I found this quite amusing ;)
Now that *was* pretty funny.
And almost entirely tru fo sho! :roflmao:
so true.
There's an interesting article here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19557497) about Apple and their potential demise.
I use an iPhone and iPad. It works for me but I can see why people plumb for the Galaxy and Associated Android ones.
For me, it's too much of a hassle to change at the moment and it would mean a lot of amending our infrastructure (Sound docks, car kits etc etc). As usual, I'll just wait for my free upgrade but I wouldn't spend proper cash on one.
I'm looking seriously at the iPhone 5. I think that the Samsung G3 is too big for my liking. Anything much bigger than my blackberry doesn't appeal tbh.
There goes another intelligent person being lured by the people that are dumbing down the world :(
Quote from: Ninja_Freak;358338I'm looking seriously at the iPhone 5. I think that the Samsung G3 is too big for my liking. Anything much bigger than my blackberry doesn't appeal tbh.
The iPhone 5 doesn't really do anything special. I'm not an Apple fan, I've got the Samsung S3 myself, but it's always good to have two manufacturers constantly battling each other to make the best products. I was hoping for a new feature rather than playing catch up.
If you don't like the size of something like the S3 I'd have a look at the Lumia 920. It certainly looks like it'll take some beating and Win Phone 8 looks pretty reasonable. No matter what I'd wait a month or two for some proper reviews to come out for both.
There are some serious issues with iOS still...
Syncing being my biggest gripe as you can only Sync to one PC, if you connect to to another..... It formats the phone.
Its not easy to get pictures off it etc.. Bluetoothing files is a no-no.
All of the useful stuff you can do on any other OS is really hard on iOS.
and so it begins, this was up 30 mins after launch
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/Apple/b548/p131332.aspx
i (http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/Apple/b548/p131332.aspx)ts nowt special, and why all the hype
The new iPhone is going to be nicknamed "The iPhone Slightly".
Slightly taller, slightly faster, slightly better battery, slightly different from the last one, slightly too expensive and as a result, Apple shares are down - slightly!
What the press say:
Quote from: PC PROOh god they're doing live music. Genuinely not what any of this room full of tech journalists want right now. *sigh* It's... Foo Fighters. ..."incredible people" here are "shaping our future"... Cleaners in Kings Cross are going to be arm-deep in vomit tonight.
Quote from: The TelegraphSo far, we haven't seen anything that will make Samsung fear its S3 is going to be overwhelmed. For those of you that take these things as a crucial indicator, or have shares yourself Apple's stock price is currently... down 0.1%
Lots of new features...only available in the USA since Siri is 90% offline outside the states.
Siri - so you cannot voice dial without an internet connection, Super new maps - for the USA and maybe London, 4G - unavailable until next year or later as long as providers here use the same tech used in the USA and of course a new dock connector - not USB 2 or 3 (ha! are you kidding) - a non-compatible propriety connector so you'll have to re-buy all those accessories.
Everything else is iOS6, which every 4th gen iPod, 3GS iPhone or later gets anyway, for free!
shared that on fb artithon..good post, credited you with it
Aye, not worth it. Besides, I want a smaller phone not a larger one.
I'll be sticking with the 'free upgrade to previous version' model.
Quote from: sulky_uk;358351shared that on fb artithon..good post, credited you with it
I felt a bit left out, as the Telegraph reporter (especially) was VERY sarcastic and far from enamoured with Apple's happy-smiley-cheering "high fives for us" rhetoric. The whole "false cheer" thing made PC PRO's journo want to vomit!
Can you think of ANY organisation that would talk about the stone-work on an overseas retail store at a major product launch?
Can you imagine them going "Welcome to the launch of the Nokia Windows 8 phone and we'd like to say a bit about the shiny glass in our new Nokia shop in Uxbridge..." really? Apple are so full of it.
The iPhone 5 is a US targeted smartphone and a VERY small incremental change to the iPhone 4S, which in turn was the bug-fixed version of the iPhone 4...
So if you want to spend £600+ cash for black bars at the top and bottom of all your apps, go crazy!
Why the "5" in iPhone 5? Because you can now have five rows of icons, instead of four... major innovation.
Everything bad about Apple is summed up by the fact that they've changed the dock connector, for no reason other than to force loyal customers to buy all their accessories again.
It's disgustingly cynical.
Quote from: T-Bag;358343The iPhone 5 doesn't really do anything special. I'm not an Apple fan, I've got the Samsung S3 myself, but it's always good to have two manufacturers constantly battling each other to make the best products. I was hoping for a new feature rather than playing catch up.
If you don't like the size of something like the S3 I'd have a look at the Lumia 920. It certainly looks like it'll take some beating and Win Phone 8 looks pretty reasonable. No matter what I'd wait a month or two for some proper reviews to come out for both.
Thanks T-Bag and everyone else for their input on this. I won't be looking at changing until December so I've plenty of time to consider. With the rate things are going I'm sure they'll be another 4 android models to choose from.. :D
It's only now I think we see the difference between Apple with Steve Jobs and Apple without. Jony Ive is still there of course but I suspect he didn't have the final word in what the iPhone 5 was going to be. This was the version that needed Apple to create one of their OMFG moments when they reveal the product that will have every other manufacturer floundering to catch up with Apples reinvention of the personal computer/communication device (smartphone). Clearly the iPhone 5 isn't it. This must be the first product Apple has launched in a long while that moves them from 'not the best smartphone manufacturer' to 'still not the best smartphone manufacturer'. I just hope Samsung, Sony, Motorola etc can now step into Apples very big shoes and keep driving the industry forward.
Would have been a good time to go for a micro USB port. Then people would have been able to use any charger or cable with it...oh wait that's exactly why they didn't.
Now would be the perfect time for phone manufacturers to get pushing standards for accessories. With a lot of phones supporting NFC and wireless charging I hope that before too long there will be stereos in cars and homes which you swipe your phone past and can play your songs. If you place it on a mat it will charge too (very useful for in a car). The beauty of Apple products around when the iPhone first launched was its dock connector, the mentality of phone users was that a phone has to regularly be plugged into a computer so people were treating the phone like a smart iPod their phone was "compatible" with their car. "Look what I can plug this into" is becoming a thing of the past.
My photos sync with dropbox and google+ and I can play things on my TV with my phone over wifi, I sync my contacts on google so I don't need to do a PC backup of my phone. I imagine if I looked into it I could transfer songs to my phone without plugging it in too. When I plug in my phone it's only really to charge it. If I had an infinite battery I don't think my phone and PC would ever need to meet, the cable connector is irrelevant. Having said that micro usb is great because everyone has one and they cost about £1 from China to get replacements so I have one permanently packed for when I go away, but if I didn't I'm sure I'd be able to charge my phone anyway.
A phone has become a standalone, cloud dependent device, the concept of manual syncing is archaic (in phone terms) all that is needed is a couple of universal devices (stereos/TVs and chargers) and the days of wires are over. Can't say I'll miss them. The problem is Apple have always tended to cripple its bluetooth and wifi to prevent the sort of tethering needed to ditch wires. As long as there is no consensus with android phones about standards for accessories, and apple remains popular whilst it cripples it's wireless these accessories aren't going to have and easy time getting to market except for uber nerds (think Nexus Q).
Quote from: smilodon;358368keep driving the industry forward.
...that's the bit I like. As long as we see improvement, we keep happy, whoever makes the phone.
Is it cold on that soapbox y'all?
OK keep calm you Apple haters, let's put a bit of perspective into it. Apple have done more to drive the industry forward than anyone else. It may well cease to be the case but I think everyone who loves a bit of technology would be churlish not to give credit to Apple for starting it.
I'm sure others will take over the mantle but bashing Apple, and their users, for the hell of it is pretty puerile.
Quote from: Penfold;358376Is it cold on that soapbox y'all?
OK keep calm you Apple haters, let's put a bit of perspective into it. Apple have done more to drive the industry forward than anyone else. It may well cease to be the case but I think everyone who loves a bit of technology would be churlish not to give credit to Apple for starting it.
I'm sure others will take over the mantle but bashing Apple, and their users, for the hell of it is pretty puerile.
I was bashing Apple for cynically fleecing their customer base. Having proprietary connectors on the iPhone is bad for everyone, not just Apple fans.
Wasn't actually directed at you in particular mate.
Anyway, I agree. Changing the dock connector is just plain wrong. I'm sure someone will come up with a inter-connector to let the new phone accept old style docking stations but things like Bose Soundocks are £100's of pounds. It's the main deal-breaker for me. We just have too much in the way of external docks, chargers, car kits etc etc to start again.
Personally I think there should be a universal standard on these things whether it's Apple or Android or whatever.
As part of our school our Year (year 10) get Ipad 2's next month... Yeah I can see how it all pans out, X pushes Y Y falls over and has to pay £500 to replace the Ipad in their bag...
Good idea but in my eyes the Ipad is a bit of a toy tbh
It's a bit like giving a child a priceless ming vase and telling them not to drop it
Quote from: Penfold;358379Personally I think there should be a universal standard on these things whether it's Apple or Android or whatever.
The agreed standard is micro-usb, and has been for some time now: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/eu-adopts-microusb-cell-phone-charger-standard/
Guess who doesn't use it?
Quote from: Tutonic;358393The agreed standard is micro-usb, and has been for some time now: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/eu-adopts-microusb-cell-phone-charger-standard/
Guess who doesn't use it?
Is it just me who finds it funny that the picture on that website is of mini-USB rather than micro?
By law when sold in Europe all phone have to be compatible with the micro-USB charging standard. That is why Apple supplies a Mirco-USB to iPhone connector with their phones, I think all others just use a micro-USB port on the device itself
But as I said with my previous post, as great as it is having a standard connector which just like the old Nokia days you could charge anywhere, although I doubt there is much like left in it for mobile phones with a couple of big players starting pushing wireless charging. I just hope they all use the same standard, otherwise they'll be expensive slow to take off and a backwards step over a unified cable.
As for your existing products Penfold Apple are releasing an adapter between the old dock and new lightning connector. It's either £25 or £35 depending on the model (I'd imagine one will be included with the phone). It will work for SOME products, my understanding is anything like a car or expensive which reads the iPhone itself (letting you browse the songs on the device) will work, but some cheaper stereos which just output the audio the iPhone is playing (ones where you control the song directly on the iPhone or iPod) will not work. Some of the pins on the old connector were dedicated to outputting audio and they're not present in the new connector.