14 AM
I'm about every evening for a while, although not always on aszune, will be on thursday and friday night for a bit
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Gandalf on October 29, 2009, 07:16:52 AM
Friday is fine for me too.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: evoxer on October 29, 2009, 01:15:43 PM
Im away friday but should be there this evening bud.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Gandalf on October 29, 2009, 03:17:28 PM
Quote from: evoxer;294480Im away friday but should be there this evening bud.

Well, if you get more people available for tonight, then do it then and someone can fill me in on friday.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Azunai on October 30, 2009, 11:30:09 AM
Would like to pop it up tonight if ppl can be there, about 20:00-ish GT? Or before as I think you have a Naxx10 alt run planned?
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Gandalf on October 30, 2009, 11:31:52 AM
yup, I'll be there. Should be online 19:30 server time onwards.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: JonnyAppleSeed on October 30, 2009, 04:12:10 PM
just give me a nudge :)
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Azunai on October 31, 2009, 12:10:17 AM
Right I've had a chat with Necro and Jas tonight, and seeing as it's rather hard to get as many of you guys together in 1 channel I'll just post the gist of it here.

Basically, I'm looking for another raid group.

Reason for this is because I want to go more 'hardcore' if you will. That doesn't mean 6 days a week 10 hours per day's worth of raiding, but you know.. a step up.

It's not an idea that flew in over the past few days or weeks, but something I've been toying with over a long time. I've just never done something with it because I always felt more or less guilty I guess, since I'm an officer. The thought however has been in my mind since midway through Ulduar abouts. This is why I took the break, not so much to figure out what I want, but to see what the effect would be on the guild. Fortunately it seems I don't have to worry much, with Anub dead and all.

As such it's not that I am blaming DMR for lack of progress or whatnot. We don't have to lie to eachother here, despite our efforts DMR will not be a guild on top of the proverbial foodchain. And it probably shouldn't aim to either, due to the somewhat casual/social nature of the guild. It's fine the way it is, and efforts that we make are in order to keep it at that level.

It's just me wanting something more from my raid time than I feel I can currently get in DMR.

That said however, I don't want to sever all ties with DMR, because DMR is probably the best guild I've ever been in in terms of social cohesion, and there's not a single person in the guild today who I feel is a total jerk, which is a first for me. On the negative side, the problem is that it's quite hard to find a place to go as a tank since most of the medium-high end guilds have tanks who are settled, loyal and dependable and are unlikely to leave any time soon. I applied to Origin and while they liked my application, they could not give me a spot for this reason.

So I'm not gone just yet, consider this a heads-up of the fact that I'm looking out for a spot elsewhere. I don't mind raiding in the meanwhile but I would consider it no more than normal to pass out on loot when doing so.

....how do I always end up writing huge walls of text even when I set out to give a rather short notice? :<
Title: Considering a break
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 31, 2009, 12:18:01 PM
We like walls of text! :biggrin:

Personally, despite my huge loyalty and ties to DMR,  I do not raid with DMR for precisely those reasons, so I think I can safely say I do understand where you are Garrit.  That being said, DMR are making progress and the changes Gandalf has introduced and continues to introduce will make DMR a stronger raiding guild but still with that social cohesiveness that we all love.

It's a courageous step to take and I wish you the very all the very best in finding what you want.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: sheepy on October 31, 2009, 08:28:08 PM
same here m8. I understand what you are looking for and not sooooo far in the distant past the same thoughts were going through my head, but due to personal reasons they never became more than thoughts, so i can understand where you are coming from. It would be a huge shame to lose you as  raider.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Azunai on November 04, 2009, 12:58:22 AM
Things have moved rather quickly it seems. I applied to Origin last week but as I said they were full. This week a spot in Eluo came up so I applied and have been given a trial for the upcoming weeks. They've put me up for tomorrow night already so I'm going to make the transition then.

This is just a post then to make sure there's nothing we need to go over before doing so? I do believe I'm leaving behind a solid tanking team at least, seeing as we have tanks in offspec running around quite regularly. Apart from that, if there is anything... do poke me for a TS talk or whatnot.

If it's ok I would like to stay in DMR with my alts, but I would find it no more than normal if my remaining toons would be stripped of their officer rank/guild bank privileges. That I will leave up to you guys.

That said, I don't know how to finish this really. This is not goodbye by any means. I would like to remain part of the DMW community as it's a great initiative and has great people in it. Furthermore, although this sounds rather sudden and blunt, I wish you lot a big good luck in carrying on raid leading. It's been an honor to be part of the team for my part. So... yeah.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: TeaLeaf on November 04, 2009, 08:05:16 AM
Grtz Garrit, GL with the trial.

I've already PM'd Gandalf about this a couple of days back, but seeing as it is now in the Council forum then I'll make my comment here:  

As I have a foot in both Eluo & DMR camps I thought I would confirm for the record that nobody in Eluo either sought or encouraged Garrit's application, it just arrived and was all his own work as they say.  I don't want anyone to feel Eluo was working to 'steal' one of DMR's members.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Azunai on November 04, 2009, 09:59:45 AM
To add to that, I did not specifically apply to Eluo due to TL having an influence or whatnot either. As said I was on the lookout for any high-end raiding guild with a spot open. Coincidence wills that Eluo just happened to be the first.
Title: Considering a break
Post by: sheepy on November 04, 2009, 07:29:41 PM
GL garrit, i know you will be a damn good addition to the raid force over there and im sure no one will object to you staying in dmr with your alts
Title: Hiatus - feel free to link this in public.
Post by: Baylien on November 17, 2009, 04:04:59 PM
Hello guys, you've likely noticed I've been vacant from WoW recently. I have hardly had time to do so recently. The only playtime recently I've had was spent using WoW as an instant messenger to my sister on Arathor-EU.
I've been working alot recently, coupled with helping my brother and 'seeing' a girl(which hopefully will evolve soon ^^) it has meant little time. I'll be honest WoW has always been a filler for me, something to plug gaps. But now it seems I don't have many aforementioned gaps in my life.
The reason for this post is to declare a hiatus from WoW, but I might be back depending on how things work out. So not goodbye, most likely a see you later.
With all this I am giving my sister my druid, he will remain on my account and she said I can bring him back to Aszune anytime I want.
I'll miss the team stuff and the chats, but this is best for me, I don't want WoW to creep too high on my priority list.
I will jump online when I get time to say hi and check in on the guild, on an alt. But not sure if I'll be back raiding too soon.
Thank you for letting me join you so openly, the will of this guild to give people a chance makes it special. I'd like to stay on the forum and have an alt stay in the guild if that's ok.
Again thank you, and good luck!
 Signed the coffee filled raiding tree Baylien
:byebye:
Title: Considering a break
Post by: JonnyAppleSeed on November 17, 2009, 05:32:45 PM
Cheers bud ... You will have a warm seat in the corner for when/if you come back. As for the forums you will always be a member so please dont be a stranger
The only thing we would do is knock down ya status to friendly in a hope that you come back at some point
I hope you get a bit more time to play at some point as you will leave some big boots to fill... and ill be lost without your awsome tallents to follow.
Thanks for you time and efforts with dMr without it we would not have moved this far :crying:
Title: Considering a break
Post by: Gandalf on November 17, 2009, 10:35:34 PM
Sorry to see you go, but real life does come first.

Thanks for all your help in the past, and as Jas said, there is always a spot for you.