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Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 24, 2003, 04:05:47 AM
Round 1 (the first three matches) will use de_trust.
Round 2 (the Semi-Finals and Wooden Spoon Bowl) will use de_winternuke
Round 3 (the Finals) will use de_museum

Make sure that you have the maps downloaded, installed and tested ASAP.  The maps will be uploaded to Baldric and the rotation changed to just these three maps - this will allow you to make sure you have the right version of th emap installed!

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: DuVeL on December 24, 2003, 03:15:35 PM
Will search for it....

Here: de_winternuke (http://archive.rin.ru/eng/more/464/62/)

Did found it but Mats 1 is better.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Dr Sadako on December 24, 2003, 03:21:22 PM
winternuke is in the xmas pack (43.2 Mb). You can download it from here.

http://www.deadmen.co.uk/downloads.htm (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/downloads.htm)

It also includes xmasdust and other great maps.

More information and reviews are found here

http://www.cstrike.de/mapreviews/xmas/ (http://www.cstrike.de/mapreviews/xmas/)
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: SLoWHaND on December 24, 2003, 03:40:23 PM
Its a bit deja int it.

We played that one to death in the last tourney.

SLoWHaND
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: DuVeL on December 24, 2003, 03:50:41 PM
Any servers where I can test the maps? BB's server maybe?
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: OldBloke on December 24, 2003, 03:58:55 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DuVeL@Dec 24 2003, 03:50 PM
Any servers where I can test the maps? BB's server maybe?
I'm uploading to our servers now.

I will set Baldric to run this map all the time  :D
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: OldBloke on December 24, 2003, 04:14:14 PM
Baldric is now running de_winternuke 24/7 with no password at present.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Grimnar on December 24, 2003, 04:28:12 PM
You can also test it on your own.

Just start steam and launch a lan game.

Or you can use cs 1.5 and podbot if you can find the waypoints.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: [CIGS]Strider on December 25, 2003, 01:56:30 PM
Just click New Game in CS and you can choose the map you want too.

But anyway, I've downloaded that Christmas Pack of yours and it seems to contain great maps. With this pack I think I am ready for the whole tournament.

Greetz Laurens
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: DarkAngel on December 25, 2003, 05:06:07 PM
Ive played winterassault could that be another round map?
btw happy christmas again just about to sit down and have the meal sweeeeet.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 25, 2003, 06:58:13 PM
De_trust (http://www.csk.wz.cz/mapy1.html) will be used in the competition, you can download it from here (http://www.csk.wz.cz/mapy1.html).

Think of the map as de_dust but with an extra loop for the Ts to use on the righthandside.

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 25, 2003, 07:03:32 PM
Refer to the first post in this thread for the full map listing for the competition.  It has been updated.

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: DuVeL on December 25, 2003, 07:50:02 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Dec 25 2003, 06:58 PM
De_trust (http://www.csk.wz.cz/mapy1.html) will be used in the competition, you can download it from here (http://www.csk.wz.cz/mapy1.html).

Think of the map as de_dust but with an extra loop for the Ts to use on the righthandside.

TL.
I wanted to download and I got to another site, no download there.
I end up on this site: Webpage (http://www.internationalpain.net/map_detail.cfm?map=339&show=all)
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 25, 2003, 09:30:59 PM
Both the links look OK to me from here.

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: OldBloke on December 25, 2003, 09:39:46 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DuVeL+Dec 25 2003, 07:50 PM-->
QUOTE (DuVeL @ Dec 25 2003, 07:50 PM)
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: JB on December 25, 2003, 09:51:03 PM
Sorry but if they're the maps we'll be using them i shall be withdrawing, frankly i've been bored of cs ever since i played SWG and was only looking to turn up on the day and play, not have to download and install new maps and spent the next 3 days learning them.  I've just got better stuff to be doing.

Team WaM will be -1 from now on.  Please will someone step up and take control asap.


 :(
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: OldBloke on December 25, 2003, 09:57:35 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke+Dec 25 2003, 09:39 PM-->
QUOTE (OldBloke @ Dec 25 2003, 09:39 PM)
QuoteOriginally posted by DuVeL@Dec 25 2003, 07:50 PM
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 25, 2003, 10:12:31 PM
I get http://www.csk.wz.cz/mapy1.html (http://www.csk.wz.cz/mapy1.html) coming up - it provides a long list of maps including theone we want :D

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: OldBloke on December 25, 2003, 10:31:38 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Dec 25 2003, 10:12 PM
I get http://www.csk.wz.cz/mapy1.html (http://www.csk.wz.cz/mapy1.html) coming up - it provides a long list of maps including theone we want :D

TL.
But the link for that map takes you to the page that Duvel and I arrived at.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Dr Sadako on December 25, 2003, 10:51:37 PM
OB please add that one to Baldric's rotation as well.

Cheers,
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: DuVeL on December 26, 2003, 12:05:04 AM
I checked by using my mouse over it and that's the only 1 where I get that page.

*Me hears the X-files tune suddenly.  :ph34r:  :blink:
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Doorman on December 26, 2003, 12:22:56 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by JB@Dec 25 2003, 09:51 PM
Sorry but if they're the maps we'll be using them i shall be withdrawing, frankly i've been bored of cs ever since i played SWG and was only looking to turn up on the day and play, not have to download and install new maps and spent the next 3 days learning them.  I've just got better stuff to be doing.

Team WaM will be -1 from now on.  Please will someone step up and take control asap.


 :(
See, Christmas spirit, what a load of b****ocks! For god's sake JB it's a f***king game!
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Doorman on December 26, 2003, 12:23:25 AM
Sorry for that outburst.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Dingo on December 26, 2003, 12:34:21 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Dec 26 2003, 12:23 AM
Sorry for that outburst.


That'll be my fault then!!.......just had to send D a Christmas greeting.....boy it really P****s some people off!!  :rolleyes:  :D    Ho, Ho, Ho!!
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: DarkAngel on December 26, 2003, 03:11:06 AM
Is de_museum in the standard map pack or do i need to dl it?
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 26, 2003, 09:00:52 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman+Dec 26 2003, 12:22 AM-->
QUOTE (Doorman @ Dec 26 2003, 12:22 AM)
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 26, 2003, 09:01:28 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Dec 26 2003, 12:23 AM
Sorry for that outburst.
Which outburst?   :huh:

I saw nothing but cold calculating logic in the above posts :D

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on December 26, 2003, 09:33:14 AM
get all the maps for the tourney from here (http://www.cs-maps.jolt.co.uk/)

Sorry to hear that JB, would have been good!
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 26, 2003, 10:14:09 AM
btw Baldric is running these maps atm so you can go try them if you want.  See you all tonight for soem Boxing Day TCS :D

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: DuVeL on December 26, 2003, 11:26:14 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gh0st Face Killah@Dec 26 2003, 09:33 AM
get all the maps for the tourney from here (http://www.cs-maps.jolt.co.uk/)

Sorry to hear that JB, would have been good!
Got them all from there. Thanks!!!
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: JB on December 26, 2003, 11:40:44 AM
Sorry but i have NEVER played Museum or Trust, be it here or anywhere else.  Museum was a regular on N42 but afaik was never played this side of the river.
I'll take a look at them both today and let you know.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: DarkAngel on December 26, 2003, 12:15:00 PM
Come on jb dont back out just because you are so afraid of loosing. Btw the museum map isnt in my map archive but it might be a basic map so you dont need it....
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: JB on December 26, 2003, 01:07:40 PM
I explained my reasons before.

Quote 'I just don't enjoy playing cs anymore'

And the last thing i wanted to do was to be forced to play more just to learn these stupid new maps.  Which to be perfectly frank is the last thing i want to be doing over christmas.  A turn up and play tournament yes, otherwise i'll be thinking twice.
I've seen Trust and initially i thought why not just play dust ffs.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Gone_Away on December 26, 2003, 02:03:51 PM
Didn't Santa bring you what you wanted this year JB?? Maybe he took a dump down your chimny?

NF  :ph34r:  :ph34r:
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 26, 2003, 03:41:36 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JB+Dec 26 2003, 01:07 PM-->
QUOTE (JB @ Dec 26 2003, 01:07 PM)
I've seen Trust and initially i thought why not just play dust ffs.[/b]Because it's christmas and the minnie shooting season opens soon.

Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 26, 2003, 03:43:24 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JB@Dec 26 2003, 11:40 AM
Sorry but i have NEVER played Museum or Trust, be it here or anywhere else.  Museum was a regular on N42 but afaik was never played this side of the river.
I'll take a look at them both today and let you know.
Admittedly de_trust has never been played here, but it *is* dust so nobody needs to learn anything bar the one extra corridor (which is soooo easy my cat could do it).  Both museum and winternuke have also been played here before.  Combined with your singularly orienteering-like knowledge of de_dust then I'm sure you'll do well.  As you say, just turn up and play.

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 26, 2003, 03:46:18 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DarkAngel@Dec 26 2003, 03:11 AM
Is de_museum in the standard map pack or do i need to dl it?
Just a suggestion DA, but why not load up CS and create a new game using de_museum?  You can also go to Baldric which should by now be running all three tourney maps.

I will be doing a bit of TCS tonight on Baldric :D

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: JB on December 26, 2003, 05:42:47 PM
QuoteAdmittedly de_trust has never been played here, but it *is* dust so nobody needs to learn anything bar the one extra corridor (which is soooo easy my cat could do it). Both museum and winternuke have also been played here before. Combined with your singularly orienteering-like knowledge of de_dust then I'm sure you'll do well. As you say, just turn up and play.

TL.

I said i've never played Museum and i've done exactly that, NEVER played it.  I'll play Sunday but screw it if i'm spending the next 48 hours playing Museum.

If im perfectly honest i think your choice of maps is poor.  I long to see a map created today where the creator doesn't feel the need to populate every square metre with 3 boxes, a container or half a dozen items that need jumping over just to get past.  Dust and Aztec are the most widely played maps purely because they're simple maps, easy to learn and combine both open spaces and tight situations perfectly.  Maps like Museum and Trust are poor because of their cramped over populated areas and the constant battle to move from 1 room to the next slowing down the flow of the game.  Give me 48 hours of a good map over 30 seconds of Museum anyday.

JB out (in actually, but not arsed)
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: 0ni0n on December 26, 2003, 05:54:04 PM
HOHOHO

anyone know where i can get de_museum from?
cant find it!  :(

I have to admit i do agree with JB to a certain extent and i too will not have played any of these maps and will not have time to praccy on them!!

I will come along obviously but prob wont do very well,but its the taking part that counts! :D

mmmm i never do very well anyway so what the heck!!  ;)
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: JonnyAppleSeed on December 26, 2003, 05:54:59 PM
not to worry Jb i dont know it either......but it should still be fun ...i think it will still be great to see how people work together ...and even better if they dont know the map :D
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Dr Sadako on December 26, 2003, 06:02:53 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by 0ni0n@Dec 26 2003, 06:54 PM
HOHOHO

anyone know where i can get de_museum from?
cant find it!  :(

I have to admit i do agree with JB to a certain extent and i too will not have played any of these maps and will not have time to praccy on them!!

I will come along obviously but prob wont do very well,but its the taking part that counts! :D

mmmm i never do very well anyway so what the heck!!  ;)
Not that easy mate as there are more than one version out there ...
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 26, 2003, 07:12:42 PM
You could always connect to Baldric and download the maps from the server as the come up in the rotation.  

I chose de_trust because it is *not* de_dust, but still totally simple and will enable quick matchplay with slightly more than the usual dust mincer engagement.  de_winternuke also delivers fast action but this time with the possibility for a little more thought in your attacks.  de_museum is a map we do not usually play, but it is a simple map with lots of ways of attacking - the dilemma for teams on this map will be that they will find it quite easy to slowly advance and plant the bomb due to the choice of routes and sniping potential, but they will lose time if they do it at this pace.  So will you rush the sites and have more difficulty planting and defending the bomb, or take more time but secure the points?  All of these maps will handle the 5 man teams we will be fielding without the maps feeling too big.

I'm sorry if you don't rate the choice of maps, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.  The proof of the pudding will be if the tourney goes well and people enjoy themselves  - that will be good enough for me.  

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: 0ni0n on December 26, 2003, 07:30:42 PM
i went on 1 of the servers earlier when it was on! the server just says "could not connect you need de_museum.bsp" :(
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Doorman on December 26, 2003, 07:37:17 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sadako+Dec 26 2003, 06:02 PM-->
QUOTE (Sadako @ Dec 26 2003, 06:02 PM)
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 26, 2003, 07:44:51 PM
The version that I have uploaded to the separate thread in this section (it is uploading while I type this).  Sorry for the confusion.

TL.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Doorman on December 26, 2003, 07:58:35 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Dec 26 2003, 07:44 PM
The version that I have uploaded to the separate thread in this section (it is uploading while I type this).  Sorry for the confusion.

TL.
Too subtle for me, I can't find it nor can my cute little friend.  :(
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: DuVeL on December 26, 2003, 08:09:13 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gh0st Face Killah@Dec 26 2003, 09:33 AM
get all the maps for the tourney from here (http://www.cs-maps.jolt.co.uk/)

Sorry to hear that JB, would have been good!
BUMPED!!!!!!
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: BigFatCat on December 28, 2003, 11:28:44 AM
Is de_trust supposed to be this dark? and is whacking up your gamma considered cheating?
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: OldBloke on December 28, 2003, 11:35:07 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by BigFatCat@Dec 28 2003, 11:28 AM
Is de_trust supposed to be this dark? and is whacking up your gamma considered cheating?
Yes. It is deliberately dark (uses the Rotterdam textures I think).

Whack up the gamma by all means.  :)
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Doorman on December 28, 2003, 12:12:22 PM
:thumbsdown:
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Doorman on December 28, 2003, 12:28:32 PM
I feel it all welling up inside me again.  :rolleyes:  Why would the map maker go to the trouble of making a dark map if you simply make it light? I wouldn't go as far as to say it's cheating, even if it was there's nothing to be done about it, but.......It just doesn't seem kosher to me. For the record I'll be stumbling around in the dark. I won't be able to see you crouching in dark recesses but you'll be able to see me in a hidey hole, but that's ok.
This is Dead Men Walking, the last bastion of 'doing it right'.

 :unsure:
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: OldBloke on December 28, 2003, 12:30:44 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Dec 28 2003, 12:28 PM
I feel it all welling up inside me again.  :rolleyes:  Why would the map maker go to the trouble of making a dark map if you simply make it light? I wouldn't go as far as to say it's cheating, even if it was there's nothing to be done about it, but.......It just doesn't seem kosher to me. For the record I'll be stumbling around in the dark. I won't be able to see you crouching in dark recesses but you'll be able to see me in a hidey hole, but that's ok.
This is Dead Men Walking, the last bastion of 'doing it right'.

 :unsure:
Don't get me wrong. I'll be using standard gamma for the same reasons as you my old Chum.

I just don't consider altering the gamma as cheating.
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: Doorman on December 28, 2003, 12:37:57 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke+Dec 28 2003, 12:30 PM-->
QUOTE (OldBloke @ Dec 28 2003, 12:30 PM)
Title: Tournament Maps
Post by: BigFatCat on December 28, 2003, 12:44:52 PM
Fair enough then, into the murk it shall be.