I can now make Columi Stalker's Implant (http://db.darthhater.com/recipes/3196/columi_stalkers_implant/)
It requires normal operation drop, Alien Data Cube of which I have several. I don't expect you to get this as it's BoP, but the other mats can be obtained via GTN.
If you're in a designated Operations Group, and I have excess mats, I will make this free of charge. Otherwise you can buy it at the cut price 50,000 credits.
50K wow I could get a speeder for that. ;)
I thought that we had all discussed this and we wernt charging guild mates for stuff, Mats are slightly different but, bring your own or help someone out. As this is not done in WoW and it does promote teamwork :(
Quote from: BrotherTobious;346188I thought that we had all discussed this and we wernt charging guild mates for stuff, Mats are slightly different but, bring your own or help someone out. As this is not done in WoW and it does promote teamwork :(
Sorry if I wasn't clear. If you ARE a raider (and I have the mats) OR you have the mats then it's free.
If you're not a raider (ie not signed up to either Red or Blue Group) AND you don't have the mats then you don't need raid level epics really do you.
By using this resource, it starves future raiders who really do want/need it from getting it by giving it zero value.
As you used WoW as a measuring stick, I don't recall anything from GB at the present tier level crafted via materials you can only get from raids going out to non raiders either.
Quote from: BrotherTobious;34618850K wow I could get a speeder for that. ;)
You could get a speeder sure.
The top epic speeders in the game currently cost 2 million credits.
I can also make lvl49 implants for free with readily available mats at zero cost.
If you think that free raid epics is fair to social members for something that sells for 200k+ on GTN of which I can make a total of 2 after 4 weeks of actual raiding then feel free to delete this thread and I'll just deal with people in guild chat.
I think it's a little clearer now. This is the sort of thing we need a well featured guild bank for. If we can have different levels for different guild groups we could keep a section for raiders to share raiding resources and a section for levellers to help with levelling up and a section for crafters to get schematics etc Roll on patch 1.2
Quote from: BrotherTobious;34618850K wow I could get a speeder for that.
I know that was tongue in cheek, but allow me to back up my valuation with some facts :)
Mission Discovery Diplomacy (Dark) currently sells for 25k+ on the GTN. There's also no guarantee there's any there. I'm not a slicer so that's the only place I can get it. I need to buy two of those AND run them successfully (2.5 hours per run) (not guaranteed success) to get enough mats to make one of these. You can also buy the mats themselves. x8 radioactive paste currently costs 60k via GTN.
Seeing as it also requires other mats (which to be fair I can get for free via bioanalysis if I find a node), so if I sell at 50k I'm actually making a small loss.
Quote from: brothertobiousI thought that we had all discussed this and we wernt charging guild mates for stuff, Mats are slightly different but, bring your own or help someone out. As this is not done in WoW and it does promote teamwork
Taking the above into account I'll go out on a limb and suggest you didn't do any market research before making a knee jerk reaction.
I think it was clear 2 days back that any misunderstanding was cleared up? I'm not sure there's a benefit to continuing this other than to have an argument, so let's stop the back & forth here please. AFIAA the general rules remain in place; we don't charge guildies for the actually crafting if they provide their own mats. Offering to make it using your own surplus materials is a nice offer, thank you.
If you felt I was getting at you, I am sorry and yes the speeder was meant as tongue in cheek, I saw the OP bits and thats cool, but the price first hit quite high. But your explanation of why ealier cleared up the reasons why. I also believe that you spoke to Ice about this which he brought up with the Dark Council, so I felt I would leave it there.
I did have a quick look but wasnt able to get any definite data at the time as was at work.
But personally I am still against charging for guild mates for items, but I am willing to discuss, listen to ideas how we can make this work, to make it fairer for all the person offering the item and people wanting it.
Hope that clears up my point of view.
Quote from: BrotherTobious;346310If you felt I was getting at you, I am sorry and yes the speeder was meant as tongue in cheek
Thank-you, that's all I wanted to hear :)
I am a Darth, if I want something, I simply take it! :devil:
Hmm Dark side missions eh? hmm if i get any from my slicing i will mail em over to you mate:D but please be patient as they dont pop up that often:(
I only ever see Light missions :angry:
oddly enough, all i get is dark ones :g:
do you think it might have somthing to do with Alignment? i'm dark rank 4, but not sure what you are tl?
Dark 5.
lol then.
I have a couple of dark missions, one is diplomacy and I'll need to check for the other. Until the guild bank system kicks in with patch 1.2 the best we can do is post our stuff on the forum, possibly in a dedicated thread.
I can now make this :D
http://www.torhead.com/schematic/gvJEqVF/black-hole-menders-mk-1-system
Useful for our budding operative healers. Does require mats obtainable only from Denova chests.
mee, mee!
What does it need mate
Synthetic Energy Matrix x2 (from Denova chest)
Molecular Stabilizer x4 (from Denova chest)
Radioactive Paste x8
Immunity Cell Culture x10
Neurochemical Extract x12