Dead Men Walking

dMw Chit Chat => The Beer Bar => Seriously though ... => Topic started by: Benny on August 11, 2011, 08:11:49 PM

Title: m1 hard shoulder
Post by: Benny on August 11, 2011, 08:11:49 PM
Give the man a job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY_CzPD2cYs&feature=player_detailpage
Title: m1 hard shoulder
Post by: TheDvEight on August 11, 2011, 08:42:00 PM
This man is awesome but the people doing it are not
Title: m1 hard shoulder
Post by: Blunt on August 11, 2011, 09:12:31 PM
The guy deserves a medal
having often been at the back of these queues in my fire engine, struggling to squeeze through, I endorse his efforts to embarrass the idiots.
Also, check out the legs @ 6:14 ...giggidy
Title: m1 hard shoulder
Post by: kregoron on August 12, 2011, 09:35:07 AM
Just brilliant, they should all have their licenses revoked for using the emergency lane
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Post by: ArithonUK on August 12, 2011, 11:04:25 AM
These are the same people who come on TV and rationalise the London  looters as "disaffected youth" rather than "thieves". Responsibility?  Conscience? No, it's just "me! me! me!"

Give the M1 emergency services crew one of these so they can drive down the hard shoulder regardless...
[video=youtube;V-fWN0FmcIU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-fWN0FmcIU[/video]
Title: m1 hard shoulder
Post by: T-Bag on August 12, 2011, 05:15:38 PM
Saw this video on another forum and on Facebook. It's going a bit viral. People are ****ed off at people who think they can break the rules that everyone else sticks to when it suits them. There are laws in place for a reason, and they should be enforced. If the police and courts don't find it cost effective to pursue prosecution then the government should change the law to make it cheaper to enforce or legal. Laws shouldn't just be ignored. It shouldn't just be up to the public to try and make people behave sensibly.
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Post by: sulky_uk on August 12, 2011, 05:55:22 PM
Quote from: Blunt;330777Also, check out the legs @ 6:14 ...giggidy

oh yes but, bobfoc..............(body of baywatch, face of crimewatch)
Title: m1 hard shoulder
Post by: DarkAngel on August 14, 2011, 03:17:10 PM
Awesome, and well done to that lad! Just a shame the police can't prosecute from the video....
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Post by: smilodon on August 14, 2011, 05:15:53 PM
Arrggghhhh. I just can't help myself sometimes. Inside this mild mannered me is a mighty pedant trying to get out. Points to him for putting people who don't think about the consequences of what they do in a car on the spot. Watching someone in the wrong squirm is a lot of fun, unless that someone is me of course.

But the pedantic sod in me says: Walking on the motorway an offence under the road Traffic Act sect 17, Motorway Traffic(England & Wales)R 1982

Due to the blocked emergency lane they might send a motorcycle police officer or paramedic, which could filter through the stationary traffic. What happens if they knocks down some bloke with a camcorder wandering about the motorway?

It's usual for emergency vehicles to get to an accident by the fastest route. On a closed motorway that's usually by coming back down the road from the next junction rather than driving up the emergency lane. It's more dangerous to drive along the hard shoulder than to come backwards down a closed motorway. Apart from the idiots in the film anyone who legitimately stops on the hard shoulder due to overheating/braking down (i.e. on the hard shoulder for a legitimate reason) will stop an emergency vehicle getting through. Also if anyone opens passenger side door in lane one and/or gets out they might get hit by the emergency vehicle. So unless it will save any appreciable amount of time emergency service vehicles will normally drive to the junction after the accident and come back down the carriageway.

So it's unlikely there would be anything coming down the emergency lane at all. End of pedantic sod mode.

Of course they're still all muppet's but when it comes to driving who isn't? :wink:
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Post by: Blunt on August 14, 2011, 06:54:59 PM
Arrggghhhh. You've awoken my sleeping pedant.
Emergency vehicles will only drive the wrong way down the Motorway in extremely rare circumstances. and even then only for very short distances. eg. when the accident is on or near the slip road.
It is usual to squeeze their way through in the same direction as traffic flow.
Another extremely rare occurrence is to approach from the opposite direction on the other carriageway and to use the emergency crossing gaps, which are 1 mile apart, to swap to the other carriageway.
Motorways are very dangerous environments and it is much safer to go with the flow, even if that means you're a bit slower getting there. "Drive to arrive" is the rule. :D
Title: m1 hard shoulder
Post by: Tutonic on August 14, 2011, 07:58:09 PM
Bravo, hats off to him in for trying to make people realise their own stupidity...
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Post by: smilodon on August 14, 2011, 08:46:18 PM
I was referring to occasions when the motorway has been closed completely as was the case here (the mention of a complete roadblock). I got this from an Ambulance driver so I only have the one source, he may have been talking crap.
Title: m1 hard shoulder
Post by: T-Bag on August 15, 2011, 01:32:41 AM
Quote from: smilodon;330968I was referring to occasions when the motorway has been closed completely as was the case here (the mention of a complete roadblock). I got this from an Ambulance driver so I only have the one source, he may have been talking crap.

I suspect they didn't know when pulling onto the hard shoulder that it was a complete road block so as far as they know they're blocking an ambulance. There are bike response units etc that can get through btu whenever I've been in a tail back I've had the emergency vehicles come past me. You can tell if it's a bad accident by the number of emergency vehicles heading down the opposite side of the motorway to double back. I know he shouldn't walk on the motorway either but if it's a case of him making this video and teaching 400,000 people the right thing to do then I approve. Say one in 4 didn't know that's 100,000 people less likely to needlessly block ambulances and the police (who are the ones trying to reestablish traffic flow to get everyone moving).

I don't suggest everyone do it...that would be silly. But if they procecute (or even give him a slap on the wrist) I hope they do it for everyone on the hard shoulder.
Title: m1 hard shoulder
Post by: smilodon on August 15, 2011, 07:34:57 AM
Like I say I agree with the sentiment, it was better to make that film than not. I was just being a pedantic sod :-)

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