I'm tempted to get myself an HTC Desire (http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desire/specification.html) when it's released next week. Devicewire (http://www.devicewire.co.uk/htc-legend) are flogging it for Ã,£369.95 which is actually cheaper than the Hero was a year ago and about Ã,£150 cheaper than the Nexus One on which it is based.
I can get Ã,£125.00 trade in on my Hero which means I'm looking at shelling out Ã,£240ish quid for this one. Hmmmmmmmmm. :g:
It's a good jump going to a 1Ghz processor. It'll also have 2.1 Android which sounds like it's worth having. Whether you think it's worth the cash is up to you, it's essentially the hero still, no huge technological leaps.
Yeah I have had my eyes on it for a bit... best specs, but far from the same beauty as the Legend... that thing does look sweet. Also, I would really want the large HD2-screen and now that this has come in the Evo 4G phone as well, perhaps it is worth the wait...
The Legend is even closer to the Hero's specs so I can't justify the expense for the relatively small boost to power. I agree though it is a very attractive phone. However I guess that's why I never went for the iPhone. A smartphone has to be more than eye wateringly beautiful, it has to have function as well. The Desire is twice as powerful as the Hero. Even with the tweaks I've done to the Hero it's working at the limit of it's hardware. I just meed MORE power!
The iPhone never allows more than one app to run at a time and so always maintains it's silky smooth responsiveness. The Hero is a proper multitasker but suffers from a reduction in performance as a result. I hoping the Desire will be both smooth and powerful. If it is, then I think it could be the first true 'Superphone' - to coin a phrase from Google. Obviously the Nexus One came first but the Nexus and Desire are both more or less the same phone with the Desire having Sense UI and a much more respectable price tag.
Of course I'll still root it and install a custom ROM just to make it even better :rolleyes:
well I had put the wifes HTC HD2 order on hold due to being on hoiliday in Ireland and they couldnt get it to us b4 we went, would it be more prudent to go for the desire or stick with the HD2 due to the screen size and the way HTC has managed to hide windows mobile?
any thoughts?
Android all the way for me. Seamless integration with Google mail/calendar is such a joy.
My only concern would be the appearance of Windows Series 7 Mobile Seven Series Mobile thing :blink: or whatever they decide to call it. Would you get the update and if so would it break HTC's UI and therefore even be possibe? If I was a WinMo user I might try to hold out for Windows Mobile 7.
A purely personal opinion is that Android is a better OS than Windows Mobile 6.5 plus Sense UI, but that is a very subjective and personal opinion.
What's the opinion on Sony's X10? Looks pretty nice to me :-)
Before my Hero, I had a WinMo phone, and Android is better in every way. When you have a choice between the two I'd go the android route.
Quote from: suicidal_monkey;307530What's the opinion on Sony's X10? Looks pretty nice to me :-)
I hear it has no multi touch and comes with Android 1.6. That seems hard to believe now that 2.1 is standard
Source (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/03/29/sony_ericsson_x10_no_multitouch_hardware/)
Im thinking of selling my HTC HD2 if your interested Sulky, can't really use it in the states :)
My dad was so unhappy about his Blackberry (they honestly are terrible, worst phone I've used) that he talked T-Mobile into offering him a new phone. He had a Choice of a samsung, the HD2 or the Desire. I recommended the latter and he's going to have a desire arrive this weekend. I'll let you know what I think because I happen to be be going back home this week for a wedding anyway.
Quote from: DarkAngel;307708Im thinking of selling my HTC HD2 if your interested Sulky, can't really use it in the states :)
wife wants it on a contract so its free soz mate
Quote from: sulky_uk;307726wife wants it on a contract so its free soz mate
Nps buddy, its a great phone well worth the splash.
Quote from: smilodon;307546I hear it has no multi touch and comes with Android 1.6. That seems hard to believe now that 2.1 is standard
Source (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/03/29/sony_ericsson_x10_no_multitouch_hardware/)
No, it's 1.6. It is sadly quite common...
Well through a convoluted route I'm going to be getting one of these next week (stocks permitting). So I'll let you know how I get on.
Just had a play with my dad's one that arrived yesterday. Have to say I prefer the hero in a lot of respects. it's easier to hold the hero. The desire is larger and flat which doesn't lend as well to one handed operation. Though the chin doesn't lend itself as well to pockets as this does. Very thin and nice.
Uses the power button on top to switch on the screen rather than a choice on the front of the hero (my old htc phone did this so it's quite natural once you work it out, but was a little confusing the first time I tried to turn it on).
Biggest downfall of the phone is moving away from the microusb B cable to the even smaller usb b form factor used in the likes of the blackberry. I really like use of the standard cable that everyone I know has lying around over a much rarer cable that you'll then have to carry with you.
First impressions, design wise I like the flash and big screen but would prefer the chin of the hero. Dislike the charging port. Processor is faster, like the pinch zoom, but very little difference between android 1.5 and 2.1.
Well I got my Desire yesterday. I noticed some of the observations T-Bag made about his dads phone. I've already used several versions of Android 2.1 on my Hero so I'm familiar with the OS. It's not a great deal different than the older versions. Just looking at the UI I think they could have called this 1.7 to be honest. I assume there were big changes under the bonnet, hence the move to version 2. The power/sleep button on the top is taking some getting used to as I'm always going for the button locational the Hero. The new USB connector is a pain I agree. However as I understand it this is the new standard that all hardware manufacturers are being asked to adopt, so ironically it's the Hero that has the none standard connector :g: Still means I have to go buy new leads for connecting it to a PC and charging it up in a car.
I'm not sure if faster is the right term for the Desire as things are now instant, so speed doesn't seem to be relevant. I tap or swipe or pinch and whatever is supposed to happen just happens. No lag at all, nothing. Installing apps is now super fast. I'm not using an app killer either as there's no point. In fact as understand it there never was a reason to kill apps as Android manages it's own memory requirements very well.
I got this phone for free but f I had bought this phone to replace a Hero (no I didn't steal it :rolleyes: ) I might have wondered where my money went. The Desire isn't a whole lot different than the Hero in any very obvious way. Bit bigger, bit brighter, smoother and faster, with a better Market interface and UI effects.
However what for me at least is the big news, is that the Desire is better than the iPhone. It has all of it's strengths and none of it's weaknesses. The UI is equally as smooth and responsive. There are now 30,000 apps in the Android Market so I'll be well served with my 'Appy Addiction'. In every other way the Desire does what the iPhone does and more. It also does it simpler and without the odd quirks and limitations the iPhone imposes.
Possibly the only area where the iPhone beats the Desire is with games. The iPhone has a built in hard-drive and so can install bigger games with more 3D action. The Android phones are still limited to about 500MB for storage and unless you root them they will not run applications from the SD card. This means games have to be smaller and therefore there are very few 3D games of note on the Android platform.
I'm not knocking the iPhone, but as the benchmark against which everything else is measured it an important day when it is superseded by another procuct. It's a testament to Apple that it took over three years for everyone else to catch up.
I am a IPhone user and I am now out of contract and this has caught my eye. But I am wondering how do you think it will stand up to OS 4.0 when they final introduce multi tasking to the Iphone?
Quote from: smilodon;308179Well I got my Desire yesterday....
Well, that made me wait longer and stick with the Hero, perhaps waiting for the 4,3" 1GHz Evo (http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/03/500x_img_0243.jpg) to arrive in a European version :g:
Quote from: BrotherTobious;308180I am a IPhone user and I am now out of contract and this has caught my eye. But I am wondering how do you think it will stand up to OS 4.0 when they final introduce multi tasking to the Iphone?
OS4 doesn't multitask quite as well as Android, still.
Quoteââ,¬Â¢ Multitasking: It's here, finally (http://gizmodo.com/5512656/iphone-multitasking-will-let-you-run-apps-simultaneously). It's handled with a simple task switcher: double click your home button, and you get a list of running apps. Select, switch, done. Multitasking is limited to audio streaming, VoIP and GPS apps, as well as a few other allowances: they can finish specific, important tasks in the background, for example. As far as non-music/nav/VoIP apps, those can be suspended in the background, but not left running. (See below.) Full details here (http://gizmodo.com/5512656/iphone-multitasking-will-let-you-run-apps-simultaneously).
Linky (http://gizmodo.com/5512635/iphone-os-40-all-the-new-features?skyline=true&s=i)
I know they also state this:
QuoteBasically, what Apple has done is to solve all the complaining from users who wanted to do several things at the same time. While this is not 100% multitasking, in the traditional desktop sense, it's a good thing. Consumers won't care about full multitasking if it really works like this. It's all a matter of perception and being able to do what you want to do, as fast as possible, while keeping the sense of speed and a long battery life.
But I have a myriad of apps I run in the background. I basically use the phone as I would on a PC.
Thanks for the info Delen, I think the only thing holding me back atm is not actualy using the unit and my car stero system is set up for the Iphone
Use an iPod in your car, and your new HTC phone as your phone. Or if your stereo has USB you can mount the phone as flash memory and play that way.
The multitasking will be much better, as will the web browsing (Flash support etc). I have a stereo with iPod support but I'd never dream of an iPhone, just leave an old 80GB Classic in there instead.
Yep I also can plug my Hero/Desire into the USB port on my car stereo. I also bought all my mp3 music from Amazon which is DRM free so I can simply drag and drop it onto the SD card in my phone and it plays fine. I'm not sure how easy it will be to move iPhone music onto an SD card?
It more that the headunit I got is already set up and is nicely all wired in etc. And I do have access to USB etc but it wont be as good.
But it a choice I think it will really come down to when I have a play. But thanks for the advice gents I will have to think on.
Well, mine has arrived :D
Looking fantastic so far and the speed! wow, so much more responsive than the hero, even with the custom rom!
Screensize is a lot nicer too, far more useable and the higher res makes web browsing a lot nicer.
Quote from: Gandalf;308242Well, mine has arrived :D
Looking fantastic so far and the speed! wow, so much more responsive than the hero, even with the custom rom!
Screensize is a lot nicer too, far more useable and the higher res makes web browsing a lot nicer.
How are you getting to grips with the lack of "Chin" though?
No more dropping my phone face down on the table that's for sure. However someone said to me today "Oh you got a iPhone I see?"
Now I feel all dirty :sideways:
Quote from: T-Bag;308268How are you getting to grips with the lack of "Chin" though?
It's great, no problems at all. I've got a noreve leather case with it too so it's fully protected and really nice to hold :)
Quote from: Gandalf;308352it's fully protected and really nice to hold :)
That's what my girlfriend said about mine last night.
Well I had a play today in the shop and most impressed, I am really considering moving.
Just a few questions to come but heres the first.
I use putty quite a lot at work is there a terminal app for that?
Quote from: BrotherTobious;308434Well I had a play today in the shop and most impressed, I am really considering moving.
Just a few questions to come but heres the first.
I use putty quite a lot at work is there a terminal app for that?
If you mean putty as a ssh client, then the command line equivalent is just 'ssh'. Can you guess what the telnet command is? :D
EDIT: Just realised Android doesn't have a proper shell so disregard the above, but I believe there are market apps for it.
Quote from: BrotherTobious;308434Well I had a play today in the shop and most impressed, I am really considering moving.
Just a few questions to come but heres the first.
I use putty quite a lot at work is there a terminal app for that?
http://www.appbrain.com/app/org.connectbot
I also use telnet and such and putty has them all built in thus my use of the Putty.
But thanks for the help I am really close to getting one just a bit more exploring.
Quote from: BrotherTobious;308438I also use telnet and such and putty has them all built in thus my use of the Putty.
But thanks for the help I am really close to getting one just a bit more exploring.
Check with James as well, I think he has one as well.
my wife relented and decided to get the desire instead of the Hd2 and all i can say is wow
and it says
firmware
2.1
so new android on it then:)
So we all still happy, notice anything that is buggy etc, O2 are soon releasing and just wondering what I should be aware of :)
Love it, fantastic. So much better than the Hero.
havent found anything wrong with it.....if only i could have 1 but 1 yr to go on n97 contract
Hmmmm faults.
1. Power hungry. Heavy use without some sort of power manager app is going to kill the phone in a day.
2. Screen is unreadable in direct sunlight. Turn the brightness up to 100% and it's OK. Better if you cup your hand over the screen.
3. Screen colours are a little off due to an odd hardware set up. Some greys appear to have a slightly pink hue. See HERE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656128) for details. It's hardly noticeable and not a problem at all
4. Friends stream. Whenever it updates it jumps you to the top of the stream (i.e. newest feed) so you have to scroll all the way back down to where you were before the update in order to read stuff in the order it arrived. Makes the Friend Stream feature pointless.
On the other hand there are things that are much better than I expected.
1. Camera. Actually takes nice photos and is very fast for a digital camera. Nowhere near DSLR speeds but then there are no digital cameras anywhere that come remotely close to those speeds.
2. Video, also better and clearer than I imagined.
3. Live wallpapers. Totally pointless but very cool looking
4. Casing is very smooth and doesn't pick up fingerprints etc. Always looks clean.
5. Optical trackball. Better than the Hero's trackball which wasn't bad itself. Easy to use and responsive.
6. Speed. It's lightning fast. Faster than an iPhone and faster than I was expecting.
Quote from: smilodon;308963Hmmmm faults.
1. Power hungry. Heavy use without some sort of power manager app is going to kill the phone in a day.
first app i downloaded for the wife was advanced task killer (its free) from the market. only reason i did this was because i have had something similiar on all the phones ive had since my nosy Ericsson p900. Now she can get 3 days out of the battery b4 charging, and that includes a bit of phone use per day. One thing i did notice is the amount of programs the thing runs by default, this thou gets rid of the blighters.
Quote from: sulky_uk;308964first app i downloaded for the wife was advanced task killer (its free) from the market. only reason i did this was because i have had something similiar on all the phones ive had since my nosy Ericsson p900. Now she can get 3 days out of the battery b4 charging, and that includes a bit of phone use per day. One thing i did notice is the amount of programs the thing runs by default, this thou gets rid of the blighters.
I used to use this, but ran into loads of problems with it killing stuff it shouldn't do and stopping essential things from working such as text messages!
In the end I got rid of it as the battery life for me is good. I get a couple of days normal use out of mine, a full day heavy use and as it's usb I'm never that far away from a suitable charge point.
Quote from: Gandalf;308965I used to use this, but ran into loads of problems with it killing stuff it shouldn't do and stopping essential things from working such as text messages!
I don't know about Task Killer, but I'm using Taskpanel - which I believe is exceptionally good. Amongst others it has an ignore list, so you can explicitly specify which apps not to kill (I learned that the hard way the first time I used it, killing of my alarm - I was a bit late at work the day after :p).
Quote from: Bob;308980I don't know about Task Killer, but I'm using Taskpanel - which I believe is exceptionally good. Amongst others it has an ignore list, so you can explicitly specify which apps not to kill (I learned that the hard way the first time I used it, killing of my alarm - I was a bit late at work the day after :p).
I would like to recommend using Autokiller (http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-rs-autokiller-wEwp.aspx), adjusted to reasonable settings. Instead of having an app running to sort out your memory, just use this app once to adjust the internal timings to your liking. Pages can be adjusted to megabytes instead. Most important - you can adjust per type of application.
Another take on the Task Killer Idea.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Quote from: smilodon;309000Another take on the Task Killer Idea.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
It's those internal timings autokiller adjusts, instead of. killing the apps.
Paul O'Brian has rooted the HTC Desire. Details are here (http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/307365/28-apr-r1-htc-desire-rooting-guide/#entry1254371).
No AP2SD yet but it should be along pretty soon. This is a fist revision and a such requires you to have access to both Windows and Linux. It's nowhere near as clean as the 1 click process that was available on the Hero but it at least works.
Quote from: smilodon;309083Paul O'Brian has rooted the HTC Desire. Details are here (http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/307365/28-apr-r1-htc-desire-rooting-guide/#entry1254371).
No AP2SD yet but it should be along pretty soon. This is a fist revision and a such requires you to have access to both Windows and Linux. It's nowhere near as clean as the 1 click process that was available on the Hero but it at least works.
A2sd has been donebit.ly/9p3lKd (//bit.ly/9p3lKd)
Well it is done. I now have a shiny new Desire with root access and a gigabyte of storage for apps. Sweet.
Now to install everything again. :eyebrow:
you must help me when I get mine which now looks like mid may :(
Get in the queue, I want him to root my Hero at the LAN! Then I get envious of his Desire.... :dribble:
Installed MoDaCo's Customer ROM for the Desire. No wipe needed and no format for the SD card either. Everything is looking very nice. Now have wireless teathering and the Google Navigation App from the Nexus One along with other goodies I've yet to check out.
Features
Based on the 1.21.xxx.x ROM series
Pre-rooted with su and Superuser Permissions 2.0.3 by ChainsDD
Built with the MCR build process which reduces the size and boosts the speed of the ROM
Patched 'Rosie' (Sense) to allow click-drag homescreen rearrange when pinch-zoomed out
busybox with Droid Explorer support
'Genie' News and Weather widget
Jbed Java
MCR version displayed in 'About' screen
'Navigation Panel' (HTC version of 'Car Home')
OpenVPN binary
terminfo and settings in boot.img to allow nano etc. use
Updated Google Maps
Voice Search
Removed bootsound (can be restored via the online kitchen)
Optional A2SD via the online kitchen
Optional Android 2.1 stock Contacts application
Optional Amazon MP3
Optional Development Tools
Optional Hebrew fonts
Optional HTC CIME Chinese Input
Optional patched HTC IME version 25 by jonasl
Optional Titanium Backup
Optional Wavesecure via the online kitchen (installed to system partition for maximum security)
Optional WiFi Status indicator
De-odexed for you themers out there!
This seems a pretty good deal for the desire.
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/o2-htc-desire.html?utm_source=awin&utm_medium=AFF&utm_term=awinlink&utm_content=89637&isaffiliate=1
24 months @ Ã,£35 on O2 - 900 mins unlimted texts + Ã,£5 for unlimited data. + 7months free or Ã,£90 cashback... oh, and the handset is free! :blink:
Quote from: Penfold;309624This seems a pretty good deal for the desire.
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/o2-htc-desire.html?utm_source=awin&utm_medium=AFF&utm_term=awinlink&utm_content=89637&isaffiliate=1
24 months @ Ã,£35 on O2 - 900 mins unlimted texts + Ã,£5 for unlimited data. + 7months free or Ã,£90 cashback... oh, and the handset is free! :blink:
24 month deals really suck IMHO. It's just too long to own a phone without wanting a change. 18 month max is my rule.
Vodafone options...
24 month
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/catalog/compatiblePlanListView.jsp?dependantSkuIds=sku2500030&phoneType=post&skuType=phoneSku&selection=&initialFilters=flt_paymonthly&_requestid=458144
18 month
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/catalog/compatiblePlanListView.jsp?dependantSkuIds=sku2500030&phoneType=post&skuType=phoneSku&selection=&initialFilters=flt_paymonthly&_requestid=458144
I've tried all networks and have come back to vodafone as they really are the best for coverage and support that I've found. And coupled with the suresignal, I now have max signal at home! Fantastic :D
18 months is the max I can put up with. I pay a bit more each month to make sure I can change those 6 months earlier. Phones have always seen better days by then.
O2 are in the shops doing a new tariff, where after 12 months you can upgrade your phone.
Also worth noting is that as far as I can tell O2 do not have a data cap on their service. I have a free data 'bolt on' with my Ã,£19.99 a month SIM only contract. As long as I don't use it for P2P or streaming large amounts of video, I can do pretty much what I like. I'm averaging 500-600MB a month at the moment with no squeak from O2.
Same deal with vodafone on the cap. They advertise it as 500MB but they don't enforce it. Loads of posts on their forums about this.
Until the 1st of June.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/05/07/vodafone_out_of_bundle_charges/ (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/05/07/vodafone_out_of_bundle_charges/)
Just read that and personally I think that's fine. Ã,£5 for another 500MB isn't really a problem. With the use I do at the moment I'm currently sitting at around 200MB a month as I'm wlan at home and work.
wife got hers from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk on vodafone with 300 texts 100 mins anynet, unlimited internet, free 4gig sd card and car charger, for 25 a month, phone was free on a 18 month contract
Quote from: sulky_uk;309724wife got hers from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk on vodafone with 300 texts 100 mins anynet, unlimited internet, free 4gig sd card and car charger, for 25 a month, phone was free on a 18 month contract
that is very tempting! ...where's the catch?! ...surely there must be a catch?!
T-Mobile data cap on it's unlimited streaming is 3GB and after that the connection gets throttled, not sure if there's an extra fee you can pay to de-limit it, but I don't think I'll ever need 3GB on this phone. I can see it being likely in a decade maybe.
no catch for the contract my wife got from what i have seen, and soz it was 100 mins 500 texts + unlim inter
have a look at these
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p31043.aspx (http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p31043.aspx)
The catch will be "Subject to a fair usage policy". This is what the 3GB limit on mine is. I asked them directly. Upto 3GB is considered fair usage, more gets throttled but no extra charge or disconnection. Seems fair enough for me looking at what I've used.
Here's what will happen to the internet you have next month (http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-phones/news/2010/05/07/Vodafone-Scraps-Fair-Usage-Data-Policy/p1) I wouldn't worry, I've not gone over 500mb (was heading that way before beebplayer stopped working. It's just worth being aware of these things. You don't know what apps will be out in 6 months time.
Look for 'Stats' in the App Market. It's a lifesaver for keeping track of call time, texts, data etc.
Brothers I am now one of you, I have shead the oppressive Apple and embraced the cool steel of Android. :D:D
Quote from: BrotherTobious;310265Brothers I am now one of you, I have shead the oppressive Apple and embraced the cool steel of Android. :D:D
My contract is also up (by over 5 months!!) and I'm definately going to android next, I was hoping to hold out for the EVO4G equivalent in the UK. Might be waiting a while though :(
Very tempted by the desire though
Not sure we'll get the Evo4 in the UK as it's specific to the US carrier Sprint and their 4G network. Still stranger things have happened :)
It seems you can get the Desire free on an 18 month, 600 minute, uncapped data plan for Ã,£40 a month or Ã,£30 if you pay Ã,£99 for the phone. Now that Vodafone have shafted their customers by reducing their data plan down to a pitiful 500MB a month it looks like a good deal (although I hate the idea of being locked into a phone deal for a year and a half
http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/HTC/Desire
Quote from: smilodon;310284Not sure we'll get the Evo4 in the UK as it's specific to the US carrier Sprint and their 4G network. Still stranger things have happened :)
It seems you can get the Desire free on an 18 month, 600 minute, uncapped data plan for Ã,£40 a month or Ã,£30 if you pay Ã,£99 for the phone. Now that Vodafone have shafted their customers by reducing their data plan down to a pitiful 500MB a month it looks like a good deal (although I hate the idea of being locked into a phone deal for a year and a half
http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/HTC/Desire
I do believe he meant the "equivalent" - same reason I haven't done the Desire-upgrade yet. The Evo being a slighter newer type of phone, compared to the Desire, I hope it won't take too long for a phone with somewhat identical specs to appear in Europe. Especially the screen looks awesome!
I've had my Desire for a month, and I'm totally in love with it!! What I want now is to get froyo on it...
AFAIK, the Evo needs a 4G network to do what is does (feel free to correct me), which is why we won't be seeing it here in the short term, as
lust-worthy as it is.
Ah I understand. Yep an 'equivalent' phone may put in an appearance. As I understand it the Evo has an 8 mega-pixel camera and 8 or 16 gig of built in ROM, plus a few other bits and bobs (better screen).
I suppose we could end up waiting for ever for the 'next' phone. At some point you just have to jump in and grab one :)
Evo's got a slightly bigger screen although same res and not AMOLED
8mp camera with dual flash and 720p video capture over the 5mp on the desire.
HDMI out on the EVO, the potential for using it as a tiny media player for 720p tv eps. :D
Then comes the downfall that its ofcourse never coming out in the UK with its current spec. But who needs 4G anyway? If they keep these specs but drops the 4G I would still buy it.
But then again every day I look at the desire and want it, 18 months contracts though :(
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Still undecided :o
Quote from: smilodon;310344I suppose we could end up waiting for ever for the 'next' phone. At some point you just have to jump in and grab one :)
Yep, that's why I bought a Nokia 3310 :D
Ordered the desire earlier on. Offline @ Ã,£285 :)
Nice price, where did you find that?
Quote from: TeaLeaf;310743Nice price, where did you find that?
o2 retentions. And changed my contract to the iphone simplicity Ã,£20 a month. 300 minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited net. No contract.
Seemed like the best idea to me, so if a better phone comes along its easier to change.
Froyo (2.2) is up and running on my Desire, and it is fantastic. Over twice the performance of 2.1 and it's really stable too. Using LeeDrOiD Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724123
Been running LeeDroid for a couple of days now. You're right its very speedy. My pure widgets decided not to load this morning though. Just got "Problem loading gadget" on the screens. Oh its doing it for the tapatalk widget too. Ill investigate a bit now, I've just got in from a bike ride so need to chill for a minute and eat this mcflurry :>
Froyo \o/
ok, the only bug I've found so far is the compass sensor doesn't work initially until you tip the phone vertically a few times, then it seems ok.
im just going to wait for the official Vodafone release
Quote from: sulky_uk;313500im just going to wait for the official Vodafone release
Well, you may see that around Christmas then.... if current rumours circulating are correct. That's why I ended up rooting. Was running out of space for apps! Now I have ap2sd+ and it's all cake :D
Sorted my problem by reinstalling from backups because I'm afk.
Its really not hard to root the desire at at with the r6 method and rom manager.
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I really desire (ha ha) one of these. What's a good deal to get for 100+ calls and texts plus data at the moment? Some reasonable stuff via cashback but would rather get a decently close contract to avoid cashback hassles if possible.
Version 1.3 of leedroid up now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724123
Quote from: suicidal_monkey;313527I really desire (ha ha) one of these. What's a good deal to get for 100+ calls and texts plus data at the moment? Some reasonable stuff via cashback but would rather get a decently close contract to avoid cashback hassles if possible.
this is where i got mine for 25 a month plus unlim internet, although now for new customers its only 500mb or 1 gb
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p31043.aspx?lpsrc=google&lpcat=Brand&lpgrp=Brand&lptxt=MPD4&lpkey=mobile%20phones%20direct&sitelink=link5&gclid=CNrH_p6Y8KICFRGZ2AodeHhCjg#tabsAnchor (http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p31043.aspx?lpsrc=google&lpcat=Brand&lpgrp=Brand&lptxt=MPD4&lpkey=mobile%20phones%20direct&sitelink=link5&gclid=CNrH_p6Y8KICFRGZ2AodeHhCjg#tabsAnchor)
It's always worth working out the cheapest deal for a contract free phone plus a sim only contract. T right be the case that the cost of a two year contract is more than the cost of a phone plus sim. For example for me it was
Free HTC Hero + Ã,£45 contract for two years = Ã,£1080
against
Ã,£385 for HTC Hero + Ã,£19.95 a month Sim only = Ã,£863 over the same time scale.
It might work our similar for a Desire?
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Quote from: smilodon;313590It's always worth working out the cheapest deal for a contract free phone plus a sim only contract. T right be the case that the cost of a two year contract is more than the cost of a phone plus sim. For example for me it was
Free HTC Hero + Ã,£45 contract for two years = Ã,£1080
against
Ã,£385 for HTC Hero + Ã,£19.95 a month Sim only = Ã,£863 over the same time scale.
It might work our similar for a Desire?
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O2 (who I am with currently) seem to offer the HTC sim free for Ã,£285 (unless I misheard) and I currently use one of their simplicity things with an internet bolton that comes out at around Ã,£17.50ish a month
I found a cashback deal on a 2 year contract that works out at 17.19 a month on Orange dolphin 25 (300 mins + Unlimited texts + 500MB data). I've used the casback firm before with success (e2save) but it is a bit of a pain, plus as mentioned earlier in this thread you are still locked in for 2 years.
...how many Mb do people actually use - I suspect I would very very rarely get anywhere near 500Mb let alone 100Mb... but maybe I'm not aware how much data is going through my phone?
Quote from: suicidal_monkey;313593...how many Mb do people actually use - I suspect I would very very rarely get anywhere near 500Mb let alone 100Mb... but maybe I'm not aware how much data is going through my phone?
I'm actually as low as 40-50 MB each month (I've got 50 included in my subscription). The main reason it is that low, is that I have access to wireless almost everywhere I am (and the times when I surf the net whilst not on wireless, I use Opera Mini which saves you tremendous amounts of MBs on the net). And I ride a bike to work every day, so I can't really surf on the phone while doing that. But if you have a lot of commuting to and from work, or lots of travelling etc., I guess you easily could use some hundreds of MBs a month (if you would spend your time on YouTube, streaming from Spotify or other data-intense services).
i used 200mb last month, all i did was the occasional surf and left the auto updates on. for downloading any apps or extended browsing i tend to connect it to free wifi's or my wifi at home when i cant be bothered walking up the stairs to my main.
i also use an app called 3g watchdog.. i think its been mentioned on here, it monitors all your 3g downloads so you can see how close you are to your limit, and it doesnt monitor if you use wifi (unlike the crap app on the equally crap n97)
The best one I have found and used for about 2 years now is "netcounter".
Found in the market. And its free.
It splits it down to Total/monthly/7 days/today for the phone using 3g.
It then does the same for using Wifi, so its all separated and you can track everything.
I run a little app called 'Stats' which keeps track of calls, texts and data. I use my phone once or twice a week as a wireless access point for my Netbook but don' do much more than 400 meg a month.
Quote from: smilodon;313600I run a little app called 'Stats' which keeps track of calls, texts and data.
I can recommend 'Stats' as well. Very good app to keep track of your stats, both for data, calls and texts :)
I have a computer at home, one in the office and one in the lab. I'm generally never more than a few mins away from one so most of the time I don't use a huge amount of data. I have unlimited through T-Mobile so it makes no difference to me how much I use but typically no more than 100mb often much less. This month so far I've used 12mb.
When I'm away or on long journeys it easy to use more but a 500mb limit would be plenty. The 3gb fair usage policy with T-Mobile before they throttle its speed back is excessive for me for now at least till I find something worthwhile to use it on. I tried tethering it to my computer to supply my mobile internet needs but it was too slow and glitchy so have a standalone dongle that provides sensible speeds.
I am on flatrate but have followed my usage out of interest and I seem to settle on 350-600MB/month. Most is consumed by grooveshark and other streaming apps when on the go, besides regular surfing and getting mails. If i ditched music streaming (which I won't) I could do with probably 150-250MB.
I also use the phone for wifi tethering, occasionally: that sucks a lot (100MB gone in a work day for sure, probably more) and should be included in your considerations.
thanks for the figures guys, interesting to see how much (or how little!) people tend to use!
Edit: went for the o2 sim-free deal at 285 up front, keeping my rolling monthly contract :-) should have it next week... Any recommendations for a soft/hard cover, screen protector, etc for a Desire?
i have been on holiday for neary 1 and a half weeks now (in Crete) and have only just realised that i can use the usb tethering on my desire hd to connect to the internet on my laptop (im a slow person......). omg its quick!! its like having a normal connection :) am just dreading the surcharge, although they say its a fixed rate of 2 quid a day, anyone else used tethering abroad? if so has it cost you much?