Has anyone had a dabble with this as yet?
I regularly back up 100gb+ of data and can't wait for it if it's as good as all reports.
If anyone's had a go and can help me set this up that would be great. I presume I need a USB3 PCI card / PCMCIA card and special cable. Anyone found any good enclosures ?
I presume that's all I need is it? I mean it doesn't need a mobo upgrade for instance??
Thanks
PEN
Here you go, all you need to know :)
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2009/12/18/first-look/1
I'd look at eSATA, it's similar sort of speeds and you might find some of your computers already support it. Plus there are plenty of drives on the market with it. First one I found in a 5 sec search (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176516)
I know my mobo supports it and it's fairly old (supports Core2 and Q cpus not i5 or i7).
Saves getting new hardware.
What is the actual difference between SATA and eSATA? I thought SATA was hotswappable anyway, so the only difference as far as I can tell is simply that the connector is placed on the motherboard back panel so as to be accessible without opening the case. My last mobo even came with an 'eSATA adaptor' which appeared to be just a very very simple PCB that had a molex -> 2x SATA power convertor in the middle and 2 SATA passthroughs, one on each side. It was on a plate to fit into an expansion slot.
Thanks.
I have sata drives but am not sure about esata??
Anyway here is an exciting picture of my mobo
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/mpppen/mobo.jpg)
and here is a pic of the usb 3 card
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/mpppen/1-2.jpg)
Am I right in thinking that the slots on my mobo are not the right ones for this?
If not, how do I check if I can do esata?
:g:
Thanks
They're standard PCI slots. The USB card you've pictured is a PCI-E card.
As for the eSATA on your mobo, what make/model is it? I would hazard a guess to say that it is not eSATA capable due to the fact that it has PCI slots which indicates it's quite a distinguished motherboard (polite way of saying old, very old :narnar: )
I got one of these last time I put an order in at scan and its brilliant if you are upgrading hard drives or making backups every week etc. Just leave it plugged in on the desk and put in the drive you want and turn on. http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Sharkoon-SATA-Quick-Port-PRO-%2825-35-SATA-HDD-to-your-PC-Via-USB-eSATA%29-plus-Card-reader-plus-2xUSB-H (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Sharkoon-SATA-Quick-Port-PRO-%2825-35-SATA-HDD-to-your-PC-Via-USB-eSATA%29-plus-Card-reader-plus-2xUSB-H)
Penfold what motherboard have you got and I can look if you have esata or not. Or you can look at the back of your pc and see if you have what looks like a sata port. esata is basically external sata. So you are getting the same speed as you would do if it was in your pc ;)
Quote from: Gandalf;300689They're standard PCI slots. The USB card you've pictured is a PCI-E card.
As for the eSATA on your mobo, what make/model is it? I would hazard a guess to say that it is not eSATA capable due to the fact that it has PCI slots which indicates it's quite a distinguished motherboard (polite way of saying old, very old :narnar: )
Lol I wasn't going to say that, but yeah. Chances are slim to non :roflmao:
lol ok well this is it.
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it's my work machine so I'm not too worried about the gaming side of it.
Umm
I think perhaps my PCI-E slot is being used by the geforce 9600 gt card??
Can I just plug a cable into where it says 3, 4 or 5 on my mobo (pic above) and lead that to the sata dock for example????
Yeah I would at least consider eSATA since it is a good way to transfer data externally with little hassle, and the tech is here right now and cheap.
Ok I know I'm dumb but that does mean I just need to get this:
(http://base1.googlehosted.com/base_media?q=FroogleCatalog_CNETI527127.jpg&size=20&dhm=5ef569b1&hl=en)
and it's plugs into here on my mobo?
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/mpppen/mobo-1.jpg)
and then I just need a esata enclosure?
thanks
eSATA has higher voltage outputs to support longer cables. You could try Link (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141095) or that brackert and see if it works. The protocol is identical (if wiki is to be believed)
Unfortunately your motherboard is quite old so can't be sure if it supports it or not. If you had a second PCI-E slot you'd most likely have it included, but if it didn't there are PCI-E cards for eSATA too.
I think to get faster speeds Link (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149273) plus the cable I mentioned would be a cheap way of testing still supporting USB 2.0 to fall back on if it doesn't work.
Ok thanks.
The one thing I don't understand is about my mobo supporting it. Surely if I'm plugging the cable in the slot as shown above it will read it like a normal HDD??
Quote from: Penfold;300720Ok thanks.
The one thing I don't understand is about my mobo supporting it. Surely if I'm plugging the cable in the slot as shown above it will read it like a normal HDD??
eSATA uses higher voltage and can pick up lower threshold signals, if your mobo can't put that out it might not reach the end of the cable with enough juice to be detected, or a signal might attenuate too much for it to read as eSATA cables are upto 2m long.
It's like if you use an Ethernet cable that is too long it doesn't support gigabit speeds anymore, only SATA can't drop back to 10/100 mode so just wouldn't work.
My guess is it should work, but if it doesn't that is why.
OK that makes sense.
Thanks for the lesson all :D