As it is getting increasingly difficult to keep the RGT (Raid Group on Thursday, i.e. the current main raid) thread clean, I thought I would start this one for people to shout out if they are interested in joining an alt/non-raid main raid group which would likely raid on Wednesday and/or Friday/Monday nights.
When you post in the thread, please make sure you state:
TOON NAME, CLASS & ROLEE.g. Legolei, Hunter, Ranged DPS
Quote from: Legolei;320889I would like to join a second raid group if the pace of the group would be more relaxed as the main group.
Legolei, Hunter, Ranged DPS
Registered Interest from:Tanks:Slushid, Druid, Tank
HealersDreaman, Shaman, Resto Healer
Lynxeffect, Priest, Disc Healer
Amberleigh, Priest, Disc Healer
Ranged DPSLegolei, Hunter, Ranged DPS
Sithvid, Druid, Ranged dps
Melee DPSVladic, Warrior, Melee DPS
Pälsboll, Druid, Melee DPS
Dreaman, Shaman, Resto Healer.
Legolei, Hunter, Ranged DPS
Slushid, Druid, Tank
Sithvid, Druid, Boomkin ranged dps
can i bump this to keep it visible...
Lynxeffect, Priest, Healer
Updated to OP.
Disc or holy Lynx?
Discipline
Pälsboll druidcat melee dps
At the moment we have 1 tank, 2 healers and 2 dps - and this does not a raid group make.
HOWEVER, we are serious about starting this raid group (RGW) and want your support for it. If we do not get it from within the guild then perhaps we'll have to recruit from outside to fill the spots.
Initially we hope to run it for one night per week, starting on the Wednesday night. We'll develop it from there and see how it progresses. At the moment we intend to apply our normal DKP rules to RGW.
We need your support to get this raid group off the ground, so if you want to raid and can make (initially) a Wednesday night commitment, then please sign up.
Yep I am interested in helping out and getting back to raiding but my gear is not that good at the mo.
Jstar shaman melee dps (better gear) & healer.
I am hesitant to sign up, as i'm afraid it will not meet the sort of progress i wanna do.
Quote from: Deminion;321107I am hesitant to sign up, as i'm afraid it will not meet the sort of progress i wanna do.
I agree with you, however its better to sign up then not raid at all, I am quite sure that when we get the people(from in guild right now or to be recruited) we will find more days to raid. Atleast thats what I hope, the wednesday raid is just a test trying to get the people on(gotta start somewhere right).
Quote from: Deminion;321107I am hesitant to sign up, as i'm afraid it will not meet the sort of progress i wanna do.
Im shaking my head in disbelief.
From what I know/guessed, you didnt have the time/interest in being a full-time raider (2-3 nights a week).
Then you thought... WTH, Im gonna try get a spot.
We have 3 tanks with high attendance. No spot available
We have 4 melee with medium attendance. No spot available.
You now get a chance to raid, but think the group is not pro enough for you?
Only want to raid with the stars, are we? Get carried by officers and high attendance raiders?
This is your (not only Demi, but also Amber, Myth and everyone else) chance to do what the rest of us have been doing. Kill raid bosses!
Watch videos, read tacts, and discuss em all. With guildies! No pug, no bleh... Just pure win!
The guild actually sets a goal, and the goal is RGW, and you dont even bother.
And you guys ask yourselves why you are left out.
You are
STILL (read TLs posts on raid attendance) leaving yourselves out! :-D
Quote from: Slush;321122Im shaking my head in disbelief.
From what I know/guessed, you didnt have the time/interest in being a full-time raider (2-3 nights a week).
Then you thought... WTH, Im gonna try get a spot.
We have 3 tanks with high attendance. No spot available
We have 4 melee with medium attendance. No spot available.
You now get a chance to raid, but think the group is not pro enough for you?
Only want to raid with the stars, are we? Get carried by officers and high attendance raiders?
This is your (not only Demi, but also Amber, Myth and everyone else) chance to do what the rest of us have been doing. Kill raid bosses!
Watch videos, read tacts, and discuss em all. With guildies! No pug, no bleh... Just pure win!
The guild actually sets a goal, and the goal is RGW, and you dont even bother.
And you guys ask yourselves why you are left out.
You are STILL (read TLs posts on raid attendance) leaving yourselves out! :-D
Wauv, talk about making assumptions on a simple post.
Yes i lost interest in raiding, due to certain things, which have been dealt with through the right channels.
I never said i wouldn't do RGW, just that i'm hesitant, mostly due to the way it have been formulated. I read it like it's only 1 night a week, and i just want more than that.
And regards to the part of your post i highlighted. Are you really trying to call me out as a slacker? I've never have the intention of not doing my bit, even going OS my aim is always to beat the main-speccs.
Quote from: Deminion;321134Wauv, talk about making assumptions on a simple post.
Well, you asked for it. Wanting to raid, then not wanting to raid, then wanting to raid, then maybe not wanting to raid because progress wont fit you makes people wonder mate. :-)
Quote from: Deminion;321134And regards to the part of your post i highlighted. Are you really trying to call me out as a slacker? I've never have the intention of not doing my bit, even going OS my aim is always to beat the main-speccs.
Good. :-) And noone asks anything else.
@Demi, like said before dont expect it to stay on just wednesdays, IIRC its a test to see if we can get a second raid going. When this raid gets off the ground, where we could use you atm, then the next step is to spread it on multiple days. Atleast thats what I hope, caus IMO 1 day raiding has no use.
Arctic has it right. If I can clarify a little more:
We need to see if interest in a second raid group is there and what if anything we need to recruit to fill it.
A raid group for one night per week allows us to get earlier commitment, which then allows us to build to 2 or more nights as required. Getting commitment for 3 nights per week from scratch is going to be difficult if alts are also involved as it leads to burn out, whereas starting one one night and then recruiting/growing and reducing reliance on alts over time allows us to grow the raid more effectively.
We anticipate the RGW would expand into Monday evenings, Friday night also remains a possibility (we assumed that Saturday would be a no go!).
So in total, we would expect it to evolve fairly quickly from 1 night to 2 per week.
Depending on how RGW evolves, we then have options to move RGW to 3 nights per week, or consider combining it with RGT to form one 25 man, 3 nights per week raid group for example, but that's the future and there's a lot to get sorted first.
Well if people don't care they don't normally get wound up over things.... so I'm guessing we can turn this into + energy.
With a few more signed up it could evolve like wot he (TL) said and who knows 25 mans etc etc.
So if your interested sign up and PM TL if u can take on any additional responsibilities, like attendance, loot master...
fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
Its a guild thing.
stick my name down, as thursdays are very akward for me- as i have my daugher that evening, so, the game comes a loong 2nd place
as for sunday/ tues days- i`m ok with them, if i`m listed
Vladic - warrior - melee DPS
Pälsboll druid meleeDPS
Quote from: pälsboll;321245Pälsboll druid meleeDPS
oh god no the kitteh is coming!!!!
OP updated to here.
Still need a few more either from guild or via recruitment. In particular, tanks are needed.
Looks good atm, need to pull Demi into his tank spec and get him to signup
Bump.
Really Need 1 more Tank and 1 more ranged DPS.
Update to follow. Who when where why etc...
We're hoping to speak to those interested in running this over the coming 7 days. This will give a bit more opportunity for recruitment (from within the guild or outside) and also for us to appoint people to lead the raid and run DKP, be Master Looter etc. With luck we'll be ready to start this with effect from 23rd March.
after som consideration, i'll be ready to give this a go, got a couple of toons that's geared decently.
Deminion: Prot/Fury
Arcanedem: Arcane/Fire
Treedem: Resto/Balance
Take your pick at what will be needed the most
Icehawky - shadowpriest
Not able yet as i am still lvl'ing it up to 85 and needs some gear at that point, but when he is ready i am willing to help out when i am avail.
So more like a backup then a main toon for rg2.
Mythmaker - mage (ranged dps ftw! )
I will be ready and after a few bits are sorted out i can raid on weds with resto/b00m dr00d in about 2wks.....
Also can help out with food and pots...
hermioneg ---> Mage
I hope I have understood how it works ...
I read in another post that the invites are already in the calendar. Count me as a reserve if possible.
Quote from: hermioneg;321814hermioneg ---> Mage
I hope I have understood how it works ...
I read in another post that the invites are already in the calendar. Count me as a reserve if possible.
You're not too late Hermioneg, just show up on the night and pester Jas for a calendar invite!
already done:)
We have 7 or 8 confirmed now need a few more.
I'll try to be online tomorrow night. If anything i'll be able to be with you on Zaul (DK) as dps or tank.
Im ready for tonight :) I wrote it in section RGW on monday but gona confire here too :)
this monday is to early, we are still trying to fill in the last spots;)
What are we missing, thought we had everyone good to go? I have my healer prepped for example.
We can give it a go, there are no invites out tho.
Made event on calendar.
i can't be there tonight, gonna do some cleaning
Hiya,
I'm all in for raiding. Will be there as many as work and life allow.
Im ready for Wensday :)
is there gona be calendar inv or?
Should be aye.
dnt get inv ...is np im gona be online and ready for raid :)
Keep in mind that events set up before you joined may not show up in your calendar until you bug Drae to add you!
Caus of the recruitment and new players from inguild joining all the time it sometimes happens we miss some people, especially caus we copy the event to other days. I am sorry for this, but im glad you noticed, I will try to remember when I get home, if not please help me :)
Dnt worry m8 :)
Magmaw & Omnitron down. Good progress on Conclave! :)
Another great RGW run.
Thanks for your patience with the DKP, the tables will be updated soon...
Yup really good run, I see 2 more kills on monday:)
I was a bit surprised by the choice of trying to kill the Conclave. I was prepared for Maloriak as the next new boss to kill since we tried it on the previous run.
Would it be possible to announce the new bosses we are going to try that week before the wednesday raid? If they are on the forums around 17:00 on wednesday, it gives some time to look up the fight.
W00t! Great job guys! :-D Keep up the good work!
Quote from: Legolei;323237I was a bit surprised by the choice of trying to kill the Conclave. I was prepared for Maloriak as the next new boss to kill since we tried it on the previous run.
Would it be possible to announce the new bosses we are going to try that week before the wednesday raid? If they are on the forums around 17:00 on wednesday, it gives some time to look up the fight.
Yeah i agree with Lego. It would be interesting if we know wich bosses we would attempt in advance so we can check tacts before the raid.
And grtz to everyone for downing magmaw and omnotron again. I had fun :)
@lego, sorry for this but i had a talk with TL about Halfus and he came up with conclave, because it has no trash and is a easy boss i decided to follow that advice.
Basicly the kill order for cata is magmaw>omni>halfus/conclave>maloriak/valiona>atramedes>chimaeron>council>chogall>al akir> nefarian
Yep blame me, Conclave is significantly easier than Halfus imo. Halfus varies from moderate-medium depending on the combo you get. I figured with the group we had we would have far less trouble with Conclave than Halfus. It's a simple fight with no trash and if you'd gone to Halfus then by the time you had done the trash you might only have had time for a couple of pulls. Maloriak is significantly harder than either Halfus or Conclave.
As for which fights to be prepared for, I think the message from the above is that people had different ideas as to where they thought they might be going, but nobody actually knew. So the learning point is probably for the RLs to try to announce the raid goal for the week earlier so that people can be prepared.
HOWEVER, and here's the rub, you go to the bosses you have the group for, despite the raid goal/plan. For example, I'd not be as keen doing a Halfus with 3 melee dps compared to say a Conclave with 3 melee dps. So the answer to which boss you should prepare for is all the logical 'next' bosses, probably in an order somewhat similar to the list below (which is my own subjective boss order list):
Magmaw - KILLED
Omnitron - KILLED
Conclave of Wind - be prepared
Halfus Wyrmbreaker - be prepared
Valiona and Theralion - be prepared
Maloriak - be prepared
Atramedes
Chimaeron
Council
Cho'gall
Al'Akir
Nefarian
Every time you kill a new boss, add the next boss on the list to the 'be prepared' block. It is quite possible to down a couple of new bosses in a night, so you need to be prepared for several, not just one boss.
Quote from: TeaLeaf;323279Yep blame me
Nah, I don't mind going to a boss I didn't expect, just don't like going unprepared.
Quote from: TeaLeaf;323279So the answer to which boss you should prepare for is all the logical 'next' bosses, probably in an order somewhat similar to the list below (which is my own subjective boss order list):
Magmaw - KILLED
Omnitron - KILLED
Conclave of Wind - be prepared
Halfus Wyrmbreaker - be prepared
Valiona and Theralion - be prepared
Maloriak - be prepared
Atramedes
Chimaeron
Council
Cho'gall
Al'Akir
Nefarian
A list like this would be perfect. With one adjustment: with RGW we also killed Halfus :thumbsup:
So I better start preparing/fresh up Conclave, V&T, Maloriak and Atramedes. :norty:
Also an idea for our new raiders amongst us, ask your fellow class raiders if they have some pointers for you to look out for etc. stuff that you don't see on a vid.
I said this as i noticed with a rgw raid the melee had some issues with a certain fight, so i said some stuff about how i am solving that problem etc. And this way you can help eachother aswell.
Quote from: Legolei;323296A list like this would be perfect. With one adjustment: with RGW we also killed Halfus :thumbsup:
Oops! Sorry!
Here's an updated one :biggrin:
Quote from: RGW Boss ListMagmaw - KILLED
Omnitron - KILLED
Halfus Wyrmbreaker - KILLED
Conclave of Wind - be prepared
Valiona and Theralion - be prepared
Maloriak - be prepared
Atramedes - be prepared
Chimaeron
Council
Cho'gall
Al'Akir
Nefarian
Bump :) please, we also got V&T down.