So i made a post asking people to get geared up and ready for raiding for tonight 10/10/12.
It didnt happen.
Switchbak-469
Amberleigh-460
Missriggy-464
Pendice-463
Grimnar-462
Hemioneg-459
Sithunter-437
Yaril-455
Oddball-454
Pust-455
Battle.net is fubared for me atm so cant find the others but i know they arent ready...
Sweedeguy-posted that not high enough ilvl
Cynba- ^^
Garyuu- Posted not high enough
Hendrikjann- Posted is away due to college.
Mario- ^^
Sharpfang- Geared BEFORE going on holiday
We have 5 people out of 16 raid ready after 2weeks from launch.
I know we all have work,holidays etc etc. Yet why can some do it and not others?
I want us all to be ready for monday. I know some are on holiday, yet this is not a hard thing to achieve....LFR is 463 to run it....so run your hcs and get your rep up by doing daily's and it will be no problem.
If you arent ready there are several socials who are ready and want to raid...We will take them as we want to start our progression asap.
I will try my best. getting help from fellow guildies in randoms etc is always welcome
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Sadly dalieis are needed and that takes most of my time when i get home from work :( it sucks and it all takes time but if you do that, lfr(since the ilvl is dropped) and quests then we will get there but COME on peeps!!! we wanna raid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regarding the dailies:
I would strongly recommend doing the Golden Lotus and Klax dailies in a group, even if the group is only 2 people. It turns what can be a 2 hour grind into a 40 minute breeze. Other than that it's just a case of doing as many heroics as possible to get the final few bits of gear and to make sure you have maxxed out your VP for the week. 1250 VP and you can start getting your first bits of loot.
Had to work really long days past 3-4 weeks, so wasn't always in the mood to log on & do those damn dailies :P
Wasn't looking good for the next couple of weeks aswel but thank god they changed the work schedul again. So from monday on I should be there.
Got my first 1250 VP item, ilvl is at 463 atm. Still need to do lfr so hope to get lucky there :)
I know what you mean Switch but i my self am strugling with finding the time to actually do my daily's every day and running my heroics and besides that there is a luck factor involved with the damn loot.
Just saying dont be to harsh on people that arent ready yet :P
I'd also add that not everyone in RGT was i463, so don't hold that out as a gold standard for raiding. I think I was i461 at our first raid and there were some lower than that (Hubbah is i459 atm for example).
Make sure everyone has the epic boots from world boss Sha (free loot).
Everyone should have thier first VP item by now (1250).
Use crafted epics (only require Honored which only requires a total of 9000 rep and therefore does not take long to reach).
Use the engineer-crafted trinket which guildies can make, non-engineers can use and is a dirt cheap i450 if you are lacking on a trinket slot.
Craft your profession epics!
If you've done all this then you probably ready to raid.
I think the idea of teaming up per TL suggestion is great. I personally found more help from people outside the guild random strangers than I did from within it, when I was levelling. It wasn't through not asking. The trouble IMO is that it has created a gear race I can honestly say that last night my time was set aside for Rgw if it meant helping people hit lvl 90 then I was prepared to do it. But the race means aspiring to the next peice of loot and LFR rgw didn't help each other... I maybe a missing link but a chain is only as strong as its weakest link this is not pointed at anyone just a rant from frustration
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Cheap gear;
Feet; All classes will get ilvl476 from Sha of Anger (quest item drops that can be turned in) Minimum effort.
Neck; Klaxxi to honored. Will take approximately 1 week from you ding 90 to get to honored. The Neckpiece costs 1250VP. This can be earned through dailies/heroics.
Gear overwiev;
You can get ilvl 450 gear from professions. These are also BoE so go to the AH. This is cheap gear as people are leveling their professions.
You can get ilvl 450 gear from Justice Points, some of you might already have Honor Points (can be converted to Justice Points) and Justice Points accumulated from pre-patch. Check if you have.
You can get ilvl 458 gear from Honor Points, this is PVP gear, but still FAAAR better for PVE than 450 gear. Check what you have accumulated from last patch.
You can get ilvl 463 gear from Heroics. Also gives you Valor points to spend on those factions where you have hit honored.
You can get ilvl 476 gear from LFR. Only 3 bosses atm, but with bonus rolls the chance gets higher.
You can get ilvl 476 gear from professions (Tailoring, Blacksmithing, Leatherworking, Engeneering etc.) Yes, you need Mote of Harmony.
Know what you want:
Do a search on wowhead guys. And use the filters. Its really really really handy. To help you start out; here are some of mine:
PVE ilvl 463-476, with int, no resi, mail. (http://www.wowhead.com/items=4.3?filter=minle=463;maxle=476;cr=23:79;crs=1:3;crv=0:0)
PVP ilvl 458 gear with int and resi (http://www.wowhead.com/items=4.3?filter=minle=458;maxle=458;cr=23:79;crs=1:1;crv=0:0)
Dailies:
And to be honest... You need to group up when doing daililes. Doing them alone is a pain in the ass and takes TOO MUCH time. Ask in guild chat.
"Im about to start in Vale, anyone wants to come along". Did you know that killing 12 mogus is done in half the time when grouped up with a friend?
Spend your time ingame wisely, play smart and dont try to get everything done at once.
Edit, damn too late on most of this .-)
You only get a maximum of 1000 valor points a week. This means that it will take you 11 weeks ( 8 if you were maxed before expension ) to buy all 3 items from 2 factions. Now you might want to get the cheap items first requiring 5000 valor points or 5 weeks to get honored with the 4 factions that give items. This means that reputation above honored is not needed for a very long time so you don’t need do all dailies every day for reputation. You get Honored with Golden Lotus in 9 days of doing dailies, shadow pan should be honored by the first day of doing dailies with them,assuming you finished all quests up to and including townlong steppes. Klaxxi should get Honored in a few days of dailies assuming you have finished the Dread Waste.
Since there is a maximum of 1000 valor points a week every daily you do in excess of 200 a week will not gain you valor points any more. This means that you really shouldn’t do more than 29 dailies a day. This assumes you are not gaining any other valor points. If you do 1 random heroic a day you don’t gain valor from any dailies above 17 per day and if you do 2 random heroics a day, you don’t gain more after 11 dailies a day.
You get 2 Lesser Charm of Good Fortune for every daily you do but you can only turn in 90 a week, meaning you have no real gain after 45 dailies a week or 7 dailies a day.
The point I am making is that doing more then 11-17 dailies a day on average is a waste of time unless you, are farming rep for recipes, achievements, mounts or you really need the gold from the quests. Only factions you need to farm rep with for items are Golden Lotus, Klaxxi, Shado Pan and August Celestials and you only need honored with them( golden lotus at revered to unlock dailies with shado-pan and August Celstials) by 5 weeks assuming no valor points at release and revered with 2 by 14 weeks. Other factions are only for secondary professions or mounts.
It is worth doing Golden Lotus dailies though depending on where your gear is sold. For example for me, the BIS cloak is at Honored from Shadopan, for which I need to get Revered with Golden Lotus. Profession recipes may also be relevant.
I've bought 2 x 1250 items now, 1 is BIS for the tier, the other is BIS until a specific Heroic dungeon drop, so the rep has certainly helped me.
Also, as the dungeons give far less VP now, the dailies are a relatively painless way of getting the VP you need done each week. If you did the whole week on random HC runs, then you'd need 33 random heroics in the week! (1 x 60 for the first and then another 32 random Heroics @ 30 VP per run).
I've done all my dailies yesterday and am half way through today's and have done 2 random Heroics yesterday - this has left me with having got 640 VP of my maximum 1000 Valor points for the week.
Yes, doing dailies is needed to some degree and I do the 11 Golden Lotus ones and Klaxxi at the moment. But doing Lorewalkers and order of the Cloud Serpent aren't needed at all and Fishing and Cooking while decent aren't really needed. Doing Klaxxi, Shadopan and August Celstials is also not needed every day.
Also I thought you got 60valor for the first heroic every day not week, though might be wrong.
At the time of the raid call I informed Switch that I was Ilevel 460, but had not yet crafted my epics.
As had just completed my GL rep, and gained access to make the nice dress and gloves, also 1 hc pushed my VP points over, so i could buy a 489 item from the shado pan vendor.
so i`m think i`m currently sat on 463 or 465 Item Level, as i managed to get a healing trinket last night, without the lock stealing it(happened b4 :/)
Also ask in guild is anyone wants to attend the LFR, as going with people you know helps eliminate some of the NAAB factor.. maybe :P
On the dailies, GAWD, how many !
My time is really going to be sparse as I`ve just received 3 projects this week, with another on route next week, along with presenting my business profile next week and attending essential seminars, and contacting employers for my intern-ship, MAD, MAD, MAD i tell ya !
On another note, i learned of a new word last night (you know who you are) !
&£@" pipe?
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Im not being harsh dude :P
As i said i know people have been busy, RL takes prio obviously. Saying this though, i still managed to work and deal with some major crap and get to where i am. Its just abit frustrating.
Loot drops,your right its a pain as you know...11 dungeons and 1 bit of loot :S.
There is some great info in this thread now provided by others, many thanks. As been said lets try and grp up for the dailies, if you dont have much time...dont do the vanity dailys (cloud serpent,anglers,tillers) focus on the reps which give you gear. As been said if you go to townlong steppes and do all the quests there (took about 2 1/2 hours) and you will be revered with the klaxi :)
Im not working for a few days due to certain things so if your on shout and i'll run hc,s. Heck i might even try and heal :P
Some great stuff here thanks for the heads up on the sha quests too, ðŸ'€
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swich ..
on armory im ilvl 459 .. but im not! my gloves are not 450 but 458 by honored with klaxxi and my back are Cloak of Ancient Curses 458 not 450 so my real ilvl is about 463-4... I have already participated in a LFR (see armory)....
Hermi...its switch :)
Armory updates when you log out at the time i check yours you didnt have that gear. Now you do, thats great :) Will see you on monday then.
Im sorry if people think im being abit harsh, yet ive put alot of work into this and several others have aswell...i just want us to have lots of purple shineys :)
I'm 360, but tomorrow I'll have revered with golden lotus giving me both tailoring recipes. So 2 476's should bring me up to raid standard. Hopefully another HC or 2 might give me 1 more item that would definitely pop me over.
Quote from: Treach;359906I'm 360, but tomorrow I'll have revered with golden lotus giving me both tailoring recipes.
I bought the LW recipes when I was honored with Golden Lotus and fixed 2x476..
Heres the wowhead link for Tailoring ones:
Robes of Creation (http://www.wowhead.com/item=86370)
Gloves of Creation (http://www.wowhead.com/item=86371)
im on 454 dps gear, 460 tanking
update: 456 dps gear, 460 tank
450 but its pvp in bits :(
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@ switch
lol i missed a "t" ....but you know... I'm used to call you moon..:lmfao:
argh I havnt been able to win the trinket in Brewfest event (lol i done 70k dps on it.. its normal??).... :crying: so now im working on rep..
i need a purple item!!! i want to raid!!! :boxing:
Well we are going tonight regardless as really want to get it started!
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I think people are more ready for raiding than they think. ilevel isn't everything and you're already (mostly) higher ilevel than RGT was when it started, so I'm with Switch - onwards Raiders!
It's traditional for me to spend a chunk of gold on my main at Christmas what I would like in order Santa are:
Trinket
Gloves
Boots
Can anyone make anything nice I will provide gold matts and a tip
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Check the guild LW list for your preferred items. The trinket is a deck of cards from AH!