Dead Men Walking

So its here and beta's are released.

Fireplay.net did have some keys they have now all gone.

Fileplanet have keys for north american subscribers only.

Remaining keys seem to be for pre purchaser's only.

We already have a topic on the game in the its a game but hasn't got a topic but as its finally here and its a possible dmw game we can sit down and start doing the math.

So is it a game we could play and do we need a ranked server?

Can beta testers for now please record your name and your thoughts on the game.

(potentially i would like the other topic merged with this one. The latter part with regard to the actual beta testers experiences if possible please)

Is there a server client that we can get hold of or is this beta for official servers only. Anyone scouted unofficial servers which are ranked/ unranked?


Collection of beta Nicks:
Kreg = Duck
Lexander = Lexander
Tutonic = Tutonic
lionheart = ??
GhostMjr = GhostMjr
spudgun55 = ??
[BIG]magnus = ??
Dewey = ??
T-Bag = mortensent

this game is going to rock..

its absolutely awsome..

Name: Duck
Current level 3 soon to be 4

/Jealous  :sad:

At the moment it has few bugs but after those are fixed the game will be supreme. And what is to be considered is that the final game has a hard core mode, so no sights etc. And also these tactical squad modes. And this beta tells us that Dice really wants to make a good product and they are listening people, after ps3 beta there was a huge fix list and hopefully too after this.

Testing continues today.

Name: Lexander


ps. hopefully the friends list works today :)

Right, i have just bought it on steam.

Will begin testing today anyone up for a game later this evening with a few newbies?

If so post here and we will arrange something.

Just installed.

Anyone jumping in set your game name to your normal player name then choose the usual -=[dMw]=- for clantag

Can't wait to play later on :D

It's very buggy, and the servers were getting smashed last night, but my god its fun.

The destructable terrain/scenery gives you so many options. Sniper holed up in a building causing you problems? Flatten the building with C4 :devil:

I'll be on this evening.

Name: Tutonic

or just run a tank straight through the building xD

You total buggers. You've made me buy this now. See you on the battlefied.

Man i am so tempted, although spent too much this month :sideways:.

Thanks for setting this up Ghosty :thumb:

Can I ask that the people giving their comments give some weight to the question of whether this game will be a good fit for our ethos?

I'll see if I can find out about the dedicated server issues.

The game is can be adopted to our style of play without problems, its highly tactical..

Servers are rented at EA approved hosts, hence no dedis for smaller gaming communities

THis is from earlier post about servers.

QuoteDedicated Server FAQ for Battlefield Bad Company 2 PC

Will there be an option to have my own dedicated server? Yes, DICE will have trusted partners with datacenters worldwide that you'll be able to rent a dedicated server from ensuring you always have a quality server in your region.

How much will it cost to rent a dedicated server for Battlefield Bad Company 2? Because these are offered by the trusted partners we can't answer that, but they will be priced fairly according to your market.

Can I control my server with remote admin tools? Yes, you will have the ability manage your server via remote admin tools allowing you to manage your server, your way.

Is there the option to give my server a custom name? Yes, you'll be able to name your server what you like.

Will I be able to make a reserve list for my server? Yes, you will be able to reserve a limited amount of space on your server when public for whom ever you like.

Am I able to host a private match? Yes, you will be able to password protect your server.

Is there a client server browser to view server lists? Yes, clients on the PC will have a full server's browser to select the server they'd like to play on.

Can I earn ranks and rewards on my rented server?  Yes!  You will be able to run your server as Ranked allowing you to still earn unlocks, rewards, and host a server for all to enjoy.

Are PC clients going to be match made to servers? No, PC clients will use their server browser and filter options.

Will you have an anti-cheat requirement? Yes, all dedicated servers and clients on PC will be required to have the anti-cheat software running at all times.
 

There should be coming more info about the renting in the future.

Edit: This is what I found http://gameservers.multiplay.co.uk/game-servers/bad-company-2/

Kreg / Lex

Thanks for the info guys. At this stage I'm not hopeful we can support a game where we have to pay for an externally hosted server. Having said that, as more and more releases are abandoning the idea of dedicated servers it's an area that we simply have to revisit to examine all avenues open to us. :g:

Perhaps the question is: how hard/expensive is it to become a 'trusted partner'? Maybe we can host our own ranked server?

I know it's a long shot but it's worth finding out.

Also depends how many are interested, if theres enough and it was only Ã,£2 a month each, I'd be up for that.

Which poses a really interesting question, for which I apologise...

What if..
you like it, you pay for it at Ã,£2 (for arguments sake) and then after 6 months your circumstances change or you decide yoiu don't like it any more. Do we pull the server?

/devils advocate.

On the game side, I've watched the videos, is it as run and gun as it appears?

I suppose it depends on the length of lease, if it is a monthly thing then should be fine, we pull it when interest wains. If quarterly then people would be expected to pay up front I guess.

I think we'd have to know the cost of dedicated servers and if out current host will be one of the trusted partners before making a decision one way or another.

I haven't played the beta yet. Though I will be buying the game. I think there will be enough of us with the game to make a community and the gameplay seems like it would fit our style. If both of these are the case I believe it is a matter of seeing if we think the cost is worthwhile rather than any other concerns.

It's a case of wait and see. I'll be joining in with the beta nearer release date. At the moment I have Mass Effect 2 to play and AvP later in the month.

as i earlier stated, currently most run around and shoot, but then again, we only got the Rush gameplay mode available in the beta, where you somewhat need to rush the enemy, but more tactics styles will also be available in hte release.
But that said, RUSH mode can without much issues be adjusted to our wishes.. camping the oppositions team is kinda hard as you cant move near it :P

Currently awaiting a call from EA denmark, about the EA trusted partner issue, should have more news tonight

So to get this game to run in the community we have to rent a server?

That's rather awkward as i thought we would be able to create our own like with BF2.

We have a dedicated server so why can't we just run a ranked one from ours or am i missing the point here?

We need a firm confirmation that unranked free servers will not be supported at all before we take the plunge with paid servers, not that i don't mind paying its up to you lot. Do you want to pay or would you prefer a free no thrills server?

Also is there a server client about or is that restricted to trusted partners?

Also how will lans work then will we need to use a dedicated server to use that? Or will a lan be an unranked server?

I wouldn't overly worry about the LAN and its impact. If it's more practical to not have it at the LAN it's no biggie. Better to concentrate on the 99% usage which would be in our normal game play.

Nice work chaps :)

Quote from: Penfold;302914I wouldn't overly worry about the LAN and its impact. If it's more practical to not have it at the LAN it's no biggie. Better to concentrate on the 99% usage which would be in our normal game play.

Nice work chaps :)

Thanks for your response Pen.

I can't find a LAN option in the beta, hopefully the gold version will :(

Quote from: GhostMjr;302911So to get this game to run in the community we have to rent a server?

That's rather awkward as i thought we would be able to create our own like with BF2.

We have a dedicated server so why can't we just run a ranked one from ours or am i missing the point here?

We need a firm confirmation that unranked free servers will not be supported at all before we take the plunge with paid servers, not that i don't mind paying its up to you lot. Do you want to pay or would you prefer a free no thrills server?

Also is there a server client about or is that restricted to trusted partners?

Also how will lans work then will we need to use a dedicated server to use that? Or will a lan be an unranked server?

If you had read T-bags post carefully, you would have noticed

QuoteWill there be an option to have my own dedicated server? Yes, DICE will have trusted partners with datacenters worldwide that you'll be able to rent a dedicated server from ensuring you always have a quality server in your region.

About the unranked, no EA wont be releasing any server software publicly as previous stated, if you want a unranked server, rent one and set it as unranked.

looks like a another game too miss, the lack of server support is becoming a worry

just ordered from steam with beta :thumbsup:

i have been giving this a good play and to be honest its needs tons of work, i know its a beta but this game i would say is a long way off, graphics are to be honest quite poor, even with settings on max, sound is awful to much background noise,  shooting is a bit of pot luck, mmmm i hope it improves enough to make it a good game, feels and plays like a console game, but it is a Beta.:g:

Had a couple of games and it has great potential but I agree with some of the comments from spudgun, and *** is NO PRONE all about, hope this is just a beta thing cos snipings bloody hard when kneeling.

i think there is a medal/pin mentioning prone, so i think ill be in the final

damn a slow lvl day, managed lvl 8 tho :D and nearly everything unlocked exept medic stuff

Typical that I would break my arm just as this is about to be released.

It'd be a shame if we couldn't have a server, if the game is good enough I'm sure people would be willing to chip in a couple of quid?

As said the game has potential, and Dice fixed a lot after ps3 beta so hoping for the best. Also this is not a simulation, I don't think BF games have ever been that. They are more of an "arcadish" run and gun and this does it well. I think one thing it has is the war feeling, there is always something happening and you don't need to run a marathon to find battle and then get one shotted.  
  Also the lack of own dedis is worrying, why are all the publishers doing this ?

GM, from my reading it was announced in Oct 09 that they would support a dedicated server client (allowing us to run our own server, on our own hardware), but they have since backed away form that and now said that you will only be able to run a dedicated server from one of their trusted partners (so it;s a slightly disingenuous use of the term dedicated server).  The relaxation that still exists afaiaa is that the rented-not-from-them server can still be ranked, whereas a dedicated server client last time around could not be ranked.

So, at the moment it looks like we will not have the ability to run our own server on our own hardware.  So I guess we'll need to assess the rented dedicated server options and as Oldbloke said that's a tricky route to go down if all the games end up like that.

GM, you also mentioned at the start of the thread you wanted something else merged with this.  Can you send me a PM please with what you would like done (inc links to topics/threads etc) and I'll see what we can do.

Thanks.

from what ive been able to find out so far, that there is no specific unranken and ranked server client, its the same client, but merely a setting to make the server unranked..

Quote from: lionheart;302897Also depends how many are interested, if theres enough and it was only Ã,£2 a month each, I'd be up for that.

If we like the game and we decide to support it then you'll not be asked to pay Ã,£2 per month.

okay tracer gun isnt as OP as i would have thought

for smoother game play turn bloom off, makes very little diff to the look of the game but does seem to help fps (lag),  some have said runninhg DX9 also helps, worth a try:g:

Are the bugs/glitches being ironed out in beta and what's the gameplay like?  That last bit may be difficult to answer as I understand you do not have the Coop modes etc open to you in Beta?

Quote from: TeaLeaf;303062Are the bugs/glitches being ironed out in beta and what's the gameplay like?  That last bit may be difficult to answer as I understand you do not have the Coop modes etc open to you in Beta?

We got the first update in 24h after the release fixing some lag and disconnect issues. After that it has been pretty quiet but people are reporting a lot and what I have read from  twitter messages of different DEV's they are really listening people.
And the beta has only one map and one game mode and that is the Rush, so it is basically another party attacks and other defends. Nice thing is that when you loose your 2 spots that you need to defend, the area expands and you back up to next base and try to defend that. So the map is pretty large, the total amount "bases" you need to defend is 4 after that you loose, or if the attacking party runs out of reinforcements, they loose. And I love the vehicles, they bring so much more into the game. In the beta you have a tank, 2 different kind of light armored vehicles, 2 different choppers and ATV. Best thing is that you can't use those all in once, they come to available in different parts of the map.

The gameplay is very good, it runs smooth and by camping you don't win. So a good team is essential. While there are bugs, I haven't noticed anything game breaking yet.

I really like the 'rush' game mode so far, it's totally epic. The way it suddnely expands the map behind/infront of you (depending on which side you're on) is incredibly well scripted.

For example, if you manage to capture the second pair of objectives an A10 tankbuster flies in and blows up a barricade to let you access the next area - great stuff.

It also manages to make teamwork pay off quite nicely. You get extra points/XP for doing actions that benefit your teammates, and even more if you do things that help out your current squad. There's always been a mechanic nearby to help patch up my b0rked APC.

The network performance has certainly increased after the patch they deployed the other day. There's still a few bugs but I would expect them to get squashed in time for release - nothing game-breaking so far.

People with spotify:  http://open.spotify.com/album/4veeYol6QrIG89Txt6wGNF :D

Quote from: TeaLeaf;303062Are the bugs/glitches being ironed out in beta and what's the gameplay like?  That last bit may be difficult to answer as I understand you do not have the Coop modes etc open to you in Beta?

Kreg has mentioned the parachute failing to open which i am not sure might be a bug or the fact i forgot to press the key to deploy it.

For those thinking of purchasing this game it is a minimalistic bf2 experience.

By this i mean it has all the bf2 workings but with very few menu's and i wouldn't say watered down more so concentrated orange juice rather than orange squash.

We only have the one map and scenario they might bring further maps out for the beta or as this mode is the one they feel needs the *most* work thats why they have chose it.

It feels like a hardcore mode of cod as such.

I do like it but we need to get everyone together this weekend for a session which i will organise shortly.

Overall it has alot to offer and as we like the battlefield series its worth a shot.

Quote from: GhostMjr;303084For those thinking of purchasing this game it is a minimalistic bf2 experience.

By this i mean it has all the bf2 workings but with very few menu's and i wouldn't say watered down more so concentrated orange juice rather than orange squash.

We only have the one map and scenario they might bring further maps out for the beta or as this mode is the one they feel needs the *most* work thats why they have chose it.

It feels like a hardcore mode of cod as such.

I do like it but we need to get everyone together this weekend for a session which i will organise shortly.

Overall it has alot to offer and as we like the battlefield series its worth a shot.

I'm looking forward to getting the game when it comes out.
I didn't get a beta test with my purchase via our affiliate amazon site, so i won't be joining you on the weekend.:sad:

Quote from: GhostMjr;303084Kreg has mentioned the parachute failing to open which i am not sure might be a bug or the fact i forgot to press the key to deploy it.

nah i found out that its the anti air flak shitkicking my parachute :P just gotta remember to redeploy it ;)

The first patch solved a lot of issues network wise, and there is a lot of graphics optimization to come.

the vehicles work really well, they can be utterly insane in the hands of a good crew and a repair guy, but then again, a good timed assault can bring down a tank just as easy ;)

weapons seem really well balanced tbh, i was sure the tracer gun would be op agaisnt choppers, but you ever tried hitting a bird with a rock, takes a fair bit of time to learn :D

and yeah the sound and looks when those A-10 thunderbolt II hammer down with each base captured is awsome :D

Quote from: kregoron;303112The first patch solved a lot of issues network wise, and there is a lot of graphics optimization to come.

What I read from the dev twitter messages, we are playing 6weeks old build and the textures will get better in the full game. Also they are optimizing it a lot atm.

QuoteThe 'high' texture detail level isn't implemented in #BFBC PC beta. Is in the final release so will be a bit sharper

Quotebattlefields pre destruction = prone, BFs post destruction (BFBC1 and 2) no prone. Gameplay is fire and maneuver, not drop and hide

So there won't be prone, but tbh that explanation is pretty true. The game is supposed to be fast paced war, not camping.

Edit: The guys to follow on twitter are: locust9, Demize99, repi, officialBFBC2

QuoteQ: What do you call 4 Recon on the hill in Port Valdez? a: The Losing Team

:D:D

From what's being said it looks like this is one to keep en eye on if the gameplay pans out, especially if the extra modes give it even more dMw scope.

from a tactical perspective the Squad rush mode seems really interesting for a tactical community like us

Quote from: kregoron;303196from a tactical perspective the Squad rush mode seems really interesting for a tactical community like us

After playing the beta I believe that this game can be played tactically on every game mode with right set of rules and people. And those Squad-modes make this ideal for competetive gaming and for uber tactical gameplay.

This was just tweeted:

QuoteOfficialBFBC2
 
Are you a small BF community site or competitive team with a website? If yes & have BFBC2 in your site design let us know for 8 Beta Keys.

Might help someone.

Quoterepi
 
Great #BFBC2 PC Beta impressions from PC-only site Rock, Paper, Shotgun: http://bit.ly/bscz8q

Nice article.

The Ranked server files have and will always only be available to certain companies and I can 100% guarantee that we would not get put on that list.  There will probably be 3 - 4 companies that get recommended server provider status.  The server will most likely be around 85p - Ã,£1.50 a slot.  BF2 and 2142 was exactly the same you had to go RSP to get ranked.  At RIP I tried to get our dedi provider 2142 status with the help of someone who worked on bf2 at ea with dice and dice still said no even though he was a bf2 provider.  It is all done to try and keep game hackers at bay.  Most of the hacks for bf2/ 2142 where possible due to the hackers getting there hands on the server code and punkbuster was just an after thought.

As for the game the potential is huge.  Team/ squad play is a must! and so much more enjoyable.  Yes the game is a bit buggy but it is the beta.  After the patch most of the lag issues have gone.  At the moment the game is not well optimised and not great driver support but I am sure it will get there.  This surely is the next big game I just hope the full release is as good.

I have asked someone who works at ea on the BFBC2 project to try and get some info about what sort of admin we will be able to get over the dedi servers.  The last time we had BFCC which was a pain to set up properly but was a great program.  It did take a good bit of time for that to come out after the release of the game though.  I am sure multiplay and killer creations will have there own admin program as they did for bf2/ 2142 that allows kick, ban, warn etc.  I also think they allowed the setup for a reserved slot for members but can't be 100% sure on that as we had 4 of our own dedi boxes so had BFCC on them.  I also made an informal enquiry to the idea of price per slot :D

I agree we're not going to see dedi server files available to us to run on our own hardware, but we're hopeful we still might be able to support the game if there is sufficient interest in the community for it.  If that means providing a server via an 'authorised partner' then that'll be the way we have to go.

Any admin info for the new servers would be handy to know though, so thanks for seeking that info for us!

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/02/05/remote-administration-interface-for-bfbc2-pc.aspx

As you are too lazy to click links here it is :):

QuoteRemote Administration interface for BFBC2 PC

Hi again!

A lot of people are asking about server administration. What's up there?

A little background
Since the Frostbite engine had not yet been used for any PC titles, there had been no need for advanced server administration tools. BFBC2 PC changed that however.
There was a sort of "server console" thing, but it was intended for developer use only. Something easier to use and more stable was necessary when we came closer to release it to the PC users.


So what are we doing?
We are creating a separate command console, which is stable, and where the commands will not change. This will be the Remote Administration interface for BFBC2 PC. BF2 console commands have been a good source of inspiration :)
The Remote Administration interface is accessible over a network port on the game server.

While we ensure that there is a solid administration interface, we are not creating any fancy tools. Why not? Because the community will do a much better job! RSPs have already been using the interface for weeks, and several people are working on user friendly tools. We will continue to improve the protocol with functions that are necessary to make good tools.


When Closed Beta Server R5 (yes, we have already patched the game servers 3 times. I love our new patching system) is released, the RSPs will be allowed to expose the Remote Administration interface on their servers to the public... and we will publish the FULL protocol specification. You have my word on that.

 

Stay tuned.

Sweet PC footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZi_gdMttw

I got the first reply back form contact at ea.  He has forwarded the email to the cheif designer for bfbc2 at dice!!!! So will wait and see what we get back.  So as lex has posted we will get more or less the same sort of control we had via rcon for bf2 so apart from changing files on the box we should have full control over how the server is run.  The advance and secure nature of rush despite it's very frantic fighting at times is what DMW is all about!! Team Team Team or die.

Having played this now I think it could very easily be a game we can take on to our style of play. With 4-6 Players a side (which hopefully we can manage with just DMW players) I can see squads working out nice and tactically.
I'm still playing with basic kit and I can see how important it is to pick the right tools for the job.

My only fear is not enough adoption of the game and having the fullest it get be about 6 people total as that might not be very fun. Though I suppose with Squad Rush it might work.

QuoteDemize99
 
Watchin shout casts of BFBC2 Beta Clan Matches. Thinking maybe to allow servers to force planted charges in Rush. Thoughts Competitors?

Demize99 = Alan Kertz = Senior Designer Battlefield: Bad Company 2

Looks pretty good that they are thinking about the competitive playing.

Got and email back form the QA manager at dice regarding a things I had asked him.  Still no word yet on the amount of control we will have via any form of rcon/ adin panel commands.  There will be NO prone the end!! in this game apparently the prone troll has been taken outside and shot! :lmfao: The price for a 32 man server will be from Ã,£25.60 pm that is from multiplay and will include and admin panel of some sort. I assume it will be similar to the one that I used with 2142 which is adequate.  I have asked a freind who will also be able to have ranked servers to try and get a price for me.  It will then be upto the powers that be to decide if it is something for the community.  The game really does need a full server to be at it's best.  A minimum of 8 v 8 or two squads to cover both bases or it just becomes a game of run between two places.  He also sent me this website address to have a look at the equipment that will be in the full game.

http://ultimateprestige.com/

Cheers

magnus

Quote from: '[BIGmagnus;303637']Got and email back form the QA manager at dice regarding a things I had asked him.  Still no word yet on the amount of control we will have via any form of rcon/ adin panel commands.  There will be NO prone the end!! in this game apparently the prone troll has been taken outside and shot! :lmfao: The price for a 32 man server will be from Ã,£25.60 pm that is from multiplay and will include and admin panel of some sort. I assume it will be similar to the one that I used with 2142 which is adequate.  I have asked a freind who will also be able to have ranked servers to try and get a price for me.  It will then be upto the powers that be to decide if it is something for the community.  The game really does need a full server to be at it's best.  A minimum of 8 v 8 or two squads to cover both bases or it just becomes a game of run between two places.  He also sent me this website address to have a look at the equipment that will be in the full game.

http://ultimateprestige.com/

Cheers

magnus

Can you ask him to confirm whether the servers will only be available from trusted partners?

Basically will he allow non ranked free servers or is that a "definite" no?

i phoned EA's nordic office in stockholm today, to get some clarification on the EA trusted partner requirements. Sadly the EA partner manager wasnt in so i had to talk with one of his assistants, but ill give him another ring tomorrow.

and the most straight answer i could get from em so far was, that they were pretty much the same as the ones listed when they announced BF 2


Its not as hard as i thought becoming a EA Trusted server partner as i thought.

so if i remember correct its something like 640 slots on a minimum of 10 servers, for each 10 unranked you gotta host 1 ranked..
The servers must follow certain rules on settings, and EA will check that each server is following the presets, and must have access to the server at any time they see fit.
the contract is signed for 1 year at a time..
and you RENT the license.

I got the list somewhere at hope and will have a look for it when i get back home.

Quote from: GhostMjr;303643Can you ask him to confirm whether the servers will only be available from trusted partners?

Basically will he allow non ranked free servers or is that a "definite" no?

I have sent an email asking for a def yes/ no.  He has already said not to start with.  I am not entirely sure what running a non ranked server is going to do to encourage new members to dmw.  From memory the bf2 server being un-ranked was never busy.  At RIP we could fill 4 64 man servers at one point.  I know that this meant alot of admin time but it was worth it in the long run.  You end up with lots of people who play by the rules.  If you trust your admins you get rid of people who are just being an arse not just for breaking rules.  

As for the EA trusted partner the spec that they put out is not just the only spec they go on.  Beleive me when I say i know.  The guy we tried to get 2142 for has over 300 boxes!!! in one of Londons largest server centres (Redbridge or burn can't remember)  full 100 MB to everybox and even with help form the EA side we still could not get him on the 2142 list.  When they went from BF2 > 2142 they cut the list form 15 to 3!!  As I posted before Multiplay will be on and looking at the servers in the beta rackage and killer creations will also be putting servers up.

Not sure if all can access this but worth checking out:

http://www.ultimateprestige.com/

Magnus outlines a point we're well aware of, non-ranked servers.  It looks like that for this to be supported we would need to rent a ranked server from one of the few trusted partners.  This itself is not a problem if the support for the game is there.  We'll be making a decision on this game somewhere about 20th February so it would helpful for any other questions or statements of support to be in & answered by then.

As we know the other advantage with running a ranked box that is well admined is that it encourages players to return to your server. I remember during my time with RIP that this provided a constant steady influx of mature players who we could cherry pick and who fitted into our way of playing the game. As a recruitment tool a well admined ranked server for a popular game (which undoubtedly it will be) really can't be beaten.

Perhaps the cost will be offset by these new players helping fund the cost of the server.

I played the game on my own over the last few weeks and it was ok nothing more than that and in truth I didn't understand a some key nuances of the game. However, I played the game last night with Magnus and Paddy (who filled in my knowledge gap) and it was a LOT of fun, in fact the most fun I've had in a long time with a real sense of achievement when winning a round - its hard work but fun.

The emphasis is on teamwork, from squad level right across your side as a whole and its fundamental to winning in the format currently running in beta - its that simple.

Obviously its a beta with many functions not working and some strange quirks (some of the guns need balancing I feel) but its already robust (never once crashed during the time I've played it), and I've only experienced lag once when I was playing on a US server.

My pc is a medium system (Q6600, 1 year old graphics card) and it runs well on 1900 x 1200 at medium settings.

In short, I'm really looking forward to playing this with dMw, its less gun and run than COD but not as hardcore as Armed Assault - basically if you liked BF2 (and I know many of us did) you'll like this too.

I'll keep spamming this thread hoping that at least someone is interested :)

Sound world in this game is just <3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cFgWKEYC2g

As Dewey has said last night was the first time that we had managed to get 3 of us on at once to play this.  The game was transformed.  I have really enjoyed it until now but wow what an improvement.  It took us a little while to get going due to the fact we have not really played any squad games for a couple of years.

After about half an hour we started to get that sqaud work and mentality going again we used to have in bf2 (all we need is BIG ranger to get on for the quartet).  We started to automatically tell each other where we are going who is covering who stay alive to spawn etc. J ust fantastic communication.  

Needless to say once this sort of team work started results started to show in getting or defending the objectives and the scores.

For anyone who has not tried this I would recommend giving it a bash.  Remember it is a beta so there still some issues performance is far from optimised but I am sure it will get there in final release.  Even if you borrow an account to give it a try before ordering it.

This is the first time in years I have had to drag myself from the computer when I could have happily carried on.  I dare say if it had been Friday night I would still be there now. :yahoo:

p.s. I have no idea how it will effect my performance but will try and get a fraps movie at my res of 5760 x 1080 and put on you tube something else I have never done!!

You see I thought that was an interesting post Magnus until you had to go and mention your 5760 x 1080 (3 monitor) setup - ya big head!  :D

Quote from: '[BIGmagnus;303807']As Dewey has said last night was the first time that we had managed to get 3 of us on at once to play this.  The game was transformed.  I have really enjoyed it until now but wow what an improvement.  It took us a little while to get going due to the fact we have not really played any squad games for a couple of years.

After about half an hour we started to get that sqaud work and mentality going again we used to have in bf2 (all we need is BIG ranger to get on for the quartet).  We started to automatically tell each other where we are going who is covering who stay alive to spawn etc. J ust fantastic communication.  

Needless to say once this sort of team work started results started to show in getting or defending the objectives and the scores.

For anyone who has not tried this I would recommend giving it a bash.  Remember it is a beta so there still some issues performance is far from optimised but I am sure it will get there in final release.  Even if you borrow an account to give it a try before ordering it.

This is the first time in years I have had to drag myself from the computer when I could have happily carried on.  I dare say if it had been Friday night I would still be there now. :yahoo:

p.s. I have no idea how it will effect my performance but will try and get a fraps movie at my res of 5760 x 1080 and put on you tube something else I have never done!!

my in game name in the beta is mortensent

Feel free to add me anyone. I quite fancy playing with other people, this game seems like theres a whole pile of tactics hidden under the surface of an immensely fun shooter.

Collection of beta Nicks:
Kreg = Duck
Lexander = Lexander
Tutonic = Tutonic
lionheart = ??
GhostMjr = ??
spudgun55 = ??
[BIG]magnus = ??
Dewey = ??
T-Bag = mortensent

cheers for all the input comments and general interest.

Thanks Lex for the idea to get a full list of everyone's name down.

I am looking at a 7pm start for our collective beta test this sunday 13th Feb.

Who is interested?

TL, can the decision be made on 21st Feb only because i would like two solid weekends where we can get people to get into the game and hopefully all play on the same  server.

My name is below chaps.
 

Quote from: Lexander;303866Collection of beta Nicks:

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Kreg = Duck
Lexander = Lexander
Tutonic = Tutonic
lionheart = ??
GhostMjr = ??
spudgun55 = ??
[BIG]magnus = ??
Dewey = [BIG]Dewey
T-Bag = mortensent

I can make it but not till 8pm
 

Quote from: GhostMjr;303879cheers for all the input comments and general interest.
 
Thanks Lex for the idea to get a full list of everyone's name down.
 
I am looking at a 7pm start for our collective beta test this sunday 13th Feb.
 
Who is interested?
 
TL, can the decision be made on 21st Feb only because i would like two solid weekends where we can get people to get into the game and hopefully all play on the same server.

Count me in for some playtesting.

You can find me under 'Tutonic'.

Can I suggest TeamSpeak in place of in-game comms?

Quote from: GhostMjr;303879I am looking at a 7pm start for our collective beta test this sunday 13th Feb.

Who is interested?

I'm in and as Tutonic said, TS would be better for comms.

Ok, I've sent everyone on that list a friend request, but as I found out with Ghost it doesn't seem to send the requests through very well. He added me I got nothing through, I added him and he showed up on my list shortly after. So if you don't see a request that might be worth trying.

Quote from: T-Bag;303916Ok, I've sent everyone on that list a friend request, but as I found out with Ghost it doesn't seem to send the requests through very well. He added me I got nothing through, I added him and he showed up on my list shortly after. So if you don't see a request that might be worth trying.

The friends list is very bad atm, and should be fixed on the final version.

gameid: BIG-Paddy

What everyone else said.

I can't wait for the full game and beta testing so widely should mean that most bugs are gone when it is live. If the community decides not to rent a server then I am going to get my own - the shaver company has apparently already gone.

woot.. downloading now

Update:
Kreg = Duck
Lexander = Lexander
Tutonic = Tutonic
lionheart = ??
GhostMjr = GhostMjr
spudgun55 = spudgun55  (I assume)
[BIG]magnus = ??
Dewey = [BIG]Dewey
T-Bag = mortensent
big-paddy = BIG-Paddy
Ninja_Freak = ??


ninja, me, tbag and lex are on a server testing now

Message me if interested.

Quote from: GhostMjr;303879I am looking at a 7pm start for our collective beta test this sunday 13th Feb.

Sunday the 13th feb is not in this year m8 ;)

i sunday is valentines day so im forced to spend time with the missus

Quote from: kregoron;303931Sunday the 13th feb is not in this year m8 ;)

i sunday is valentines day so im forced to spend time with the missus

There is the key word :lmfao:

Quote from: Lexander;303933There is the key word :lmfao:

indeed ;)

so is it tonight saturday the 13th, or sunday the 14th?

I meant Sunday the 14th.

T-bag, me, absolute hype and big paddy playing now and are on teamspeak

Give me a shout

That was masses of fun. I think with 2 squads on a team it would be EVEN MORE fun.

If anyone is thinking of playing a game just post here and hopefully something will get set up. Team speak works well.

Well a solid 2 hours of good games there all using team speak

It has alot of promise and hopefully more people will purchase the game to join in trying tomorrow night!

:D

Yup, I've spent 14.2 hours on just the beta. 1 Map and game type. In terms of fun it's almost paid for itself and it's not even released yet.

Is it the poor quality of the in-game comms that is making you resort to TS?

Quote from: OldBloke;303954Is it the poor quality of the in-game comms that is making you resort to TS?

It's finding a server. The friends system doesn't really work too well so we found a server to join and told each other through teamspeak.
Based on the echoes before we all turned it off the in game works and is bound to the alt key.

Quote from: T-Bag;303956It's finding a server. The friends system doesn't really work too well so we found a server to join and told each other through teamspeak.
Based on the echoes before we all turned it off the in game works and is bound to the alt key.

Understood.

If the in-game comms turn out to be acceptable then it's best to use them in preference to TS as it gives us the opportunity to demonstrate how we promote teamwork.

Sorry I could not manage on over the weekend.  The in game voice seems to be variable.  I assume (hopefully) like BF2 it will have different levels of quality that can be set.  I do prefer ventrilo over TS but it makes no difference as long as it is good.  There is nothing to stop opening a guest account in either and posting the details in server messages or the website if you want people to join it.  Once people go to the trouble of registering then they can get the guest access.  

I am now 26 hours into the game and the more I play it with freinds the better it is getting.  I do have a couple of short clips from fraps using 5760 x 1080 but when I put them on youtube the qulity was crap.  I will need to see how to upload at a better quality but there are thousands of clips out there now take a look.  I cannot recommend this game enough.  It does prefer quad cores at the moment but Dice have said they will optimize so dual cores are not hit as hard.

Finally got a clip of half decent quality on youtube.  Only 30 seconds as that is all free fraps allows.  My FPS dips to below when recording a video at this resolution funnily.

after tonight's play with Magnus Paddy and Ranger there's no doubt it's a team game. Squads are a must and a good balance in team members is important as well.

I've come across a couple of spoilers already whom c4 your own bases and destry them. Hopefully DICE will sort that "feature" out.

I would stress that the importance will be on good Admins in-game. Not for the "occasional" admin tbh as I think in the early days it will matter.

I'm approaching 5th rank and weapons are starting to get better. I've stayed with Engineer most of the time and the unlocks are coming in as I progress. There are a few unlocks like the shotty which are applied to all ranks which is good. I think as you progress you'll specialize once and a while. I received 6k xp for playing on a squad for a certain amount of time. That's a good sign.

I think a well-managed server with the focus on good quality recruitment of the right type of player could work for dMw. Could be a platform to launch the new website off of (if it's Ready???!!!).

NF

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

I haven't got the beta and I'm sooo jealous:crying:

Comon blunt, beta is beta, main thing is you get to enjoy it when the real deal comes with everyone else.

Most of the people in here dont need to be told how to play as a squad or as a team but this is a pretty good video on "how not to be a noob"  Based on console game but everything bar UAV machine gun is the same.

[YOUTUBEHQ][/YOUTUBEHQ]

Quote from: '[BIGmagnus;304193']Most of the people in here dont need to know how to play as a squad or as a team but this is a pretty good video on "how not to be a noob"  Based on console game but everything bar UAV machine gun is the same.

That is just epic :lmfao:
Simple simple things and people just can't follow them.

Great Find, Funny and true well played that man!!

:roflmao::roflmao: all the way through it. Would be a blast to have that guy with comms on a server.

Didn't know the UAV had a machine gun. Most of the rest of the stuff I've picked up. I guess it's a lot easier not to be a n00b on the PC though.

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc-beta/894136-new-client-r3-coming-now-before-10am-gmt-changelog.html

Quote from: T-Bag;304216Didn't know the UAV had a machine gun. Most of the rest of the stuff I've picked up. I guess it's a lot easier not to be a n00b on the PC though.

The pc beta does not have it.  It will be an unlock in the full game though.  The patch does seem to have made a difference to my dual core machine at work.  Was able to go up in resolution and add higher settings and still get better FPS.  Hit detection better.  The downside is I noticed some more lag but will need to try more servers to see what it is like over all.

Nice. I'll see if I can get my copy updated tonigth and give it a whirl.

It's good to see DICE acting pro-actively to get this game right!

Quote from: T-Bag;304216Didn't know the UAV had a machine gun.

Quote from: '[BIGmagnus;304246']The pc beta does not have it.  It will be an unlock  in the full game  though.

So the PC Beta doesn't have the 'V ALT W' perk as an unlock?

The PS3 Demo version does, and you get it after scoring a certain number  of points in vehicles.  Equipping the perk at the spawn screen gives  you the secondary weapons for the heavy vehicles (including the machine gun  for the UAV).

Quote from: Cadaver;304250So the PC Beta doesn't have the 'V ALT W' perk as an unlock?

 not yet ;) it will be in a month tho :P

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/02/19/bad-company-2-pc-graphics-details.aspx

Article about graphics.

Quote from: Lexander;304319http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/02/19/bad-company-2-pc-graphics-details.aspx

Article about graphics.

cool lex. thanks..

Just had a quick game trying out alternative tactics shooting down a chopper.. so far iv managed with a UAV (quite easy tbh) and a Quadbike, se that was tricky :P

I fail with youtube tags.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbHEAM3pN2o

Note: Has some strong language.

That's one of the best ones yet!

After giving it a go I've bought this and would recomend it.
 
I'm on as "dmw frenzy"

Another nice video for the pc version of the game.  It also reveals we will be able to change the FOV.

[YOUTUBEHD][/YOUTUBEHD]

its incredible fun to play around with the C4 Uav combo :D

Quote from: '[BIGmagnus;304605']Another nice video for the pc version of the game.  It also reveals we will be able to change the FOV.

Now the rest of the people who still have their thumb in their bumbum, go and buy the game :flirty:

Already bought, just waiting for the pre-load to start.  Anyone got any idea when that will be?

Quote from: TeaLeaf;304611Already bought, just waiting for the pre-load to start.  Anyone got any idea when that will be?

I think that depends on where you bough it, from EA store is should start around one week before and the validation process on the opening day. Maybe same applies to Steam.

Have had it ordered since last year :)  mine will arrive just as I go away for that weekend :) :doh: