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Title: Rig me!
Post by: Toxteth on June 29, 2010, 06:53:17 PM
Hi guys, I'm looking to build me a new rig.

I'm not going to bore you with what I have now as I want EVERYTHING but a Hard Drive.

I'm toying with what's best to get, are i3 and i5 processors worth getting or should I just grab an i7?

Graphics card wiase I was thinking an ATI 5870.

RAM - 6GB + as I have to do large renders for my course so the more the merrier.

I have a copy of Windows 7 Pro 64 bit ready and waiting to be installed.

Just ideas of what to avoid and what to get. Case and all!

Price, Ã,£600 - Ã,£800.

Cheers! :)
Title: Rig me!
Post by: T-Bag on June 29, 2010, 07:24:18 PM
i5 is probably what you'll be after. I'll be watching this thread with interest as I'll be spending next month or the month after's pay cheque on a new computer now that my holiday is all over.
Title: Rig me!
Post by: RizZy on July 01, 2010, 07:47:56 AM
I just had a quick look around & I think your gonna struggle to stay under Ã,£800 with both i7 & a 5870, although it's probably the way I'd go (& did) it might cost you a few quid more.
Title: Rig me!
Post by: Toxteth on July 01, 2010, 03:23:55 PM
Is an i7 worth the extra then?
Title: Rig me!
Post by: RizZy on July 01, 2010, 04:15:40 PM
I couldn't really tell you the difference between the i7/5/3 - have a search for some speed comparison charts to get a better idea if it's worth it - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/3DMark-Vantage-1.0.2,1396.html is just one to start with, I went with the i7 920 because I could afford to, but from what I recall at the time (the i5 & i3 had just come out) people thought they where worth a look at, I don't know how AMD chips will run for your coursework as intels always been the way to go for apps as far as I know.
Title: Rig me!
Post by: RizZy on July 01, 2010, 06:46:06 PM
I found a better cpu benchmark for you Tox, the other one I posted is a bit out of date, try this one - Linky (http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2?i=142.99.45.100.107.46.145.108.117.48.109.144.47.54.49.102.146.55.50.143.88.51.118.56.59.57.80.76.123.120.58.87.81.75.89.53.60.97.85.82.83.122.86.94.84.62.21.105.119.52.29.112.61.22.106.90.78.23.63.98.66.121.111.27.24.25.28.64.114.26.65.30.31.32.67.33.34.36.35.68.37.101.93.69.38.70.71.39.40.92.41.42.72.116.73.43.74.44.115.110.104.91.79.103)

Both the times I've built my rigs I've picked the cpu I wanted 1st & worked everything else out from there, so, thats your 1st job.

Just for the sake of it -

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1676/riga.jpg)
Title: Rig me!
Post by: kregoron on July 02, 2010, 09:57:58 PM
double the memory on the rig rizzy posted and you should be good to go :)
Title: Rig me!
Post by: Toxteth on July 02, 2010, 11:56:38 PM
K totalled up, blowing my budget a little but that's not a massive issue as I just found out I'm getting the full grant next year :D

Ã,£850 ish so far. which leaves about Ã,£50 for a case. My current one is a light aluminium case, great for transport, but is loud as anything. I want something a bit quieter. Any suggestions? On the Overclockers recommendations was http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-101-AN (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-101-AN)
Title: Rig me!
Post by: RizZy on July 03, 2010, 06:24:08 AM
I've got the Antec 902, it's a nice case, from what I recall the 300 is just as nice. Depending on what gfx card you've opted for check that'll fit - my 5870 only just gets in my 902, there big ol' cards.
Title: Rig me!
Post by: Benny on July 03, 2010, 05:59:53 PM
Can't recommend these guys enough. Why muck about and take the skin off your knuckles when you can do it the easy way.
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk


Quote from: Ã,£831Case   STYLISH SILVER/BLACK TRIDENT CASE + 2 FRONT USB
Processor (CPU)   IntelÃ,® Coreâ„¢i7-860 Quad Core (2.80GHz, 8MB Cache)
Motherboard   ASUSÃ,® P7H55-M SI: MICRO ATX VALUE MAINBOARD,USB 2.0 & SATA 3.0Gb/s
Memory (RAM)   4GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 2GB)
Graphics Card   1GB ATI RADEONâ„¢ HD 5830 PCI EXPRESS - DirectXÃ,® 11 (Special Offer)
2nd Graphics Card   NONE
3rd Graphics Card   NONE
Memory - 1st Hard Disk   250GB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
2nd Hard Disk   NONE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive   24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER Ã,±R/Ã,±RW/RAM
2nd DVD/BLU-RAY Drive   NONE
Memory Card Reader   INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (READS XD, MS, CF, SD, etc)
Title: Rig me!
Post by: kregoron on July 04, 2010, 12:07:19 AM
im sure their great Benny :)

but why spend so the same on a rig thats actually a lot slower?
rad 5830 graphics instead of the above posted 5870..
the mobo is a H55 based, H55 is not as fast as the P55 chipset, as the H55 was made for i3/i5 low end, mainly for hte onboard gpu utilization.
half the memory if he went with my suggestion and doubled the memory to 8 gig, totalling around 850'ish..
Title: Rig me!
Post by: DrSteam on July 04, 2010, 09:09:58 AM
Compare pcspecialist with these guys http://www.powerc.com/uk/gp/custom%20gaming%20pc%20home/1/pg/pc.main Me and Sithvid both bought an identical rig from these guys last year. They have good customer service, delivery, aftercare support etc etc.
Title: Rig me!
Post by: Toxteth on July 23, 2010, 04:56:56 PM
Well guys, I bought that rig, pieced it together and it's working a charm.

A question though. I didn't buy a new HD as I thought I would use my current one, but install windows 7 over the top of it. Now you probably know going from XP to win 7 is a bit of a mission.

Is it worth me writing it over my current HD or should I just grab a new one and transfer all my software over afterwards? What I was planning on doing was saving all my docs and software onto me external HD, then reinstall it all onto the HD once it has win7 on.

Otherwise I was going to invest in something like a 1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ, leave in the old HD as a backup HD, and then transfer all the software over.

Any thoughts? BTW my current HD is 300GB and about 3 yr old.
Title: Rig me!
Post by: RizZy on July 23, 2010, 07:35:45 PM
Buy another one, but that's just me, I've ended up with 4 drives in my current rig - I brought a 1tb hdd just because I could, I remember thinking 30gb was massive back in the day, so it had to be done.

Put windows on the smaller drive & everything else on t'other is what I'd do, hdd's are so cheap now it's no big deal to buy a few & spread things around.
Title: Rig me!
Post by: kregoron on July 24, 2010, 10:27:15 AM
buy a new drive, the F3 spinpoints are nice and fast
Title: Rig me!
Post by: Toxteth on July 24, 2010, 08:02:29 PM
Just ordered a 1TB F3 Spinpoint.

What would be the advantage of having the new copy of windows on the old drive just out of interest? I'm also wondering how I could transfer all my stuff over to the new one?

I was thinking just install completely fresh onto the new drive, then copy over what I want and just use the old one as a backup disk or keep my media stuff there. What would you guys recommend?
Title: Rig me!
Post by: RizZy on July 25, 2010, 08:19:51 AM
I just like to spread things around a few drives, I had my C drive die before but the only thing that was on it was windows & a few other bits & bobs - so getting everything back up & running wasn't such a big deal.

I usually stick the swap file on a different drive to windows too, I don't know how much difference it makes these days with newer cpu's & more ram, but old habits die hard.

Set stuff up however you fancy Tox, I don't think it matters that much, it's all just down to personal preference.