It is likely we'll have some spots opening up in the healer and ranged dps camp for RGW imminently. We're keen to see DMR members progressing where they want to do so and these openings in the RGW raid group might well provide the opportunities wanted.
If you are interested in raiding with RGW in a ranged dps or healer role, please post your application in the Recruitment section of the forums as soon as possible so that it can be considered alongside any other applications.
Tis generally just a ranged DPS at moment (although a 3 melee group last night was amazing for rylo and bale :D)
No vladic, TL is right, healer and ranged. and we might actually need a new tank aswell, DK would be nice(with the priority of sundays).
i think we should look at what we have first. the ones we have need to respond to their invites (doing this after the invites has started is not good enough) apparently we have 5 tanks in RGW. Looking at attendance, were only 3 in reality. I agree we need another ranged, preferrably a hunter
The post was made after extended discussions about what we already have, attendance, what we know is happening in the future for some members and what we anticipate will happen. It wasn't a random post for the hell of it with no forethought Vlad, it was for non-raiders to get the opportunity to apply to raid if they wanted to do so.
The post TL made isnt coming out of nothing, this is a review of what we need.
is it open for our alts?
Start a new thread,
OLD SOG members we need you..
hopefully it will stay on topic
apologies was just stating what i thought is all, its a shame claiire isnt playing anymore as she wuda been awsome ranged even if wuda ment having 2 mages she has the skills (probably cause he she spends all her time doing hardcore achievment runs) and agree with arctic DK tank be awsome simply due to there diffrent skill set from the others
Nps Valdic, input is always welcome.
and a sunday tank would be nice, as long as i dont have to sit out during my 2 weekday runs due to it/him/her :)
Quote from: Sharpfang;331655and a sunday tank would be nice, as long as i dont have to sit out during my 2 weekday runs due to it/him/her :)
bad news bro, you will ofcourse, rotation and rotation:P
OT: the current think holding us down to 3 days per week is Tanks, need 2(Pala and DK would be awesome). Ranged(warlock, Hunter, Shadow Priest) and in the future, probably, Healer(s)(priest,Shaman). Melee seems oke for now.
i tend to agree we need another tank, looking at signups lately i think Treach has gone on vacation or something
Quote from: Arcticfire;331876and in the future, probably, Healer(s)(priest,Shaman). .
said in this way, it seems that you want to go away in the near future :blink:
lol you cant do this ...even to go in RGT
:D
as i mentioned earlier today, as were nicely covered on tanks monday and wednesday, is it worth having one our regulars building a tanking offspec? recruiting a tank to only raid sundays will result in him/her getting behind on gear, or it will increase the rotating which were alrdy doing quite a lot of.
/sharp
With Angeldark in we're 3 tanks and pretty much set, so we're not recruiting to only raid Sunday if we can avoid it. What we'd like to see is tanks making Sunday's raid. Three tanks ought to be enough to cover it? Clearly if it is not then offspecs are an option (as RGT do), but then those people also need to turn up, be willing to have such an offspec, want to play it and have the required skill to execute it.
Quote from: TeaLeaf;332354With Angeldark in we're 3 tanks and pretty much set, so we're not recruiting to only raid Sunday if we can avoid it. What we'd like to see is tanks making Sunday's raid. Three tanks ought to be enough to cover it? Clearly if it is not then offspecs are an option (as RGT do), but then those people also need to turn up, be willing to have such an offspec and want to play it.
This works very well for RGT. I basically raid the days when Hal doesn't, so I only raid twice a week (to keep the wife happy, otherwise I would raid 3, lol). This does rely on Whitey being present all the time though, or Hal raiding twice a week as well. Doing this since I've been in the guild, we've only had 2 nights iirc where we needed to get Grim to cover a tank spot from his normal DPS spot.
Ideally you don't want any more than 3 because Firelands has a lot of single tank encounters and we don't want bored tanks downing tools and leaving!
i work every sunday. DA said he could make most sundays, Treach said he wont make most sundays as hes hanging out with m8s. this leaves us a tank short on sundays. Vlad wouldve been an alternative in OS, but hes gone on a break.
Problem is either way we need to recruit a melee/tank so either we end up with 4 tanks or with 4 melee. We cant recruit someone for 1 day a week so rotations will be bigger. It sucks but then it isnt the "new" guys fault, it is ours/yours.
whats Pals offspec? never seen her in anything but kitty form, is this an alternative? building a tank set shouldnt take too long with the valor pieces
my offspec is arms dude aint got tank kit etc, got PVP kit tho lol
spoke to pals just now, she will be our offspec bear for sundays :) good one kitteh!
to vlad: i wont count u anyways, as u go on a break every 2nd month ;)
oke, well we will keep the spot for a dps/tank DK open
We have DA's pal who has joined....dk...hes social atm will tap it up
Dual spec really is a must IMO but surely this is no surprise we should all have offspec
Trouble is with running o/s.....for example sharp has spoken with pals to tank....pals has never played tank....not something u can just jump into....dont get me wrong thx sharp for talking to her and thank you pals for offering to do that....
So we now have an o/s tank for when sharp has to work and treach plays with his friends....then we lose a melee...vlad is off atm and for the nearfuture so that the presents us short of melee...
We still need another tank imo....want to talk to da and his pal who has transfered over they werent on tonight,but soon as they are i will ask...
i still strongly disagree on getting another tank. Theres at least 2 fights in FL that only calls for one tank, most the thrash can be tanked by 1, meaning that on any given night ull have 3 tanks sitting out for at least 2 fights.
offcourse you disagree, but then I guess the Melee would disagree for finding a 4th melee aswell and bringing a offspec melee isnt the way to go caus we are already short on players on sunday.
Quote from: Sithvid;332430Dual spec really is a must IMO but surely this is no surprise we should all have offspec
totally agree, we should all have offspec.. since we are so many druids in our group, I nvr been asked for a offspec. just nothing else that cat has been needed, (and the gearing offspec up is been non-prio) and many times I just have to sit on bench for other classes of melee.. so if the DK is willing to try tanking out and accept he might have to sit on bench while the other tanks are in. fine by me. :)
and may I ask.. if ya gone for a month or two, do ya get ya spot back in raids? just like that? just wanna know how it works :)
I think that running on a Sunday is the crux we need a few more players to make it viable I know I haven't attended on a Sunday yet but hope to soon.
Just as a side-note: RGT has 3 tanks. When we were progressing through first 6 bosses, we planned ahead for days we only had 1 tank available (this do occur and is easy to see on Calendar).
Sounds like Sundays are gonna be your usual Bale+Rhy day?
Comparing with melee is not the way to go, cause all fights can be done with 2 melee. If you find a 4th melee, you will have a maximum of 50% sit-outs on full attendance nights.
While having a 4th tank will bring a maximum of 75% sit-out.
I feel this is a good time to look through TLs old, but not outdated post... DMR & The Way We Raid (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?32498-DMR-amp-The-Way-We-Raid).
Its a tricky problem ... The attendance is good on tanks till we hit sunday then it falls thu the floor. Recruiting a tank just for sunday is also not an option leaving 4 tanks that our meat shields feel is too many. The options left are change the day or use an offspec or return to 2 days .. In the team we have Moon , Drew , Pals , Vlad, Sith that could help tho this is going to take time gear wise. We could look at getting in a melee with a tank OS (DK would be perfect) and DA's friend could possibly be the way forward
I think short term you have no choice but to use an offspec for sundays and a general recruitment for class balance is needed too
Treach, how bout u play with youre friends mon or wed and come raid sunday? i wouldve come sundays myself, but my work commitment has to come first.
edit: as a comment on dre's comparison to melee, this is not valid. as slush says melee always has 2 raid spots no matter the boss. we have 3 melee now for 2-3 spots. Healers ALWAYS has 3 spots for any given boss fight in FL, we have 4 healers alltogether. Tanks, as ive said before, has 1-2 raid spots, and having 4 tanks share that, its not ok.
If we have tanks not able to that dont show up we need back up. On sundays we had 1 melee showing up and 1 melee being late. I expect Nims and Vladic to now show up on sundays. So IMO,like Jas already mentioned, a tank/melee would be best(1spec tank, 1 spec melee).
So the problem isnt us having alot of players, well it is but not direct. Our problem is ppl not willing or they cant show up 3 days per week. 2 solutions for that IMO are:
-recruit more and have bigger rotations.
-recruit more and get rid of ppl that cant keep up :P
Quote from: Arcticfire;332465I
So the problem isnt us having alot of players, well it is but not direct. Our problem is ppl not willing or they cant show up 3 days per week. 2 solutions for that IMO are:
-recruit more and have bigger rotations.
-recruit more and get rid of ppl that cant keep up :P
Another option if the Sunday is a problem and the other days are OK is to drop the Sunday raid.
we have an average of 8 players showing up for sunday that seem to like raiding on sunday, based on that I dont think we should cancel it. it wouldnt be fair.
Sorry to sound harsh, But before SUnday raid was created there was a post asking for what days people could do. Setting up Sunday after the tanks said they can;t do it then balming the tanks for not turning up is a bit unfair.
I don´t think anyone blame the tanks for not showing up. They just try to solve the sunday´s raid. and I hope they do. since I would like one more day a week :)
Like pals said, its not a blame, its not the tanks fault but, it is because of the tanks that we need to look for a solution, you guys show up twice a week which is what you need to do.
we need another melee or 2, that much is clear, dre mentioned we need another ranged as well. Id say dk dps with tank offspec and elemental shammy with enh offspec
/sharp
Time has come, where my project at work is coming to a hold over the winter, and within the next couple of weeks i should get more time to attend raids again, if i'm still wanted that is. Recently i have lvl'ed my priest to disc, and getting fairly good at it, still need to attain some pieces of gear, but i'm getting there. Reason why, is that i'm not completely sure where i stand by being a tank (haven't played it for some time now), and i've found some good fun in the priest, so that would be either of thoose toons i prefer.
woot demi! the old gang coming back together!;)
shud point out when i return (still as unsure as still not feeling that "WOOHOO raid time" urge agian) as it involved me making i dare say too many RL sacrifices (time with friends for online friends etc, or canceling things or rushing food) i dare say ill be sticking to monday/wednesday raids as sunday is just a bad day over all for me (only day off of work and uni after next week) where ill want to most likely spend with RL friends i havnt seen all week and such, and i know nims doesnt always attend them as he has his GF relationship and RL friends also to think of.
To pals it depends if you notify the raid your going, as breaks are to be expected and even then you wont INSTANTLY get your spot back as they may well recruit a new melee from outside the guild and it wont be fair to go "well vladics back so bye bye"
To be honest a 3rd night over all once term begins may be an issue for me once i get further into learning plus when SWTOR comes out i know im going for that ("LOOK AT MY SPARKLY FAN BOY BADGE!!!!" but even should another MMO come along, my university studies will still take prio as WoW is fun but i cant get a job with it (unless i become a GM but thats another issue).
So as for now my personal answer to this thread is "sure go get another melee and if i return best i can do is 2 days maybe the odd 3rd for sake of RL"
Vlad
i think a hard look on attendance is in place.
@Vlad: if u go on a break every 2 months, a raid group cant really count u as an active member can they
/sharp
i dont go on a break every few months this is first break ive had in about year and a bit lol the other times have either been uni work deadlines or power cuts which i generally cant ignore/stop
I think this thread is in danger of becoming filled with ill-thought through & too personal comments. Please let's stop them now, it's off-topic and does not benefit the raid.
The purpose of the thread was to ensure that people who want to raid and whom are currently social members, have the opportunity to apply.
Council and the RGW RL have regular discussions about RGW requirements and if you have alternative ideas, please talk to one of those people to submit your suggestions and reasoning. Please also remember, that Council and the RGW RL may have more information than you are privy to, so their conclusion might differ from your own!
Is it possible to get a update post/list about what spots are needed and what's not please?
Quote from: Bellanie;333502Is it possible to get a update post/list about what spots are needed and what's not please?
The Recruitment topic has a pinned post with this info. It's usually reasonably up to date.
ok ty tl
Due to the lack of signups over the last few days/weeks we will open recruitment on every possible spot, healers/melee/ranged/tanks.
We will be looking for a
Pally healer
DK DPS/Tank(to fix both melee and tank issues)
Hunter, ele shammy, warlock
This means we will have a bigger group but im just sick of buggering other members if we could please use one of there alts.
Agreed as per our chat the other week. We'll open it up for you on wowprogress and the forums too.
Rightly so. Prio 1 is being able to raid in the first place.
yay, get us moar players! 1-2 more healers, 1-2 moar dps
right regards to the ele shammy i am still here, if you did not see my post i will be back to raiding this week. just been a really tough 2 weeks.
youre on trail bellanie, you still have to earn your spot.
aye i know i do, was just letting you know i am still here.:)