Less addons make it easier to play/Raid, Discuss :D
Personal opinion as i use a basic layour of the blizzard UI and raid compontents with DBM,Omen and recount in my bottom right corner, very minimal set up and causes me no issues.
I thought you had Recount filling the entire middle of your screen:narnar:
I think it depends what class you play and what role you play in the raid. To answer your question though, as a general rule even a basic UI upgrade makes the game easier to play/raid as the default UI does not deliver a lot of things as clearly as a custom UI.
generally speeking I have a totally custom UI, but it is usually and is now fairly clear and minimal
If anyone can play a DOT class really well with a default UI then I bow to their greater skill. :worship:
nah demi ive got recount just below omen in bottom right corner, and im alright using the default UI as my rotation is stored on my numbered keys with anything extra above...yes im a clicker :D i have seen a few addons ive considered trying to use such as an extra rage bar at bottom of my screen (i cant see numbers on mine unless i mouse over it) but i generally know when its over 65 anyway (this is for part of my rotation)
Quote from: TeaLeaf;329479If anyone can play a DOT class really well with a default UI then I bow to their greater skill. :worship:
Always played my warlock with the default UI as affliction with good results. For some reason I struggle with an SP maintaining dots on >1 target - mainly as the buttons dont work probably after casting VB SW: P - it's like the GCD swirl around the buttons fails.
+1 for minimal UIs. As little screen space occupied as needed imo. Though ofc that doesnt have to mean less addons, just less space taken by them.
Quote from: Twisted;329488For some reason I struggle with an SP maintaining dots on >1 target - mainly as the buttons dont work probably after casting VB SW: P - it's like the GCD swirl around the buttons fails.
Sounds like you need a custom UI. :P
Quote from: sheepy;329475generally speeking I have a totally custom UI, but it is usually and is now fairly clear and minimal
Quote from: Azunai;329491+1 for minimal UIs. As little screen space occupied as needed imo. Though ofc that doesnt have to mean less addons, just less space taken by them.
and +1 for what the Sheepster and Az have said.
The key to me is the UI's ability to pass on relevant data to you in a timely fashion whilst still allowing you a good clear view of the environment. Everything on my UI (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?33448-DMR-gt-Baleroc&p=329485#post329485) is centred around where my eyes will focused - near my feet and on my timers.
In my opinion this is where most raiders fail, they might have the info on their UI somewhere, but it is usually not in a place where they will immediately absorb the information without conscious effort. That's the difference between a custom UI and the standard UI. The degree of customisation needed changes from class to class and with roles, but I'd go so far as to say a good UI will always improve the player's raid performance.
And as Az said, it's not necessarily about the number of addons, but certainly how you organise them and deploy them.
For the record, this is my current UI addon list:
ArkInventory
Auctionator
Bartender4
BigBrother
Clique
DXE (Deus Vox Boss Mod)
eePanels2
Elkano's BuffBars
EQcompare
ForteXorcist II
Grid
GTFO
Pitbull4
Postal
Prat
Quartz
RaidComp
RatingBuster
Skada
Squeenix
TidyPlates
TooManyAddons
WebDKP
WhoDrop
Xloot
I use the standard UI interface <.<
In all seriousness, that scares the hell out of me! :blink:
Oh, wait a sec, we're in different raid grups. In which case I'm fine with it :biggrin: :thumbsup:
guess how much better I would be if I had a custom one /flex
edit: Ohh nice ninja edit TL, I seriously have no trouble with this Interface, but then I dont know how good a custom one will be.
Quote from: Arcticfire;329504guess how much better I would be if I had a custom one /flex
Show us :norty:
i use:
bartender
omen
recount
tidy plates
gatherer
atlasloot
I try and try but they just keep pulling me in. I use:
Xperl (3/4 of addon disabled)
Atlas_Loot (no need for atlas with the istance maps)
Bartender
TidyPlates
DBM
Quartz
DoTimer
AutoRepair
CrapAway (auto sells all grey items in your inventory)
Gatherer
Vengence Status
Recount
Omen
Postal
Decursive
DrDamage
Power Auras Classic
TomTom
NPC Scan
my UI is very simply...
GTFO (installed today)
QUARTZ
RECOUNT
SHEEPMONITOR
SPELLSTEALER
DBM
COMBUSTION HELPER (in old fire spec)
few addons ;D
TL, your UI is visible on the video of the balroc kill!
respect! really impressing!
very visible when watching the video, that it gives by far more information about what is going on than my stupid setup. problem is: i dont have a clue how to finetune an ui like that! this is mp a growing process and at one day it looks like that. I always failed to understand the real possiblities of these tools. maybe we should have one day a "how to make a good ui" lesson instead of a raid. I guess there are many who would do better when having such tool.
I will definitely try to work myself deeper into that.
Quote from: Noréia;329546problem is: i dont have a clue how to finetune an ui like that! this is mp a growing process and at one day it looks like that. I always failed to understand the real possiblities of these tools. maybe we should have one day a "how to make a good ui" lesson instead of a raid. I guess there are many who would do better when having such tool.
I'm very happy to offer this help to anyone who needs it and I am sure we have other equally if not more capable people in the guild who could also help other members take that first step into the world of custom UIs. It does not take long to configure a UI and it is not the black art that some think it might be, it's remarkably simple and often just a case of installing and trying something.
Grab me on TS and let's agree a time when we can both commit an hour to talking it through and setting up your UI.
In advance of that TS chat you need to start thinking about what info you need to know in combat, what info is nice to know, and what info is an out of combat luxury. You also must have an idea of where your eyes tend to be focused during combat, so have a think about it - and it is different for different classes/roles - where your eyes naturally focus will have some bearing on where you put the key elements of your custom UI.