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dMw Chit Chat => The Beer Bar => Technology Section => Topic started by: kregoron on October 28, 2009, 09:52:44 PM

Title: warning x25-m
Post by: kregoron on October 28, 2009, 09:52:44 PM
Intel just released a new firmware update for the x25-m Gen2 drives, promising performance gains up too 30 in write mode with TRIM support

Tho now several users (myself included) is experiencing that the drives stoppes working and causes windows to crash under windows 7
Title: warning x25-m
Post by: Snokio on October 28, 2009, 10:00:14 PM
not reached it's EOL already has it :rolleyes:
 
Do SSD's still have limited number of writes?
Title: warning x25-m
Post by: Gandalf on October 28, 2009, 10:13:22 PM
Quote from: Snokio;294423Do SSD's still have limited number of writes?

Yup they do. But the chance of you hitting that in the lifespan of an average computer is small, unless you defrag your entire hard drive every day.
Title: warning x25-m
Post by: kregoron on October 28, 2009, 11:02:01 PM
Intel claims that their drives has a 100Gb per day x 5 year life span, i read a pile of tests, techpapers and so on about it when i bought em, and those numbers are with a large amount of margin built in, so chances are they will last twice or 3 times as long on enthusiast usage..
Example the intel drives has a Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF) at 1.2 or 1.3 mil hours.

on top of that, intel drives are actually larger then you think, example my 80Gb's actually contains 6-7Gb more the announced, at the end of the disks lifespan, more and more sectors will fail, and the disk will automaticly start writing to those hidden sectors, maintaining the 80Gb active size.. but S.M.A.R.T will start giving you warnings when that happens.
Title: warning x25-m
Post by: lionheart on October 28, 2009, 11:27:40 PM
The Crucial drive I've just bought has a 5 year warranty, they must be confident in its longevity to give it that long.
Title: warning x25-m
Post by: Snokio on October 29, 2009, 06:25:44 PM
Quote from: kregoron;294436Intel claims that their drives has a 100Gb per day x 5 year life span, i read a pile of tests, techpapers and so on about it when i bought em, and those numbers are with a large amount of margin built in, so chances are they will last twice or 3 times as long on enthusiast usage..
Example the intel drives has a Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF) at 1.2 or 1.3 mil hours.
 
on top of that, intel drives are actually larger then you think, example my 80Gb's actually contains 6-7Gb more the announced, at the end of the disks lifespan, more and more sectors will fail, and the disk will automaticly start writing to those hidden sectors, maintaining the 80Gb active size.. but S.M.A.R.T will start giving you warnings when that happens.

But even with SMART, you would of thought there was a parameter on the number Writes, as they already include Spin up counts and I think POH?
 
Intresting about the additional capacity though :thumb:
Title: warning x25-m
Post by: Padding on October 29, 2009, 08:51:43 PM
Firmware been pulled again from the website, and waiting to be re-released
Title: warning x25-m
Post by: kregoron on October 29, 2009, 09:54:39 PM
Quote from: Padding;294552Firmware been pulled again from the website, and waiting to be re-released

yeah but they could have done that before i update :P

Thank god i had the old firmware saved

QuoteBut even with SMART, you would of thought there was a parameter on the number Writes, as they already include Spin up counts and I think POH?
 
Intresting about the additional capacity though :thumbup:

yeah but Spin is one "item" doing it, number writes would have to be logged for each sector, or even each bit, which actually would takes a lot of space to store :)