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Forum Archive 2023 => Games of old that no longer float our boat........ => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Call of Duty => Topic started by: todd on November 21, 2009, 09:17:09 PM

Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: todd on November 21, 2009, 09:17:09 PM
Ok Today i was accused of hacking useing an elevator and elevator is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xR0rylj9FE this my freinds record of me doing and elevator for him on Map chinatown it explains wat the thing i did to do on overgrown theres 2 ways elevator and strafe jump i chose elevator coz its easyiest i was told to stop coz it was an exploit so i stopped i didnt hack i understand being called it coz you might not of see it before
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: b00n on November 21, 2009, 09:30:00 PM
There is no difference in exploiting and hacking, both are banned.  I can't imagine how you would think that the content of that video is okay to use.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: todd on November 21, 2009, 09:32:10 PM
its quite easy exploits are used every were
overgrown on roof ? on the tin bridge roof ? even on the fence still an exploit
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: DarkAngel on November 21, 2009, 09:33:54 PM
Wow i think i need to take a breath after that.

Ok after inspection of the video its clear to me that we wouldn't allow this on our server. You could not do this in real life and in my own opinion this is a exploit and recommend you don't do it.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: DarkAngel on November 21, 2009, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: todd;296995its quite easy exploits are used every were
overgrown on roof ? on the tin bridge roof ? even on the fence still an exploit

Its obvious that your using a exploit and therefore cheating, if you want to play on our servers just don't do it. We prefer to play the game as it should be played.
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Post by: Luminance on November 21, 2009, 09:45:09 PM
Quote from: DarkAngel;296997Its obvious that your using a exploit and therefore cheating, if you want to play on our servers just don't do it. We prefer to play the game as it should be played.

says the man with impossible shots :sideways:   (kididng, just jealous :D)


But like DA said, any for of cheating is ban-able not just on our server, but on almost any tactical playing server. This goes for any sort of cheating, even exploits.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: GhostMjr on November 21, 2009, 10:29:31 PM
Can this thread be closed until a formal decision is made by a senior admin?
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Doorman on November 21, 2009, 10:39:10 PM
Quote from: GhostMjr;296999Can this thread be closed until a formal decision is made by a senior admin?
Not when it's just becoming interesting. :)
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Snokio on November 21, 2009, 10:58:29 PM
Doesn't need discussing, it is not even a questionable exploit, its not allowed on the servers full stop.
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Post by: Othbarty on November 21, 2009, 10:58:33 PM
This is CLEARLY a exploit, and should not be used, end of story :)
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Soon Jung on November 21, 2009, 11:00:34 PM
Quote from: todd;296993http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xR0rylj9FE this my freinds record of me doing and elevator for him on Map chinatown it explains wat the thing i did to do on overgrown theres 2 ways elevator and strafe jump i chose elevator coz its easyiest i was told to stop coz it was an exploit so i stopped i didnt hack i understand being called it coz you might not of see it before

What you show in this clip from youtube is an exploit, and therefore should not be used. Granted, there is many spots one can get to in different maps, but whats shown in this movieclip is NOT allowed as it is clearly an exploit.
If you used that one during your gameplay on the servers, it is cheating, and if you continue to use exploits you will be banned.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: kregoron on November 21, 2009, 11:00:45 PM
This goes agaisnt the rules.
Unintended usage of game mechanics, exploiting, call it what you want.. Its not intended and anyone found using it on the server should be removed ASAP as pr our rules
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Post by: Penfold on November 21, 2009, 11:12:03 PM
T'others have said it all really... it's a total no-brainer.

It's not a hack but it's patently an exploit and as such is not acceptable on our servers (and fundamentally breaks both our  game play rules and ethos). Doesn't mean you're not welcome to play on our servers, just please don't employ it in your gameplay :)
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Blunt on November 21, 2009, 11:22:23 PM
If you can't get there by a normal jump, you shouldn't be there:sideways:
The clip is obviously a form of cheating and is not allowed.
Please refrain from using exploits on our servers.
The reason that many people enjoy playing on our servers is because we play fairly and tactically, if we allowed this sort of stuff it would no longer be enjoyable.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Doorman on November 22, 2009, 12:01:04 AM
Quote from: Blunt;297009The clip is obviously a form of cheating and is not allowed.
Not just a FORM of cheating...it IS cheating. I love the coy use of the word 'exploit', the word it 'cheat' pure and simple. Just like Thierry Henri. :flirty:
Seriously, the gap between 'exploits' and what we have come to regard as 'proper' cheating, i.e. aimbots and wallhacks, isn't big enough to measure.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Whitey on November 22, 2009, 01:30:55 AM
If I witnessed that on one of our servers I would kick the person doing it and issue a permanent ban. :sideways:

It's cheating and we don't permit it.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: T-Bag on November 22, 2009, 02:01:59 AM
I play at dmw because it is a nice place to be with a server where I'm free from people doing this sort of thing. There are many servers where you can play spiderman but when you're on ours you can't.

We're a friendly bunch so don't be put off, but just because punkbuster is fine with something doesn't mean it's not a blatant breach of the gameplay.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: BrotherTobious on November 22, 2009, 02:23:05 AM
So Todd I hope this answers you question.  We have a certain way of playing and it is our server.

You are always welcome to come back as along as you play by our rules.  I for one hope you try the way we play.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: todd on November 22, 2009, 09:43:54 AM
Quote from: Blunt;297009If you can't get there by a normal jump, you shouldn't be there:sideways:
The clip is obviously a form of cheating and is not allowed.
Please refrain from using exploits on our servers.
The reason that many people enjoy playing on our servers is because we play fairly and tactically, if we allowed this sort of stuff it would no longer be enjoyable.

Ok Right well there is a way of doing normal jump Please can i meet up with you guys today at 1.00pm in afternoon and i will show u how it is used in normal jump its off the bridge u jump off bridge onto a ledge. i will show u guys if u do come on plz do i will explain all of it
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Penfold on November 22, 2009, 10:19:57 AM
:frusty:

Todd, it's really not that complicated. You've read the reactions and you can see how it's viewed. It's now down to you whether you play on our servers within the rules we set or not.

There is a marked differed between getting to a 'git' spot using skill jumping from a building to a wall then up again (such as on Ambush) and using a flaw in the fabric in the game (such as your spiderman adventuring).

If you can't apply some common sense in what is or isn't in the 'spirit' of the game then your relationship with dMw will be shortlived. It's your call.
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Post by: BrotherTobious on November 22, 2009, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: todd;297022Ok Right well there is a way of doing normal jump Please can i meet up with you guys today at 1.00pm in afternoon and i will show u how it is used in normal jump its off the bridge u jump off bridge onto a ledge. i will show u guys if u do come on plz do i will explain all of it

We dont want to know, we dont play like that
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Doorman on November 22, 2009, 12:59:53 PM
See? I told you it would get interesting. :D
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Post by: DarkAngel on November 22, 2009, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Doorman;297042See? I told you it would get interesting. :D

Nah it was boring...
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Post by: Doorman on November 22, 2009, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: DarkAngel;297045Nah it was boring...
Until you've sat through an evening of Henry Purcell's choral work you have absolutely NO IDEA of the meaning of boring. :sideways:
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: BrotherTobious on November 22, 2009, 03:08:31 PM
Quote from: Doorman;297052Until you've sat through an evening of Henry Purcell's choral work you have absolutely NO IDEA of the meaning of boring. :sideways:


LMAO:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Luminance on November 22, 2009, 06:21:58 PM
Quote from: Doorman;297052Until you've sat through an evening of Henry Purcell's choral work you have absolutely NO IDEA of the meaning of boring. :sideways:

I have no idea what Henry Purcell's choral work is, but I lol'ed :D

I wonder what comes next, maybe he wants to teach us how to fool punkbuster :doh:
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: BrotherTobious on November 22, 2009, 08:43:06 PM
No it will be that secret art of jumping round corners, whilst speaking the lost language of l33t!!!
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Post by: Soon Jung on November 22, 2009, 11:41:12 PM
Quote from: Luminance;297081I wonder what comes next, maybe he wants to teach us how to fool punkbuster :doh:

Quote from: BrotherTobious;297091No it will be that secret art of jumping round corners, whilst speaking the lost language of l33t!!!

This is not constructive feedback, and not within the forum acceptable use policy. Please refrain from such comments.

Quote from: FAUP;30310The community is *inclusive*. This means that you should not post anything that is likely to offend other members of the forums.

That said, Todd, you are using cheats and exploits and it IS NOT ALLOWED: If you continue to use it, you will not last in the dMw community. You will be banned.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Tutonic on November 23, 2009, 10:44:50 AM
Move along now, nothing to see here...
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: BrotherTobious on November 23, 2009, 11:52:06 AM
I Appoligise if I caused any offense.
Title: Elevator Please Read .. !
Post by: Penfold on November 23, 2009, 12:03:34 PM
Indeed. :)

Bear in mind that Todd is one of (if not the) youngest member we have (aged a remarkably youthful 11) so perhaps a guiding hand rather than a big stick may be more appropriate in this case.

Anyway, moving on I'm sure he now knows the dMw way and our views on such tactics so I hope that's an end to it.