Dead Men Walking

Old Server Admin Section => Game Admins => Archived Topics => Battlefield 4 Admins => Topic started by: TheDvEight on May 05, 2012, 07:34:48 PM

Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TheDvEight on May 05, 2012, 07:34:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYImYkEaey8



People are using this on the servers i have since warned people not to use it & the clan members that  were on know not to use it aswell.


Obviously this is a CHEAT/Glitch that needs to be stopped duvvel said that he has seen servers banning the people using the m26dart instantly by a plugin? maybe we need to think about getting it?

ArmenioWar ArmenioWar   Name 2d 23h 52m  glitch <- was using it hence temp ban given.


We really need to stop this glitch before it becomes a problem.
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: Gone_Away on May 07, 2012, 09:32:15 PM
Ya interesting.. Well done EA!

Well, we have a few options here: 1. Post up a rule about it. 2. Single warning then permanent ban. 3. Both.

Thoughts?
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TheDvEight on May 07, 2012, 09:52:35 PM
both i've already had to ban someone over it tbh it's a pretty bad expolit of the game
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TwoBad on May 08, 2012, 09:11:43 AM
I think we need to be careful here.  I agree that using this loadout is not in the spirit of fair play but is it cheating or even glitching?  I seem to remember a number of dMw players using the "over-powered" shotguns and nothing was done by us even tho ppl said it seemed unfair.  It was then delt with in a patch so doesn't the mean that mean they were all cheating, of course not.  Remember, we are not talking about going out of the map or MAV riding here, it’s just ppl using a particular load out.

 Let me point something else out which is in the same vain.  Peanut in his jet, whenever i'm in a dog fight with him, no matter what jets we are in, he will always out turn me and shoot me down, every time!  And i'm sure that is true of every dMw who's gone up against him.  I've asked him how he does it and he's said and i quote "There's a special way of doing it" i asked what way and got no response other than a little laugh.  Also, he can take out a tank which is at 100% in a single pass, again something which most players can't do and probably something which the game makers didn't intend.  So is he cheating?

 I've yet to see this in use, I'm not saying we should ignore this new overpowered shotgun but i'm not sure perm ban is the way to go either.

Just my 2¢
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: Blunt on May 08, 2012, 01:00:08 PM
I was getting killed from long distance by several people using Dart glitch the other night. I mentioned it in TS
While we're on the subject, a bit off topic, but read this (http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/t7201/im_a_hacker_and_i_have_some_information_for_the/)
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: Gone_Away on May 08, 2012, 02:46:41 PM
Guys,

Is it any different to the AWP in CSS? If we ban it's use due to the fact that it's grossly overpowered, that's our server's rule.. Admins are here to enforce rules.
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TwoBad on May 08, 2012, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: Ninja_Freak;350279Is it any different to the AWP in CSS?
Don't know what that is but i'm guessing the same sort of thing.

I have no problem with that.

I'm just being devil's advocate here and pointing out that some things are widely known and lots of ppl use them.  Others aren't so widely known and only a few ppl (admittedly with some skill too) use them and i fail to see the difference.  But that’s just me.
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TwoBad on May 08, 2012, 04:25:58 PM
As you can tell i'm not too comfortabele with banning ppl for this.  So how about we give this a go, Xtrem Weapon Limiter [0.0.1.1] [BF3]  (http://www.phogue.net/forumvb/showthread.php?2908-Xtrem-Weapon-Limiter-0-0-1-1-BF3)and just stop ppl from using it at all!

Let's see if we can get it on tonight.

BTW, while looking at vids of this i found one showing a tank glitch, it fired 2 or 3 shells at a time instead of one :D
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TheDvEight on May 08, 2012, 05:13:03 PM
In all fairness it's proberly not A Cheat or a Glitch as such but it is hardly realistic is it? & Yes Players are using it to there advantage as it's an easy way to rank up/get kills I didnt mean we should ban everyone who use's it but I just wanted a bit of clarifacation of how we were going to proceed with it.



Duvvel Said about seeing servers having banned the weapon from there server so yes I think Twobads "xtrem Weapon Limiter " Plugin is proberly the way forward.
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TwoBad on May 11, 2012, 05:51:06 PM
TL has kindly updated our server with the new plugin to limit weapons.

It's not a great bit of coding as you have to manually edit a file and upload it to the server rather than change via Procon.

Anyway, the rule i have created doesn't seem to be working, not sure why yet.

Example Rule
<?xml version=&quot;1.0&quot; encoding=&quot;UTF-8&quot;?>
<weapon_limiter_configuration xmlns:xsi=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance&quot;
xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation=&quot;../validators/validator_rules.xsd&quot; >

    <configuration>
        <name>Conquest rule</name>
        <whitelist>
        </whitelist>
        <rules>
            <rule>
                <actions>
                    <action>kill</action>
                </actions>
                <player_message><![CDATA[There are already 4 M249 or SCAR-H on this server : You have been killed.]]></player_message>
                <players_message><![CDATA[ [soldierName] has been killed : Maximum 4 M249 or SCAR-H per server.]]></players_message>
                <context>
                    <type>global</type>
                    <min>0</min>
                    <max>64</max>
                    <maps_modes/>
                </context>
                <limitations>
                    <limitation>
                        <type>weapon</type>
                        <values>
                            <value>M249</value>
                            <value>SCAR-H</value>
                        </values>    
                        <max>4</max>
                    </limitation>
                </limitations>            
            </rule>
        </rules>
    </configuration>
</weapon_limiter_configuration>

Rule I created

xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="../validators/validator_rules.xsd" >

   
   
        Stop M26Mass Glitch
       
       

       
           
               
                    kill
               

               
               
               
                    global
                    0
                    64
                   
                   

               

               
                   
                        weapon
                       
                            M26Mass
                       

                        0
                   

               

           

       

   


The code was auto generated at the website of the guy who created the plugin.

Any ideas?
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TheDvEight on May 11, 2012, 05:56:28 PM
The code looks like one that is used in BC2 That i've seen and have yet to see it working in BF3 I think Duvvel might have an idea on what software/code we could use.
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TwoBad on May 11, 2012, 06:02:01 PM
Xtrem Weapon Limiter
"The plugin Xtrem Weapon Limiter is a Procon plugin for Battlefield 3."

Xtrem Weapon Limiter web application (http://www.xtremsoldiers.fr/xtrem_weapon_limiter/web_app/)


Just had another go
<?xml version=&quot;1.0&quot; encoding=&quot;UTF-8&quot;?>
<weapon_limiter_configuration xmlns:xsi=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance&quot; xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation=&quot;../validators/validator_rules.xsd&quot; >
    <configuration>
        <name>Stop M26Mass Glitch</name>
        <whitelist>
        </whitelist>
        <rules>
            <rule>
                <actions>
                    <action>kill</action>
                </actions>
                <player_message>You are not allowed to use the M26 MASS DART.</player_message>
                <players_message>You are not allowed to use the M26 MASS DART.</players_message>
                <context>
                    <type>global</type>
                    <min>0</min>
                    <max>64</max>
                    <maps_modes>
                    </maps_modes>
                </context>
                <limitations>
                    <limitation>
                        <type>weapon</type>
                        <values>
                            <value>M26Mass</value>
                        </values>
                        <max>0</max>
                    </limitation>
                </limitations>
            </rule>
        </rules>
    </configuration>
</weapon_limiter_configuration>
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TwoBad on May 12, 2012, 08:29:42 PM
So i've done some more digging and it seems that kills made by the Underslung M26 are registered to the main weapon (G3A3, Ak-74M, M16A3, M416, AEK-971 and AN-94).

I know DuVel has said he's seen ppl getting kicked for this but i think that is either and admin doing it or possible the server was using rconNET.

For now, there is nothing we can use to automate administration of the M26 glitch.
Title: New glitch out admins please read
Post by: TheDvEight on May 12, 2012, 08:45:37 PM
I think the server in question that duvvel said he saw it on had banned rpgs,c4s,clays,noob toobs (basically anything explosive)