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Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: Sharpfang on March 12, 2013, 05:32:07 PM
Mariotet: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/aszune/mariotet

Lacking quite a lot of reforging and a few enchants

Tanales: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/aszune/tanales

Reforging needs to be done
 
Sharpfang: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/aszune/sharpfang

Good to go, it says that colossus enchant is better than River's song, which it is not afaik.

Hermioneg: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/aszune/hermioneg

Good to go

Swedeguy: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/aszune/swedeguy

Reforging of mastery to haste on MH, might be intentional that he didnt do it.
Other than that good to go.

Sithunter: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/aszune/sithunter

Good to go

Vladic: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/aszune/vladic

Lots of reforging to do and some missing enchants

Amberleigh: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/aszune/amberleigh

Lots of reforging to do if haste build and if PvE default build, not that much if hes mastery, alltho mrrobot claims that mastery is not optimal for healing.
Also lacking a few enchants

These are whats left of the steady RGW group, im not gonna count Pen,Yaril or Demi(so far)

Is it okay to post this in the dmr members only section? ALOT of slack going on here

/sharp
Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: Mariotet on March 12, 2013, 06:48:11 PM
Do a post and say that there is a lot of reforging and enchanting thats needs to be done that everyone should check and if they need some help they can ask us.
You can also link askmrrobot aswell so they can have a link to go to.
Then we see who is doing the job.
Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 12, 2013, 06:49:55 PM
Quote from: Sharpfang;368386Amberleigh: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/aszune/amberleigh

Lots of reforging to do if haste build and if PvE default build, not that much if hes mastery, alltho mrrobot claims that mastery is not optimal for healing.
I would not post it in the member section as it's wrong.    Mr Robot is sometimes horrendously wrong, just as it is for Amber.  It's one of the few sites I actually distrust for WoW info.

The way to deal with this info is on a one to one basis, in private.  If you post up a name & shame list you'll just get people's backs up and right now we need the confidence of the raid, not their anger.

Let's develop a list of what is needed in here, moderate it in here and then action it calmly.  I don't have time tonight, but I will try to go through the above carefully tomorrow and post back.
Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: Sharpfang on March 12, 2013, 07:26:52 PM
thats why i posted here first. in my experience mrrobot is right most of the time, but sometimes it gives advice thats just wrong.
if u know ure class you should see em comin ;) i think the point stands tho, theres a lot of reforges and chants that can be improved
Feel free to edit the post into a friendlier format
Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: Tanales on March 14, 2013, 06:20:13 AM
You can edit your stat weights pretty extensivly on AskMrRobot and most of us know by now what softcaps we need to hit and what the stats are worth so shouldnt be a problem figuring that out.

When I do that on AskMrRobot i dont have to reforge that much, 3 items and change two gems, and the score would go up 822 on the site, wich is next to nothing and would barely notice on the DPS.
I will ofc make the changes and the reason i hadnt was that i thought id be getting more upgrades soon and would have to redo it all again, and the last upgrade didnt change much, just added some more of the same as the old item.

And when i use the same weights on Sithy, he needs to do about as much with his gear.
Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 14, 2013, 09:36:07 AM
I'm not saying MrRobot is wrong in this case, but (and I said this to Sharp the other day) MrRobot is very regularly wrong with some classes.

I have found the ReForgeLite addon to be way more accurate and more convenient as it does all the calculation in-game, provides spec-specific stat templates, is many times quicker and provides a simple 'do it now' button which then does all the reforges for you in a couple of seconds.   Please use it!

Using Advanced mode ReForgeLite also allows you to use 2 different stat PP values, for example for a shadow priest haste has great value until you reach 8085 haste, but then it's stat value is much lower.   Advanced mode allows you to set the two different PP values and it will reforge accordingly.
Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: Sharpfang on March 14, 2013, 12:47:51 PM
I dont know much about hunters Tan, so i trust uve done ure homework :) If u could have a chat with sithy bout reforging and gemming
needs, thatd be great. Sithy has improved a lot since he first started raiding with his hunter, he was struggling a lot more with his boomkin
pre-MoP, really good to see.

Ive installed the reforgelite addon, but as ive seen it pops up a huge window with lots of numbers and bars in it when i click the reforge vendor,
looked like too much hassle. As a tank i pretty much know what to aim for and what caps, so if mrrobot suggest a wrong gem (as it frequently does)
i just put in the correct one.
Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 14, 2013, 01:07:17 PM
Quick Guide to Reforge Lite:

Once you have used it once it's basically
It doesn't get any simpler than that.

The big table is showing you what you have stats in.
The small table to the right (about halfway down) is a summary table showing totals and after you have clicked the Calculate button it shows the changes that will be made.

Advanced mode lets you target specific stat values where the PP value might change post-threshold, e.g. as I described above for haste & shadow priests.
Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: Sharpfang on March 14, 2013, 09:18:10 PM
cheers for the guide. im gonna try both the dps and the tanking reforging, see what kind of difference it does from mrrobot.

so how do we proceed, TL sent hermi a mail, is it too much to ask you to do the same to Demi? As you know the shadow priest much better than i do :)

where does reforge lite take its data from? have no idea where mrrobot get its stat values etc from
Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 14, 2013, 09:24:28 PM
I've no idea either tbh on the where the details from question.   I'll sort Demi with a chat tomorrow night during the 'social' raid.
Title: RGW reforging and enchanting needs
Post by: Sharpfang on March 14, 2013, 09:58:48 PM
by the looks of it my aoe damage has gone somewhat down with the reforge in dps spec, but my single target has gone up.

Just did LFR and did 86k on Garajal, think thats pretty ok? i even went in a round to get the small buggers :)