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Forum Archive 2023 => Console Games => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Playstation 4/3 => Topic started by: ArithonUK on April 28, 2011, 02:25:58 PM

Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: ArithonUK on April 28, 2011, 02:25:58 PM
I have changed by password for all websites I use with my "Arithon" email and ID.
I am also considering canceling my VISA debit card and getting a new one issued.

What are you guys doing?

Quote"Sony needs to accept that they no longer own and control the PS3 when they sell it to you. Notice it's only PSN that gave away all your personal data, not Xbox Live when the 360 was hacked, not iTunes when the iPhone was jailbroken, and not GMail when Android was rooted. Because other companies aren't crazy."
Geohotz
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: Shadowsong on April 28, 2011, 05:17:01 PM
Well, luckily I don't have a CC (not at all) but the part where they got my personal information kinda sucks.
I can't even remember my PSN login (well not the password) but as far as I know I haven't used it for anything else (otherwise I would remember my password).

I guess I have to change a few passwords just to be "safe".
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: T-Bag on April 28, 2011, 09:59:48 PM
Key is if you used the same password for the email linked to PSN as you did for PSN you'll need to change that. Card Details I imagine CC companies are being super careful now. I had something flag on my card a few weeks back (a legitimate purchase), but I guess they'll be flagging far more in the next couple of weeks. I don't use PSN myself, but my housemate has a PS3 so I've been watching as it develops so I can say "HA - should be a PC gamer."

Not that that is risk free.
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: Shadowsong on April 30, 2011, 10:07:10 AM
The CC part is actualy the least of problems I guess. Any fraud with a CC that is not caused by you, you simply get your money back. Or you can block the CC and get a new one. But personal information...they know almost everything, where you live, your age and some cases they can even see how much money you spend on PSN (for me that's not much, I always use pre-paid cards). Unless you move to a new home, they know exactly where you live. And that is the most worrying part.
(also had a few 'dummy' accounts, good luck finding Gunlane 44 :P)

And "should be PC gamer" , let's not forget the very thing PSN ran on where PC's (servers, but they are PC's as well, it doesn't run on PS3's). Linux and Apache (as far as I understood). PC gamers propably got more dangers to endure than console gamers (more vulnerable to phising and scams from visiting websites, and certain services can also be hacked just like PSN).

Al in al it doesn't matter if it is PSN, or Xboxlife or whatever service got hacked, in every case it would suck because you lose your personal information to a bunch of criminals and there is nothing you can do about it. (not giving personal information is not an option, because goverment services can also be hacked, and they even got more personal information).
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: kregoron on May 08, 2011, 07:42:19 AM
Atleast your getting two free games ;)

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/05/06/scee-identity-theft-protection-offering/
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: ArithonUK on May 08, 2011, 12:17:10 PM
Quote from: kregoron;324488Atleast your getting two free games ;)

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/05/06/scee-identity-theft-protection-offering/

The ID protection is for USA only. Nice.

And do you want to take bets that the "free trial" of PSN+ and the two "free" games require you to sign up for PSN+, which (you guessed it) requires credit card details..... No chance.

PSN used to be a mostly free service with some purchasable downloads. Then SONY got greedy and made it a two-tier "them and us" service where all the demos and worthwhile stuff was on PSN+ only. Offering a "free trial" is only adding insult to injury.

PC Gamers are not unscathed either, as it looks like SONY left the bedroom windows open on their MMO games too (Marvel online, Everquest, etc.) so all those bank details are in the wind as well.

Maybe if SONY didn't spend so much money on lawyers to crucify the guy who jail-broke the PS3, they could have spent some time & money on security. i.e. don't keep our banks details on the PSN servers!!!
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: kregoron on May 08, 2011, 12:49:03 PM
Quote from: ArithonUK;324503The ID protection is for USA only. Nice.

PC Gamers are not unscathed either, as it looks like SONY left the bedroom windows open on their MMO games too (Marvel online, Everquest, etc.) so all those bank details are in the wind as well.
Maybe if SONY didn't spend so much money on lawyers to crucify the guy who jail-broke the PS3, they could have spent some time & money on security. i.e. don't keep our banks details on the PSN servers!!!
I agree
I used to play SWG for a SHORT while, so they probably got my details -.- Thank god the visa used for that died long ago ;)
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: kregoron on May 09, 2011, 11:28:07 AM
Another month and PSN is probably running again
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: smilodon on May 09, 2011, 11:50:35 AM
It may run but I doubt I'll go back. Fortunately I only had a PSP and never bought anything through the PSN. I checked and registered with a load of fake details just to get the free PSP themes and comics.

While the new PSN is probably going to be unbelievably secure from now on they messed up. And when they messed up the were more w2orried about their public image and their own damage limitation than telling the world about what had happened. They put their profit ahead of my personal security. How different to the way Lastpass handled their security issues. I imagine the Xbox and Nintendo folk are looking forward to a busy and productive summer.
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: Tutonic on May 09, 2011, 12:08:33 PM
I was lucky in a sense that the only credit card details I had ever used on my PS3, expired last month - so no need to cancel anything.

That said, it's damaged my trust in Sony enough that I doubt I'll be buying anything through their systems again.

Anyone can get hacked and lose customer data, but in attempting to keep quiet about the problem they've permanently destroyed their reputation in my eyes.
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: kregoron on May 09, 2011, 12:24:32 PM
Sony rep is down by a century or so, and even more with them getting hacked again this morning
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: Tutonic on May 17, 2011, 07:38:22 AM
Well, at least we'll be getting some free games when the PlayStation Store comes back online:

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/05/16/details-of-the-welcome-back-programme-for-scee-users-2/
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: JonnyAppleSeed on May 18, 2011, 02:47:20 PM

Ill probs go wipeout but then im at a loss
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: Jewelz^ on May 18, 2011, 03:47:41 PM
LittleBigPlanet isnt so bad if your the creative type, and i dont know what this wipeout is like but the original wipeout on Playstation1 was awesome!
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: Tutonic on May 18, 2011, 03:51:47 PM
Infamous, Wipeout and Dead Nation are all worth a go.
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: ArithonUK on May 18, 2011, 05:57:52 PM
And they've been hacked again. Today. Details on PC Pro (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/security/367453/hackers-breach-sonys-password-reset-system).
Title: PSN Hack - what are you doing about it?
Post by: smilodon on May 18, 2011, 07:35:34 PM
QuoteThe website suggested that users should move to secure their accounts by creating a completely new email, that is used exclusively for the PlayStation Network, and switching PSN account details to use this new email.

This has to be the most sensible idea going. If for this reason only get a domain name of your own. Then use a unique e-mail for each account you open. I have one unique e-mail for Amazon, one for Steam, one for Blizzard etc. ect. Each company only knows me by that single unique email address which I never register with anyone else. All the scam emails that come to me supposedly from Blizzard asking me to reset my WOW account use the wrong email and so I know they are scams. Only Blizzard actually uses the right email. Likewise my PSN account has a unique email associated with it, which I changed the day the hacking story broke. So although I never registered a credit card or my address or any useful personal information with Sony, the email they might have given away to hackers is actually now dead and buried.

Domains for email use cost buttons a year, it's well worth the small investment. IMHO.