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The problem is when you are playing with Pubs on your squad in hardcore mode. If you are on TS with dMwers this is not a problem but with pubs on hardcore it does feel like you are on your own due to lack of spotting etc. The gun physics and game is better like this but I just want the non voice teamwork to be added back as this encourages teamplay.
the majority of time there will be a dMw. with you failing this see if they have in voice comms.
What are all the options available to us?
I'm with Naldo, that will kill it!
Question: What do you think of the dMw server running "hardcore"?
Option 1: love it. Snipe on brother!
votes: 9
Option 2: e changed mode? Must have been asleep.
votes: 0
Option 3: t\'s okay, but I prefer \"softcore\" 
votes: 5
votes: 5
Option 4: can\'t get on with it! Where\'s my kill cam?
votes: 2
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: ArithonUK on August 30, 2011, 08:31:03 AM
Post by: ArithonUK on August 30, 2011, 08:31:03 AM
It makes the game different, but what do you think?
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TheDvEight on August 30, 2011, 10:02:00 AM
Post by: TheDvEight on August 30, 2011, 10:02:00 AM
i voted i love it but i dont snipe :P
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Fazer Erazer on August 30, 2011, 12:11:02 PM
Post by: Fazer Erazer on August 30, 2011, 12:11:02 PM
I voted I love it...makes the game feel different and harder..more of a challenge :)
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: DrunkenZombiee on August 30, 2011, 12:40:33 PM
Post by: DrunkenZombiee on August 30, 2011, 12:40:33 PM
Some of the perks are useless in hardcore mode (advanced spotting etc) and I feel its less team-based as the spotting element has gone. It feels more "you" against the other team like CoD. BF is different due to the team based controls and gameplay and this mode makes it feel a big different.
I do like the more realistic weapon physics though as you should be able to get a one hit kill with the snipers and shotguns close up.
I do like the more realistic weapon physics though as you should be able to get a one hit kill with the snipers and shotguns close up.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Fazer Erazer on August 30, 2011, 01:11:03 PM
Post by: Fazer Erazer on August 30, 2011, 01:11:03 PM
In truth Hardcore makes it more of a team and squad based game it promotes better use of comms and squad management due to the fact that things such as advanced spotting are off and running over your own team mate is very easily done(TwoBad) :). You cannot go running around all guns blazing or dropping C4 on the MCOM because your more likely to wipe out your own team as you are the enemy.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Tutonic on August 30, 2011, 01:34:57 PM
Post by: Tutonic on August 30, 2011, 01:34:57 PM
Snipers have gone from irritating, to seriously annoying.
Also, I quite miss not being able to tag enemy players for my team - that's a pain.
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Also, I quite miss not being able to tag enemy players for my team - that's a pain.
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Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Toxteth on August 30, 2011, 01:40:52 PM
Post by: Toxteth on August 30, 2011, 01:40:52 PM
Can we adjust it at all? A lot of things on Hardcore I really like such as weapons, TKs and no spotting makes the game far more realistic. But it can quickly turn into an absolute snipe/frag fest. I don't know what to suggest or adjust. Maybe just more pop ups defining the rules like no spawn raping...
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Fazer Erazer on August 30, 2011, 01:53:12 PM
Post by: Fazer Erazer on August 30, 2011, 01:53:12 PM
Trying having a word with Ninja and see if the limit for snipers can be turned on, that's one way of stopping it from becoming a snipe fest.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TheDvEight on August 30, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
Post by: TheDvEight on August 30, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
You can still spot the enemy (useful when camping/sniping) and still get points i suggested a snipe limit but dont think people were too keen on it? (As many people use c4 mortar,radar with a shotgun or machie gun for example) WHICH i understand where there coming from but i think it would still be a good idea for a sniper limit (set to say 5? would be a fair number for RUSH MAPS ONLY) what do you lot think?
Also with regards to the teamwork side of it i think you wrong and i will tell you why now.
Hardcore is harder thats why its hardcore and working in a squad is much better than beng a lone ranger and as dMw. Want to encourage teamwork during gameplay i feel that hardcore promotes this becuase lets face it being a lone ranger on attacking on a rush map will get you nowhere (You'd proberly) get away with it on conquest maps but you will always get less points unless the lone ranger follows his team mates.
Even if your the best player in the world (which of course i am) you will always get more points in a squad and i think more enjoyment out the game - Teamspeak enhances the teamwork moreso with clan members and lets face it the majority of regulars on the server (dMw. Members, MrBort etc) will always squad up with dMw. members and join teamspeak (teamspeak helps alot with teamwork).
I dont know about anyone else but since the likes of the battlefield series starting from bf2 ive always enjoyed using teamwork during gameplay to win the objective/map and always look to join a good squad (anyone with enough sense does this) i dont think
teamwork is lost JUST becuase its hardcore. Theres in game comms for the public and squadchat (its up to them if they want to use it and use teamwork with that) if not you join another squad.
& sometimes people/public want to be lone rangers (fair enough, wouldnt recommend it) and it doesnt work it shows with the scoreboards at the end of the round.
Also with regards to the teamwork side of it i think you wrong and i will tell you why now.
Hardcore is harder thats why its hardcore and working in a squad is much better than beng a lone ranger and as dMw. Want to encourage teamwork during gameplay i feel that hardcore promotes this becuase lets face it being a lone ranger on attacking on a rush map will get you nowhere (You'd proberly) get away with it on conquest maps but you will always get less points unless the lone ranger follows his team mates.
Even if your the best player in the world (which of course i am) you will always get more points in a squad and i think more enjoyment out the game - Teamspeak enhances the teamwork moreso with clan members and lets face it the majority of regulars on the server (dMw. Members, MrBort etc) will always squad up with dMw. members and join teamspeak (teamspeak helps alot with teamwork).
I dont know about anyone else but since the likes of the battlefield series starting from bf2 ive always enjoyed using teamwork during gameplay to win the objective/map and always look to join a good squad (anyone with enough sense does this) i dont think
teamwork is lost JUST becuase its hardcore. Theres in game comms for the public and squadchat (its up to them if they want to use it and use teamwork with that) if not you join another squad.
& sometimes people/public want to be lone rangers (fair enough, wouldnt recommend it) and it doesnt work it shows with the scoreboards at the end of the round.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: DrunkenZombiee on August 30, 2011, 05:55:38 PM
Post by: DrunkenZombiee on August 30, 2011, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: .DickDastardly.;331958You can still spot the enemy (useful when camping/sniping) and still get points i suggested a snipe limit but dont think people were too keen on it? (As many people use c4 mortar,radar with a shotgun or machie gun for example) WHICH i understand where there coming from but i think it would still be a good idea for a sniper limit (set to say 5? would be a fair number for RUSH MAPS ONLY) what do you lot think?
Also with regards to the teamwork side of it i think you wrong and i will tell you why now.
Hardcore is harder thats why its hardcore and working in a squad is much better than beng a lone ranger and as dMw. Want to encourage teamwork during gameplay i feel that hardcore promotes this becuase lets face it being a lone ranger on attacking on a rush map will get you nowhere (You'd proberly) get away with it on conquest maps but you will always get less points unless the lone ranger follows his team mates.
Even if your the best player in the world (which of course i am) you will always get more points in a squad and i think more enjoyment out the game - Teamspeak enhances the teamwork moreso with clan members and lets face it the majority of regulars on the server (dMw. Members, MrBort etc) will always squad up with dMw. members and join teamspeak (teamspeak helps alot with teamwork).
I dont know about anyone else but since the likes of the battlefield series starting from bf2 ive always enjoyed using teamwork during gameplay to win the objective/map and always look to join a good squad (anyone with enough sense does this) i dont think
teamwork is lost JUST becuase its hardcore. Theres in game comms for the public and squadchat (its up to them if they want to use it and use teamwork with that) if not you join another squad.
& sometimes people/public want to be lone rangers (fair enough, wouldnt recommend it) and it doesnt work it shows with the scoreboards at the end of the round.
The problem is when you are playing with Pubs on your squad in hardcore mode. If you are on TS with dMwers this is not a problem but with pubs on hardcore it does feel like you are on your own due to lack of spotting etc. The gun physics and game is better like this but I just want the non voice teamwork to be added back as this encourages teamplay.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TheDvEight on August 30, 2011, 06:14:45 PM
Post by: TheDvEight on August 30, 2011, 06:14:45 PM
Quote from: DrunkenZombiee;331973The problem is when you are playing with Pubs on your squad in hardcore mode. If you are on TS with dMwers this is not a problem but with pubs on hardcore it does feel like you are on your own due to lack of spotting etc. The gun physics and game is better like this but I just want the non voice teamwork to be added back as this encourages teamplay.
the majority of time there will be a dMw. with you failing this see if they have in voice comms.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TwoBad on September 02, 2011, 12:10:08 PM
Post by: TwoBad on September 02, 2011, 12:10:08 PM
Thought I’d reserve my judgement until I’d played it a little more.
I have to say having been sceptical of HC before playing it, I absolutely love it. The team play is working well even with publics. I know there are some who will join your squad and then go off on their own hiding at the back of the map somewhere with their sniper rifle just to frag hunt but is that just a HC problem? I think not. My personal experience is the ppl playing HC know what’s required to play well and step up to the mark.
One very good example I had was a few nights ago, server is full and I’m in a squad of 3 dMw and 1 public. We were attacking on Harvest Day second set of m-coms and I remember think how well we were ALL working together as we flanked to the left. We were all staying together covering each other as we moved up.
Yes snipers can be a problem but if one is available jump in a tank with long range optics, no more sniper problem. If not, spawn somewhere else! The only time I’ve had real problems with snipers is on some of the large open maps, urban maps they can loose their advantage very quickly. But in any case, HC or SC you'll still get some who want to play like that but in SC they can stay alive for ages coz they can regenerate health, not so easy for them in HC!
One thing I have noticed is a change in the balance of play. On the whole in SC a rush map will be won by the attackers, I have found the advantage has swung back to the defenders and I like it. As a defender I now feel I have a good chance to win even against a good attacking force whereas in SC you feel its normally just a matter of time. As an attacker it's great, you now have a real challenge to win needing to use tack ticks rather than just firepower. I have also found myself using weapons that in SC I just couldn't get on with.
So, HC makes for: new tack ticks, better teamwork even with publics, new game play styles (different load outs) and better balanced game play.
Hardcore gets my vote.
I have to say having been sceptical of HC before playing it, I absolutely love it. The team play is working well even with publics. I know there are some who will join your squad and then go off on their own hiding at the back of the map somewhere with their sniper rifle just to frag hunt but is that just a HC problem? I think not. My personal experience is the ppl playing HC know what’s required to play well and step up to the mark.
One very good example I had was a few nights ago, server is full and I’m in a squad of 3 dMw and 1 public. We were attacking on Harvest Day second set of m-coms and I remember think how well we were ALL working together as we flanked to the left. We were all staying together covering each other as we moved up.
Yes snipers can be a problem but if one is available jump in a tank with long range optics, no more sniper problem. If not, spawn somewhere else! The only time I’ve had real problems with snipers is on some of the large open maps, urban maps they can loose their advantage very quickly. But in any case, HC or SC you'll still get some who want to play like that but in SC they can stay alive for ages coz they can regenerate health, not so easy for them in HC!
One thing I have noticed is a change in the balance of play. On the whole in SC a rush map will be won by the attackers, I have found the advantage has swung back to the defenders and I like it. As a defender I now feel I have a good chance to win even against a good attacking force whereas in SC you feel its normally just a matter of time. As an attacker it's great, you now have a real challenge to win needing to use tack ticks rather than just firepower. I have also found myself using weapons that in SC I just couldn't get on with.
So, HC makes for: new tack ticks, better teamwork even with publics, new game play styles (different load outs) and better balanced game play.
Hardcore gets my vote.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Gone_Away on September 02, 2011, 01:01:05 PM
Post by: Gone_Away on September 02, 2011, 01:01:05 PM
Guys,
What if we look into a slight alteration and bring back the radar?
What if we look into a slight alteration and bring back the radar?
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TheDvEight on September 02, 2011, 02:11:32 PM
Post by: TheDvEight on September 02, 2011, 02:11:32 PM
I Love hardcore so will leave it up to the rest, Twobad makes a good point though.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Naldo on September 02, 2011, 02:24:47 PM
Post by: Naldo on September 02, 2011, 02:24:47 PM
Well I am loving it... Even the other night when I got my arse handed to me for 5 rounds in a row.
Its a different game, and you can see peoples play styles changing.
Going from mindless hip shooting out in the open, to using cover and maneuvering.
Love it.
Admin guys need to be on the ball though with spawn camping/killing.
Would like to hear what the juniors think about it :)
Its a different game, and you can see peoples play styles changing.
Going from mindless hip shooting out in the open, to using cover and maneuvering.
Love it.
Admin guys need to be on the ball though with spawn camping/killing.
Would like to hear what the juniors think about it :)
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Naldo on September 02, 2011, 02:26:11 PM
Post by: Naldo on September 02, 2011, 02:26:11 PM
Quote from: Ninja_Freak;332133Guys,
What if we look into a slight alteration and bring back the radar?
What are all the options available to us?
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Gone_Away on September 02, 2011, 02:43:33 PM
Post by: Gone_Away on September 02, 2011, 02:43:33 PM
Check it... I've added a couple of commands to turn the Minimap and Minimap spotting back on..
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Naldo on September 02, 2011, 02:59:50 PM
Post by: Naldo on September 02, 2011, 02:59:50 PM
As long as it does not put that damn colored triangle above your head ... That will be ok.
Edit... Nope...TE and I just tried. It put the triangle on your head. This will kill the game/server in HC mode.
Edit... Nope...TE and I just tried. It put the triangle on your head. This will kill the game/server in HC mode.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TwoBad on September 02, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Post by: TwoBad on September 02, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: Naldo;332146It put the triangle on your head.Good for the wookies then.
I'm with Naldo, that will kill it!
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Gone_Away on September 02, 2011, 04:30:15 PM
Post by: Gone_Away on September 02, 2011, 04:30:15 PM
OK.. Minimap spotting going off.. What's the point of the MM if the spotting is turned off tho?
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: BrotherTobious on September 02, 2011, 04:31:27 PM
Post by: BrotherTobious on September 02, 2011, 04:31:27 PM
So you can see when you mates are fallen and where they are.
I have actualy been enjoying it with no add on personally was great fun :)
I have actualy been enjoying it with no add on personally was great fun :)
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: lionheart on September 02, 2011, 04:43:05 PM
Post by: lionheart on September 02, 2011, 04:43:05 PM
I will be on tonight to see if it has affected my "Total P0wnage" play stlye.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TwoBad on September 02, 2011, 04:43:46 PM
Post by: TwoBad on September 02, 2011, 04:43:46 PM
I guess it will also show where out of bounds is ?
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: GhostMjr on September 02, 2011, 05:18:52 PM
Post by: GhostMjr on September 02, 2011, 05:18:52 PM
Personally I'm not liking the feel.
I am on early evenings with the juniors and we are finding it hard to populate the server early on.
The previous setting was perfect we had after 4 people EA sending us loads of players.
I haven't been playing much as tbh its too frustrating.
There is a real drop in comms as we don't know whats happening as we can't spot aswell as dying immediately after you spawn both spawn and on squad members.
Our teamwork is about working as a team and in all honesty if this was a private server hardcore would be great but for public server its hard to tell the admins who is doing wrong as noone can spot them.
Times that I have played anyway.
I know your tweaking it but with the LAN so close and the potential for us to play it all LAN long can it please go back to softcore?
It is however a 50:50 spilt on softcore versus hardcore on the voting.
I am on early evenings with the juniors and we are finding it hard to populate the server early on.
The previous setting was perfect we had after 4 people EA sending us loads of players.
I haven't been playing much as tbh its too frustrating.
There is a real drop in comms as we don't know whats happening as we can't spot aswell as dying immediately after you spawn both spawn and on squad members.
Our teamwork is about working as a team and in all honesty if this was a private server hardcore would be great but for public server its hard to tell the admins who is doing wrong as noone can spot them.
Times that I have played anyway.
I know your tweaking it but with the LAN so close and the potential for us to play it all LAN long can it please go back to softcore?
It is however a 50:50 spilt on softcore versus hardcore on the voting.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Blunt on September 02, 2011, 05:38:06 PM
Post by: Blunt on September 02, 2011, 05:38:06 PM
I'm enjoying it, but...
As a medic, unless you see your teammate fall, it's pot-luck finding them to revive.
I'd like to see the flash above the body at the very least, or on the mini-map as well ideally.
Apart from that small gripe I'm fine with it.
As a medic, unless you see your teammate fall, it's pot-luck finding them to revive.
I'd like to see the flash above the body at the very least, or on the mini-map as well ideally.
Apart from that small gripe I'm fine with it.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TheDvEight on September 14, 2011, 08:27:42 PM
Post by: TheDvEight on September 14, 2011, 08:27:42 PM
So its been a while with the hardcore mode on our server and after hearing peoples opinions from playing it can we make a vote on weather to keep it or not please. [Including dMw. Juniors] Just post and say if you want to keep it or not and i will edit this post [as long as Ninja is cool with that?]
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TwoBad on September 14, 2011, 08:57:57 PM
Post by: TwoBad on September 14, 2011, 08:57:57 PM
It's not working at the mo but most ppl are saying "I want hard core back"
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TheDvEight on September 14, 2011, 09:49:50 PM
Post by: TheDvEight on September 14, 2011, 09:49:50 PM
I know its not working but i wanted people to vote for what they wanted/give opinions
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Toxteth on September 14, 2011, 10:02:59 PM
Post by: Toxteth on September 14, 2011, 10:02:59 PM
Initially I didn't like it as much, but then I got used to it and playing softcore tonight was pretty poop! Hardcore ftw.
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TwoBad on September 15, 2011, 08:02:17 AM
Post by: TwoBad on September 15, 2011, 08:02:17 AM
Quote from: .DickDastardly.;332901i wanted people to vote for what they wanted/give opinionsDidn't we already do that? Don't really think ppl will have changed their vote from that above, would they?
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: Blunt on September 15, 2011, 10:46:33 AM
Post by: Blunt on September 15, 2011, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: Toxteth;332902Initially I didn't like it as much, but then I got used to it and playing softcore tonight was pretty poop! Hardcore ftw.I'll have some of that too
Title: After a week, how are you finding the server in "hardcore" mode?
Post by: TheDvEight on September 15, 2011, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: TheDvEight on September 15, 2011, 08:24:00 PM
Quote from: TwoBad;332908Didn't we already do that? Don't really think ppl will have changed their vote from that above, would they?:yahoo:blonde moment:yahoo: