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Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: TeaLeaf on July 01, 2012, 09:32:49 AM

Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 30, 2013, 08:22:41 AM
20 minute grindfest is about to commence.    Prep for this please as we'll be aiming to finish ToES this reset and then start pushing hard on our heroic mode progression.
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: TeaLeaf on February 07, 2013, 08:32:51 AM
Normal phase:
-don't be tank unless you're a tank (don't stand in the fixate circle)
-when you stand in the 'safe cone' make sure you move when an impact cloud appears on the floor under you (the bolt is going to land there a second or two later)
-make sure spread >3yds apart to avoid splash damage
-dps down side adds (avoid breaths) and boss
-healers & tank watch for the triple hit

Mini-Sha Phase: (every 90 seconds)
-1 tank, 1 healer & 3 dps taken
-assign people to pick up the orbs (if not picked up within 8 secs they heal the mini-sha for 5% HP) so rest can force dps
-kill mini-sha asap
-avoid getting hit by Dread Spray (see below)
-avoid Blossom AOE but remember to still pick up ORBS during this bit (tanks or someone using CDs)
-get back to the main platform before next 5 are ported to their own mini-sha

Rinse & repeat for typically 11+ minutes (15 minute enrage).


Dread Spray:
Depending on which shrine you get ported to, there is a specific 'safe zone' you can stand in to avoid getting hit by a 2nd Dread Sray and feared.   Look at the picture and understand it in practice by watching the video.   Personally I've printed the picture off and stuck it just above my monitor as a reminder until I have learnt it. (first picture is the simplified Icy Veins picture, the second is the original Magicmoose picture from posted to wowhead).


(http://www.icy-veins.com/images/sha-of-fear-dread-spray-pattern.jpg)

(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae159/magicmoose88/dreadspraypatterns.jpg)

....or, for those that did not suffer from TLDR, you can install the addon (http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/shaoffearassist).
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: TeaLeaf on February 08, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
Quote from: TeaLeaf;366236....or, for those that did not suffer from TLDR, you can install the addon (http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/shaoffearassist).
QFT!  The addon works really well, but it does need people to stop being so far off the middle that they can't quickly sidestep to the new green area.

Logs
It's abundantly apparent that the logs are going to be of limited use for this fight due to combat log range issues.   Therefore we either need to fix this fight without logs, or have several people running logs so that we can take the 'accurate numbers' out of each log and then start analysing where the problems are.

Sha Globe:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/5mni8fyhni5nio8c/analyze/hh/source/?enc=wipes&boss=60999
We need to improve a lot (not just tanks, it needs us all to be more aware and to help out).   The more healing a Sha Terror takes, the longer it takes to kill it, the more likely it will be that we get back to the main platform too late and get wiped by Sha's "no-tank" mechanics.    

Mini Platforms
This is the fight at the moment, plain and simple.  If we handle this aspect, we get back to the boss with a 30 second damage buff to clean up adds and add dps to the boss.   If we screw it up then we get back too late, we lose dps time on the adds (which then wipe us) or the boss (which then wipes us) or the other tank has already gone (which then wipes us).  We HAVE to get better at this fast or it will be an never-ending wipefest.
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: TeaLeaf on February 08, 2013, 08:56:16 AM
Slight note about channeled spells which Midd noticed last night.    When you get cackled and are in the middle of channeling a spell it will not move you to the mini-platform until you have finished channelling.   As I clip my mind flay, this means I can indefintely defer being sent to the platform if i want by continuously casting & clipping the last tick of mind flay.   It's of absolutely no use though as we need everyone on the mini-platform to kill the add asap!
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: Ammon on February 08, 2013, 01:22:12 PM
I had to confirm but the damage looks a definite even when the fear is avoided.
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=119414#comments
Though I do wonder, based on the dk anti magic shell comment about stopping the damage.
If it would be worth me using cloak of shadows to skip the damage and gain more uptime on the adds.
I know its only 10-15 seconds based on running to the safe spot & back to the add, but quite a lot of damage can be done in that time.
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: TeaLeaf on February 10, 2013, 07:51:12 AM
Everything I am finding on this fight seems to come down to handling the mini-platforms better.
When this happens you get boosted dps time on the main platform for boss & adds.

Fearless-buffed people dps adds as prio (possibly with a limit of say allowing 2 to survive)
Pre-pot & heroism at start - it's a 15 minute enrage so we'll get another heroism later near end

Priests possibly use glyph of fear ward (http://www.wowhead.com/item=42399) for a healer on the platform to assist if they are struggling.
Leap of Faith can be used to save someone (but it's pot luck tbh due to reaction time and lateness of call - i.e. if you know you are too late it is likely to be too late to LoF you out of the breath!).
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: Slush on February 10, 2013, 11:32:43 AM
Same as empress for shamans. Need to be called if you are feared..but; Tremor Totem (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=8143) (1min CD) worked fine. Works with Call of the elements (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=108285) to get it up quick again.

From Icy-veins;
"As the Terrace Guardian (mini-sha) loses health, he regularly spawns  Sha Globes on the ground around him. Sha Globes can be picked up by players (by running into them). When a player picks up a Sha Globe, they take a small amount of Shadow damage but have their primary resource filled up over time. If a Sha Globe is not picked up within 8 seconds of spawning, it will heal the Terrace Guardian for 5% of his maximum health."

Does this mean that warriors, hunters, rogues should be prioritizing picking up the orbs to faster fill up energy/rage bars? Atleast one each for a dps boost?
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: Ammon on February 10, 2013, 01:26:25 PM
Less effective for a rogue as energy refills pretty fast, i can't say for warrior however.
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: TeaLeaf on February 10, 2013, 02:36:07 PM
The issue is to coordinate collection of the orbs with avoidance of the volley.  Any regen is purely a happy by-product not the primary purpose.

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Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: Ammon on February 10, 2013, 10:44:56 PM
Might seem silly, but after my collection of D'uh moments, It finally dawned on me to save dps cools for the platform adds, and not for use on the Sha.
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: hubbah on February 11, 2013, 07:55:38 AM
i like this fight :D just running around stealing all the orbs from guru :D :D
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: Slush on February 11, 2013, 08:58:18 AM
Quote from: Slush;366387Does this mean that warriors, hunters, rogues should be prioritizing picking up the orbs to faster fill up energy/rage bars? Atleast one each for a dps boost?

Deffo a win. Even though it makes me sad to see hubbah's dps in this fight :ranting2:
  http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-hd4ndvr7cxc81w10/sum/damageDone/?s=3307&e=4110


Also, on "our platform", we let healer pick up the first orb for mana regen. Nice communication between Hal and Zol there.
Title: Sha Of Fear - DEFEATED 10/02/13
Post by: hubbah on February 11, 2013, 09:33:01 AM
need to do at least 12k more to get ranked in the top 200 though :( looking forward to next week! :)