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Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: GhostMjr on February 14, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
So the old laptop is pretty much dead in the dust.

The battery no longer works its slower than a bank queue and i simply need a new one.

Preferably by Wednesday as i am going on holiday.

I would like to buy it from a place like pc world staples or currys simply because for the first year if it breaks i can just take it back and they can fix it without the hassle of sending it off anywhere.

I am torn between several options.

It needs to be of a decent spec hopefully this time good enough to play games not at the highest but a good all round perfomer that can play hd movies and the like.

Had a brief look and wondered whether a m1730 xps by dell brand new on ebay for around Ã,£800 is worth it?

Yes its old kit (has a 2x8800gtx sli, 6gb ram, 640gb hdd i think) or should I go for a more up to date lower speced model rather than this.

I think Gandy and TL have these not sure on the battery life but usually I have a power socket where ever i go and i can't remember the last time I used my laptop off the mains anyway.

Budget of Ã,£700-Ã,£800 at a push Ã,£500 preferably.
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: BrotherTobious on February 14, 2010, 04:51:48 PM
Personnaly I wouldn't get one from PC Hell but it your choice!
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: DarkAngel on February 14, 2010, 05:11:10 PM
I wouldn't buy from pcworld i used to work there as a tech, and if its a hardware fault in the first year of warranty they will sent it back to the manufacturers. And you will have to wait for its return do yourself a favour buy online and save the difference.

Maybe something like this (http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/Product/id/734003)?

Others:

2) (http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_7736G_Laptop_LX.PHU02.095/version.asp)
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: delanvital on February 14, 2010, 05:51:27 PM
Quote from: DarkAngel;3040012) (http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_7736G_Laptop_LX.PHU02.095/version.asp)

FYI - It is my experience that the touchpad on the models in that series is really poor
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: DarkAngel on February 14, 2010, 05:54:57 PM
I guess he will be using a mouse?
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: OldBloke on February 14, 2010, 06:36:13 PM
Buying in a hurry? John Lewis (http://www.johnlewis.com/Electricals/Laptops+and+Netbooks/Laptops+and+Netbooks/SubCategory.aspx) - 2 year warranty as standard and not a great deal dearer than other outlets.
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: T-Bag on February 14, 2010, 07:03:57 PM
Following OldBlokes link This (http://www.johnlewis.com/230676450/Product.aspx) would be your dream laptop by the looks of things...though it's a tad expensive.

I think you'll be hard pushed to find something on the highstreet to play games sensibly within your budget. Even if you do you'll be hard pushed to play them for long without the charger. Could be asking a lot from the thing.

Where are you going on holiday that will be so boring that you'll need a laptops worth of entertaining?

Didn't you buy an iPhone to keep yourself amused?
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: Tutonic on February 14, 2010, 11:22:59 PM
I know a few people who have bought some of the new Sony Vaio laptops - they look really nice.
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: TeaLeaf on February 15, 2010, 07:51:47 AM
Quote from: GhostMjr;303998Had a brief look and wondered whether a m1730 xps by dell brand new on ebay for around Ã,£800 is worth it?

Yes its old kit (has a 2x8800gtx sli, 6gb ram, 640gb hdd i think) or should I go for a more up to date lower speced model rather than this.

I think Gandy and TL have these not sure on the battery life but usually I have a power socket where ever i go and i can't remember the last time I used my laptop off the mains anyway.
They are indeed powerful laptops and cope with games very very well.  The screen is excellent too.  In terms of portability though, it is like a desktop in the shape of a laptop.  Pretty heavy and battery life when you turn everything on to full power is about 1 hour tops.  However, as you said, I tend to plug mine in anywhere that I go, so it has yet to be a problem to me.  It's performed flawlessly at LANs and done a sterling job over the 2 years I have had mine.  And it still plays all the games we play at LANs with zero problems.
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: Penfold on February 15, 2010, 09:05:32 AM
I recently bought a Dell XPS M1730 with the SLI graphics etc. It was 2nd hand, (from Gandy no less), but given it's a couple of years old, it's as sweet as.

I bought mine for the LAN's as, like others, I'm wearying of unpacking and repacking my desktop everytime. I've tried it with all the games we currently play and it copes incredibly well - far better than my desktop it has to be said.

As TL says, it ain't the lightest of things to carry and you WILL need the AC Adapter (mine's about the size of my netbook :blink:).

There's a place on Ebay which sells them and where TL and Gandy bought theirs. That may be worth a look.

GL
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: GhostMjr on February 15, 2010, 05:00:32 PM
Well i took the plunge.

I have always been tempted by tl's laptop and gandy's to say the least.

So i looked around still quite expensive but i am happy with what i got.

Pretty much what i think you have pen.

For around Ã,£800 all pcworld and alienware could provide was a geforce 240. I wanted more bang for buck and this is perfect.


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Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: Penfold on February 15, 2010, 05:06:46 PM
Umm have fun typing on that keyboard mate :eyebrow:
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: delanvital on February 15, 2010, 05:25:36 PM
I noticed the same...? I dunno if you can relabel...
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: GhostMjr on February 15, 2010, 05:27:58 PM
Forgot to say they're fitting the uk qwerty for free :D
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: Penfold on February 15, 2010, 05:29:56 PM
Then I approve :D
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: GhostMjr on February 15, 2010, 05:36:51 PM
Quote from: Penfold;304068Then I approve :D

Cheers, Pen i did pick up on it and no one else could match this price, he was going to do a simple keyboard swap.

Have you been able to find all the drivers ok for windows 7 or did you stick with vista?
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: Zootoxin on February 15, 2010, 05:54:17 PM
Nice find with that site mate, you'll have to keep us all posted on how they are.
Also on how the laptop is for gaming etc

Enjoy :)
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: Luminance on February 15, 2010, 07:32:10 PM
I'm thinking of buying one too, same price range really (800 euros). But what would be better, a small pc (shuttle like) or a laptop??
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: Penfold on February 15, 2010, 07:51:36 PM
The onboard Creative Soundcard seemed to be the hardest. I did find a solution online for it.

AFAIK it's running windows 7 64-bit fine. I've only turned it on twice though in the last few months or whenever I bought it..... It's really just waiting for the LAN :).

IF you get stuck on drivers give me a shout and I'll try to find the link.
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: DarkAngel on February 15, 2010, 08:42:35 PM
I know im too late, but this laptop is a steal at this price. Hopefully it will come back into stock soon :)

Toshiba A500 (http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/613355/TOSHIBA-A500-1GL?cm_ven=AFFILIATEWINDOW&cm_mmc=AW-_-HotUKDeals-_-links-_-generic)
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: Toxteth on February 15, 2010, 11:15:37 PM
Quote from: DarkAngel;304100I know im too late, but this laptop is a steal at this price. Hopefully it will come back into stock soon :)

Toshiba A500 (http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/613355/TOSHIBA-A500-1GL?cm_ven=AFFILIATEWINDOW&cm_mmc=AW-_-HotUKDeals-_-links-_-generic)

Might have to snap that one up, this summer definitely requires an upgrade but until then a s****y lap top would help me out with my work quite a bit.
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: GhostMjr on March 03, 2010, 05:52:14 PM
Well, this is proving more challenging than i hoped.

The laptop from uk laptops from opening the box rarely got into windows and kept blue screening.

So under distance of selling i sent it back and got the money back.

I then bought another from a different company and the front speakers and leds were dead.

Couldn't work out from the bios any settings to do anything about it.

I did find a setting to change the front speaker led colour but that didn't seem to work either.

The issue seems to be hardware related as the sound works perfectly via headphones.

So, its going to have to go back unless anyone who has a 1730 on here has had this issue before?

I rang paypal and have submitted a claim back for the monies.

I have now given up and am rather upset :(
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: Penfold on March 03, 2010, 09:46:49 PM
Which OS were you using?
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: GhostMjr on March 03, 2010, 10:17:08 PM
Quote from: Penfold;305097Which OS were you using?

Its windows vista 32 bit ultimate.

Tried 3 different sigmatel drivers but still no luck.

The lights aren't coming on even out of windows and they are definitely set to a colour in bios.

The speakers are still not working despite sound coming from the headphones from the external socket.

I am my wits end :(
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 04, 2010, 07:08:32 AM
The ones Gandalf and I bought came with a 3 yr on-site warranty and the OS pre-installed, I'll try and dig out the name of the Ebay ship we used GM as it sounds like you're having a rough time with it atm.  Dell sometimes use 'very' custom drivers, so it is not surprising you've met some issues.
Title: Time for a new laptop
Post by: Penfold on March 04, 2010, 10:34:09 AM
Sorry mate.

I have Gandy's receipt with the people's name which I can dig out tonight for you if TL can't find his.

I know Gandy had my one working perfectly with Vista 64-bit when he game it to me (as only he would!) but then I buggered about with it, crashed it and subsequently installed Windows 7 64-bit on it as I still have several unused licenses.

The migration to windows 7 went fine bar a couple of issues. I managed to resolve them by doing a google for xpsM1730 and windows 7. If I can find the forum, I'll post it up.

(edit: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=425158)

Stick with it, it's a cracking machine and worth it in the end.