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Poll
Question: Do you want a bonus operation night for release of Denova ( 1.2 patch )
Option 1: ed group and want a bonus raid day votes: 5
Option 2: lue group and want a bonus raid day (if not released on scheduled raid night) votes: 7
Option 3: o not want a bonus raid night votes: 2
Title: Bonus raid day for release of 1.2
Post by: Grimnar on April 04, 2012, 05:55:54 PM
The OPS leaders would like to know if the OPS players are up for an extra raid when 1.2 is released.

It is just to get a quick look into the new operation and to see how far we get etc.
It is a nice way to learn the instance etc. for the normal OPS.

So please vote if you are up for a special raid into the new operation as soon as 1.2 is released.


On a side note for the Blue Group, there is a very big change that 1.2 gets released on a normal ops day for the Blue Group.
That would mean that the Blue Group won't really run an extra raid and it would then just count for the Red Group.


The OPS leaders.
Title: Bonus raid day for release of 1.2
Post by: voyak on April 05, 2012, 10:13:18 AM
Just to point out something. Dont know yet if BG is at the point of all members having decent gear, since the Story mode of the new Operation has difficulty bar raised a bit from the other two. So i guess it should be bar of 14k HP (just guessing). Bear in mind that pvp gear will be cut down in 1.2 and that will not necessarily be viable for PVE.
Title: Bonus raid day for release of 1.2
Post by: JanuZ on April 05, 2012, 10:51:51 AM
it is still a few weeks to the patch, ( I am guessing 17th or 24th for release ). The enrage timer was very tight on the first boss before the last changes on PTR ( full rakata had some problems with it ). It should be easier now with the removal of knockbacks and other changes but full columi should be expected for being able to do Denova. Blue group will move on to at least try a hard mode boss here or there soon, so I wouldn't be to worried about blue group not being ready to go into Denova at release.
Title: Bonus raid day for release of 1.2
Post by: smilodon on April 05, 2012, 01:23:57 PM
I think we're very close now in BG. I'm possibly with worst geared player in BG and I'm now 14,000 unbuffed with max DPS of 9000. I think that by the time we see the patch we'll all be at a point where we're good to go for hard mode. Use me as a base point and if I'm ready then everyone else mus be too :)
Title: Bonus raid day for release of 1.2
Post by: Sindri on April 05, 2012, 02:27:46 PM
You may have columni yes.  For the new OP that may not suffice, even for story.  From what I have heard and seen from guilds that have run it in story, you need at least all to have 3/5 rakata to or ore bits otherwise survivability and DPS (enrage on first boss is very tight) will not cut it.   (This is directed at blue group)
Title: Bonus raid day for release of 1.2
Post by: Bellanie on April 05, 2012, 02:49:58 PM
Well, one way to solve this tbh, Run BG run it anyway. We down anything GReat! we dont then we just then oh well we move back to our normal ops til we are geared enough and then move on. Its all good and well say we might be able to and we might not be able to, at the end of the day I say we just blast on in and see how we do, if we dont have enough of whatever we need then we go back get the stuff we need and move back:D

the old saying springs to mind "Fortune Favors the Bold!"

sorry but that just my view on it all.

cheers
Bell
Title: Bonus raid day for release of 1.2
Post by: JanuZ on April 05, 2012, 03:56:06 PM
Quote from: Sindri;348071You may have columni yes.  For the new OP that may not suffice, even for story.  From what I have heard and seen from guilds that have run it in story, you need at least all to have 3/5 rakata to or ore bits otherwise survivability and DPS (enrage on first boss is very tight) will not cut it.   (This is directed at blue group)

The enrage isn't nearly as tight after the changes to the fight in last patch on PTR and you are supposed to be able to do storymode without doing hardmode EV/KP.
Title: Bonus raid day for release of 1.2
Post by: Sindri on April 06, 2012, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: Drazila;348074The enrage isn't nearly as tight after the changes to the fight in last patch on PTR and you are supposed to be able to do storymode without doing hardmode EV/KP.

Aye but it's still tier 2 of OPS hence you will need some rakata.  I'm just saying what the testers and devs say.
Title: Bonus raid day for release of 1.2
Post by: JanuZ on April 06, 2012, 02:35:59 PM
It has been said the whole time by developers that you need to finish storymode tier 1 to do storymode tier 2, and that you need to finish storymode tier2 or hard mode tier 1 to do hard mode tier 2. There are no gear upgrades for those that have done hard mode EV/KP in storymode Denova except rakata ear and implants drop there for the lazy that don't do dailies. So you shouldn't need any rakata for storymode Denova.

I haven't watch any normal mode tries/kills of toth and zorn since the changes ( before the changes they were barely doable in full rakata ). I don't know about storymode but for hard mode there has been added a full minute to the enrage timer plus the reduced movement. The kills of them on hard mode I have seen kill them with 15 to 30 seconds to spare and they slow down DPS to get caught up on healing in atleast 1 of the videos.