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Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 10:18:46 AM
just recieved my new HD

when i plugged it in it said atpi incompatable, is think coz i have the slave/master jumper in the wrong place?

but when i removed the new HD it then said it about my old one!!!! but it still said press F1 to resume so i did, but my old one still boots up fine.

plz help, i need to transfer the data from my old HD to my new one so that i can get a clean wipe of the old one as windows is having a seriously bad time with major errors!!!!
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2003, 02:24:54 PM
Have you tried putting them on diff channels?
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 03, 2003, 05:29:27 PM
Issue:
ATAPI  incompatible  press F1 to resume.

Cause:
This issue can be caused by any off the following possibilities:

Cable loose or not connected.
CMOS values not properly set.

Solutions:

CABLE LOOSE OR NOT CONNECTED
If any hardware has been recently added or the computer has been recently moved it is possible that the IDE or power cables connected to the hard disk drive or the CD-ROM drive may have become loose or disconnected.

Verify that the hard disk drive as well as the CD-ROM, CD-R or CD-RW drive have at least two or more cables connected to them. Once cable should be a gray flat cable (data / IDE/EIDE cable) and the other should be the power cable. In addition the gray flat cable should be connected to the motherboard or the interface card on your computer.

If the cables appear to be connected properly, disconnect the data and power cables and then reconnect them to insure that they are not loose.

CMOS VALUES NOT PROPERLY SET
If all IDE/EIDE/ATAPI cables have been checked or disconnected and reconnected as instructed above and you continue to experience the same issue it is possible that the IDE/EIDE/ATAPI device may not be setup properly in CMOS.

Verify that if your hard disk drive or CD-ROM drives are IDE/EIDE/ATAPI that they are setup in CMOS and setup properly to their configurations. If the hard drive or drives are setup as Auto values do not need to be checked.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 03, 2003, 05:32:47 PM
Or your drive could have died....

Or you may need to replace your CMOS battery......

Try BB's suggestion first, make sure drive set to master/slave as appropriate as not all motherboards can cable select properly.

GL Sheepster......keep us posted.

TL.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: smite on October 03, 2003, 05:36:16 PM
Goto the website of the drive and check wat it says about jumpers... I had the same problem when i installed my new one.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: smite on October 03, 2003, 05:36:52 PM
It could always be your MB doesnt support large HD's
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 06:59:44 PM
it is a possibility that my mobo wont suport it but i wouldnt have thought so, i bloody hope not, as it is quite an old mobo and i do need to updaqte everythiink but there are several other things that need doing 1st
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2003, 07:00:03 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Oct 3 2003, 02:24 PM
Have you tried putting them on diff channels?
reason I say this is that some drives have issues working with some other drives (even from the same manufacturer)
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 07:09:20 PM
well ive put it on slave now.

turning off pc and trying it.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2003, 07:19:48 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by sheepy@Oct 3 2003, 07:09 PM
well ive put it on slave now.

turning off pc and trying it.
What I mean is that there are 2 EIDE channels that can each support 2 devices - you can have a master and a slave on each channel. Sometimes, hard disks don't like working on the same channel as a another hard disk. If that is case then you can set them both as master but put them on different channels (different ribbon cables rather than the same cable)

Oh, and do as TL suggested, and set all drives to "autodetect" in your BIOS
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 07:23:02 PM
dammit!!!!!

put the jumpers on the correct places

didnt work

went in to CMOS put it on auto, it detected and i was happy

then again

ATAPI not compatable

any ideas,
i really hope that this damn wazzok mobo will accept it.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2003, 07:33:57 PM
what is your motherboard and what is your new hard disk?

Is it an old motherboard? it might have issues with large hard disks.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: Tutonic on October 03, 2003, 07:34:00 PM
wazzock mobo :lmfao:
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 07:39:05 PM
just been to the mobo maunfacturers webby

and there was a point in the FAQ

Q] can this mobo support hard drives of 80gig or more

A] upgrade to latest bios

just doing this now, downloaded it and im now going to install / restart
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 07:47:18 PM
right that didnt work

when i tryed to install it, it replyed with

chipset not suported

flash not suported

make shure flash isnt protected

these were in seperate warnings when trying to install it. so im trying the slightly older bios as that was a beta and the one erlier is a full vertion
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2003, 07:53:33 PM
if it doesn't work please post here the make/model of mobo and hard disk and I'll see what i can find out for you?

Sometimes a BIOS needs to be flashed with certain switches on the commandline to erase and reset the BIOS - just a thought.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 08:40:06 PM
i was almost finished typing this and then my comp reboted for no reason at

mobo - GA-7IXE4

HD - maxtor diamondmax plus 9, 120gig

just in case its important

cpu - 800mhz

ram - about 384mhz
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 03, 2003, 08:49:00 PM
The latest BIOS for this mobo should fix your problems.  See here (http://tw.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/FAQ/FAQ_GA-7IXE4.htm) for summary of the main problems and fixes in the latest bios.  What you describe is not fixed by the last release BIOS, but the beta does fix the problems (the beta being 18 months old and undeveloped after 20th Feb 2002).

I would try to reflash the latest Fad (Beta) BIOS found here (http://tw.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-7IXE4.htm).

When you have flashed the BIOS go into the set up menu in BIOS and reload defaults, this should help reset everything to the new BIOS.

TL.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 08:54:49 PM
reason its undeveloped passed there is that my mobo is over 2 years old now
maybe a lot more than that
OB put it together maybe he rembers better than me
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 08:56:51 PM
i have tryed both of the bios vertions on this bloody page

but i am trying that one again
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 03, 2003, 08:57:15 PM
Btw, you can stick a 1.3GHz Duron in that mobo instead of your 800MHz version, should cost about £30 from a retail outlet and a lot less from a computer fair.  Although if you can stretch a bit further your best bet is to get a mobo/cpu/ram upgrade kit and get into the Athlon range.......

TL.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 08:59:13 PM
can some one quickly post and re assure me that this wont affect my old mobo as it has a lot of important stuff on it thats not backed up yet
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 09:01:36 PM
i want to upgrade my mobo, cpu, ram upgrade 1st is the mobo and cpu
i want a mobo that suports sd and ddr ram then i can use my old ram for a couple of months till i can afford my new ram ie ddr
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 03, 2003, 09:04:24 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by sheepy@Oct 3 2003, 08:59 PM
can some one quickly post and re assure me that this wont affect my old mobo as it has a lot of important stuff on it thats not backed up yet
Flashing a BIOS will *not* make you HDD go fubar, so rest assured that your data is safe.  OTOH a BIOS flash that crashes like a mofu will certainly produce an unbootable system, forcing an upgrade or replacement of said mobo.

TL.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 03, 2003, 09:06:16 PM
Sheepeh - this typing is giving me arthritis - give me a call on my home number (it's in the member's section under the contacts topic) and I'll talk you through it m8.  I'll be on the PC until late, so call anytime before 10.00pm - after that and I'll not get a shag from the missus ;)

TL.
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 09:23:58 PM
i cant rember where i put the contacts bit
Title: ATPI incompatable
Post by: sheepy on October 03, 2003, 09:25:50 PM
found it