just been on a server and i was being gunned down from halfway across the map, i'd call that cheating would'nt u?
Apparently (according to another thread) there have been a load of bans for an aimbot recently. One must have just got released or something...I hope it will die down. This wouldn't happen on a VAC server, punkbuster is the Norton Anti-Virus of the anticheat community. Slow, bulky, doesn't actually stop what it needs to half the time, and more often that not it's stopping legitimate players. I hope MoH doesn't use it.
Quote from: kracau;316677just been on a server and i was being gunned down from halfway across the map, i'd call that cheating would'nt u?
What map? And what weapon?
I know that from half way accross the map, if you have been spotted by a sniper that I can easily put rounds on you with an m16 if the triangle is active.
No cheating,its just teamwork.
it was with a hand gun on the map with the oil pipeline
Quote from: kracau;316700it was with a hand gun on the map with the oil pipeline
o... In that case then..lol
Yes I've killed snipers with the six shot handgun on Atacama Desert, I was half way between C and B saw a few shots ringing out at me, ran to the Blue cargo crate at B, spotted him in the A base, front building on left in top window, spot him so I can keep tabs at where he is (and makes it easier to aim at) fired about 3/4 shots, final one a headshot and the sniper was dead :)
Basically if you can see someone you can kill them. If I had been using a neostat (sp? bullpup shotgun) with the right add ons it could have been a one shot kill.
I agree with Dewey.
However unrealistic it is, it can be done.
Our cheat detection in Wolfcon is high up (believe 70%). I will be looking at PB Ban Streaming etc. which can be managed in the front end.
Good point Ninja - obviously a lot of the guns, range and damage in BC2 isn't realistic, I mean I've been taken out by the 870CS shotgun from massive distances, but with the long range shells in it... its like a sniper rifle.
Quote from: Dewey;316778Good point Ninja - obviously a lot of the guns, range and damage in BC2 isn't realistic, I mean I've been taken out by the 870CS shotgun from massive distances, but with the long range shells in it... its like a sniper rifle.
Possibly my biggest annoyance in BC2:sideways:
That shotty is ridiculous:taz:
Blunt - you think thats bad - theres a reason Magnus and Paddy like the Ns2000- its ridiculously deadly and powerful, one shot sniper kills from ridiculous ranges.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti_1rPwYoAQ
Me I prefer my kills close up - so I go for the Saiga with 12 rounds - it can decimate a squad.
Current weapon of choice MG3 *oh lordy lordy*
can we ban certain weapons from out server? ns2000 seems indeed redicoulous.
Quote from: Le Rouge;316805can we ban certain weapons from out server? ns2000 seems indeed redicoulous.
I think if you begin with restrict certain weapons, then where is the end doing this?
For me as i get killed by the NS2000, i pick next round the snipergun and try to take the person out.
A game like BC2 i think you cant ban any weapon, but that are my thoughts bout it.
Quote from: Le Rouge;316805can we ban certain weapons from out server? ns2000 seems indeed redicoulous.
Rather than banning weapons, why not practice and learn how to use them - this also helps you play better against them and find their weaknesses. The NS2000 for example isn't very good close up.
Quote from: KKND;316808For me as i get killed by [strike]the NS2000[/strike] a sniper, i pick up [strike]next round[/strike] the [strike]snipergun[/strike] NS2000 and [strike]try to[/strike] take the person out.
Snipers should be stabbed or NS2000ed the only other course of action is to ban them.
Quote from: big-paddy;316839Snipers should be stabbed or NS2000ed the only other course of action is to ban them.
That is true - Recon who just sit for the entire game miles from anywhere (including their base) deserve to be shot, I have been know to highlight snipers on my own side who do this - they perform no useful function...
Recons with shotties however are positive lovely :) and should be encouraged.
Some servers I've played on are really well managed and ban players for hacking. Heck, I even got banned from a server as the admin thought I was hacking. I went to their forums and explaind a bit and got unbanned from that server. Seems that that server had some Punkbuster admins on and they checked logfiles and all and my ID's from the Battlefield games. Next time I was on that server they told me they'd be spectating me lol.
Just use the N2000 yourself and try it out.
We had to ban some guy last night for using an aimbot.
Once again our server failed to automatically pick it up :(
Quote from: Dewey;316849That is true - Recon who just sit for the entire game miles from anywhere (including their base) deserve to be shot, I have been know to highlight snipers on my own side who do this - they perform no useful function...
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Hi Dewey, Don't 100% agree with you m8, For example...
My play style is to charge at the Mcon's and hope that I can shoot faster than the other guy if our paths cross. If I have Rizzy in my squad I know that he will be sat well back sniping away supporting me.
Not only that but he will also spot the targets in front giving me/the team the advantage we need. This has definutly given us the advantage to take the mcon numerouse times.
Only downside is that in this role you do loose the team mate for close support/someone to spawn on.
Quote from: Naldo;316876We had to ban some guy last night for using an aimbot.
Once again our server failed to automatically pick it up :(
Score 37/2 he had...
Hi folks...
I'll be stepping up the hax prevention on the server tonight. Thanks for the good work..
Quote from: Naldo;316876We had to ban some guy last night for using an aimbot.
Once again our server failed to automatically pick it up :(
That was the dude called THEFUNHOUSE wasnt it? When I had my little refreshment break (Thanx EA) I was watching wolfspawn log and saw him using the M24 and every kill was a headshot, when I rejoined it seems he had gone, now I know why.
Quote from: Naldo;316877Hi Dewey, Don't 100% agree with you m8, For example...
My play style is to charge at the Mcon's and hope that I can shoot faster than the other guy if our paths cross. If I have Rizzy in my squad I know that he will be sat well back sniping away supporting me.
Not only that but he will also spot the targets in front giving me/the team the advantage we need. This has definitely given us the advantage to take the mcon numerous times.
Only downside is that in this role you do loose the team mate for close support/someone to spawn on.
A sniper can be a useful addition to a squad/team if he actually plays as a team member & doesn't just try to get an awesome score, my no1 priority is to spot when I snipe, then I worry about everything else, depending on the map I'm also quite happy to take something other than a sniper rifle & spam motion mines which can be very very helpfull too.
Quote from: KKND;316878Score 37/2 he had...
PC Games makers would do well to take a look at CS for how to make an online game, just the simple thing of not being able to spec in 1st person makes such a difference in being able to spot a cheat, luckily for us last night the guy was so obvious even just following him around you could see what he was upto.
Here watch the movies on this site,it says it all Aimbot,Wallhack ect
http://bc2hacks.blogspot.com/
That guy from yesterday had it all.
For me its all about getting the most out of each class. If Rizzy is sniping from afar, he can't use motion detectors (which are very useful especially when attacking a flag/mcon), you can't spawn on him (which could mean the difference when taking a flag/mcon down) he won't be able to see every thing, he certainly won't be able to spot everything, and if he's in the same position he's easy to take out and to avoid his shots. Also if the mcon is in a house or the flag is near cover mr sniper isn't going to be able take you out once he's used his mortar strike.
So while I can see some advantages I think these are outweighed by having another body on the ground - I'd much rather have a recon guy on the flag with me, with a shotgun/motion detectors. The spawn point alone is so important IMO you can't afford to have a 1/4 of your team potentially just spotting and not being able to take the objective.
Rizzy - but any class can spot so why do you need a sniper to do that? Every player I see I spot as does the rest of BIG.
At the end of the day theres no right or wrong its just dependent on your style of play and how it fits in with the loadout of your squad - I prefer aggressive recons :)
Only downside is that in this role you do lose the team mate for close support/someone to spawn on.
Quote from: Dewey;316905For me its all about getting the most out of each class. If Rizzy is sniping from afar, he can't use motion detectors (which are very useful especially when attacking a flag/mcon), you can't spawn on him (which could mean the difference when taking a flag/mcon down) he won't be able to see every thing, he certainly won't be able to spot everything, and if he's in the same position he's easy to take out and to avoid his shots. Also if the mcon is in a house or the flag is near cover mr sniper isn't going to be able take you out once he's used his mortar strike.
+1
Often enough when a team losses, is because it had too many snipers frag hunting.
Agreed Rouge!
We've all been on servers, you join a squad, and you see your team mates are miles away from the action, and shock horror theres often a 2 or 3 of them together - I mean why? Get in amongst it and take a flag :)
Quote from: Le Rouge;316909+1
Often enough when a team losses, is because it had too many snipers frag hunting.
Saturday-evening while playing on one of my regular servers there was some weird hacking going on. Me and others from our side kept spawning on the enemies site where we got instakilled. Weirdest thing I ever saw. Funny thing is that a guy from the other side was accusing me of hacking while I got killed like 5 times in a row. ROFL
For me it depends when I'll go sniping and such, usually on dMw it's rushing for me as I really like to catch some defenders offguard.