Dead Men Walking

Her is the release notes:

Star Citizen Patch 12

RELEASE NOTES â€" Arena Commander V0.8

WARNING: This version of Arena Commander will delete your Hangar’s “USER” folder. If you have stored screenshots or other information, please move them before patching.

IMPORTANT NOTE: In order to take off in the dogfighting module, you must pick up the HELMET located on a pedestal in your Hangar. Once you have picked up the helmet, enter an AC ELIGIBLE SHIP (F7C Hornet, Aurora or 300i) to take off. Note that if you have additional versions of each eligible ship (ie, two 300is) only one of them will allow you access to Arena Commander.

HORNET PILOT’S NOTE: Please be aware that the Gatling guns on your Hornet can overheat and explode! Be careful with the trigger to ensure you don’t lose your weapons while in flight.

Known Issues
GLOBAL
No way to easily distinguish dogfighting eligible ships from ineligible ones.
There are multiple issues with the persistence system that can cause ship loadouts to not appear and bugs with the helmet in the hangar. Easy workaround for most issues is to delete your “USER” folder inside the game client.
Having multiple input devices connected (I.E. Joystick + Gamepad) will cause conflicts between the throttle settings when certain actions are performed like changing flight modes or receiving damage with hit impulses
Hangar â€" Art â€" X55 debug text appears in key bindings menu
Some combinations of computer hardware can sometimes experience graphical glitches and artifacts.
Ship collisions with environmental objects needs tuning and refinement for proper damage attribution.
All Maps â€" Gameplay / Weapons â€" The flare countermeasure doesn’t always cause missiles to miss and follow it
Player cockpit animations and enter/exit animations still need some improvements
Infrequent crashes still occur during gameplay in special circumstances and after extended periods of play
Issues with scoreboard display when awaiting respawn or in 3rd person perspective.
Radar and signature system still needs improvement for occlusion handling and a balance pass to increase the variability of radar effectiveness.
When ejecting from the ship after the character pulls the ejection handle he tposes for a few frames before ejecting
When ejecting at high speeds you go into the cockpit a little bit before impulsing up
Particle effect remains indefinitely after gatling gun is destroyed
Some users are reporting a bypassable “No Disk in Drive” error when updating
Render thread spikes could cause performance issues
Bitching Betty may announce ‘system overheating’ at incorrect times
Missing chair whilst the player is ejecting in first person view
Camera transitions between the three animation states of ejection have large glitching issues.
Some foot IK animation errors when walking inside Constellation
Camera spins wildly when third person is activated after ejecting
On the Aurora the fixed weapon aiming reticule turns green when pointing directly at the target or behind the target’s direction
Blacking out can happen too easily sometimes
Buggy can sometimes slide around and flip over
Buggy can sometimes not accelerate unless turbo is applied (Shift)
Badger Repeater weapon geometry becomes offset when fired from the firing range
Near impossible to navigate Arena Commander UI using Oculus Rift
Some users can experience an issue of falling through the elevator floor when using lower spec machines
The Outfit Changer has been temporarily disabled
Clicking the launch button on the Arena Commander UI multiple times can cause undesired behavior

VANDUUL SWARM
All Maps â€" Vanduul Swarm â€" Gameplay â€" If pausing as the game loads into the level, the player will be left on a black screen indefinitely
All Ships â€" Vanduul Swarm / DFM_Survival â€" Art â€" There is a green, occasionally graphically corrupt, bar present when the player kills an enemy
Vanduul Swarm / DFM_Survival â€" AI â€" The Ai controlled wingmen are too quickly overheating their own Gatling guns to the point of destroying them
Dying Star â€" Vanduul Swarm â€" Gameplay â€" Wave 7 didn’t spawn in during Vanduul Swarm (only once)
No HUD element to show remaining lives

Flying about  weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Patches successfully downloaded and installed but have been stuck on 'PLEASE WAIT' for 30 mins!!!

Quote from: OldBloke;384879Patches successfully downloaded and installed but have been stuck on 'PLEASE WAIT' for 30 mins!!!

Yeah, I read that is a confirmed bug. Not sure what is happening, if they know how to fix it or not.

You Jammy bugger you emailed them and told them to hold off and then you "claim" to be waiting.  I am out tonight and wont get on it till Thursday :( :(

Word is that they forgot to put the "maps" in the download files. Patch is coming....

Wording from Web site:
ALERT: We are aware of a widespread issue in which the game locks between the Hangar and Arena Commander. We are working the issue and will publish a patch as quickly as possible.

UPDATE (12:58 PM PST): The cause of the lock up has been identified: several necessary map files were not correctly served to end users via the CDN. The team is working on a solution now!

Quote from: OldBloke;384879Patches successfully downloaded and installed but have been stuck on 'PLEASE WAIT' for 30 mins!!!

Restarted the launcher. All good :yahoo:

Quote from: BrotherTobious;384881You Jammy bugger you emailed them and told them to hold off and then you "claim" to be waiting.  I am out tonight and wont get on it till Thursday :( :(

See you (later) in the 'verse :D

Quote from: OldBloke;384883Restarted the launcher. All good :yahoo:

Report! :dribble:

Download started. Hopefully finished when work ends :D

Yeah I was a bit premature. Jumped in the 300i selected my map and........ nothing happens. Patience is a virtue though :-)

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The manual

In the meantime download the manual:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/dpd639fngtcakr/source/Arena-Commander-Pilots-Guide-V0-8.pdf

In! Looks very nice. getting used to the controls. Flying into a lot of stuff, getting shot by a lot of stuff. Seen a few bugs the most obvious of which is my hands don't hold the wheel when I respawn. Still looks very very nice, I'm enjoying just flying about as much as I am fighting stuff.

Can't wait to get home :)

Does anyone know if the launcher needs to be restarted before it will update? I left it open hoping it would just auto update.

Quote from: Jamoe;384892Can't wait to get home :)

Does anyone know if the launcher needs to be restarted before it will update? I left it open hoping it would just auto update.

Consider yourself as Investigator In Chief of the auto update feature ;)
I had to login to update, so did you leave it logged in?

Yea, it was left logged in, no idea if it stays logged in all day. Guess we will find out. I'll report back later.

New bug confirmed.  

AC does not run on a Nexus 5 :angry:

/returns attention to really boring client meeting

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This one's a loaner, I'll have the 4 cannons when we get our full classes.

Good thing is, the guns do track the targeting crosshairs on restricted mounts.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]2667[/ATTACH]

And a screeny of the key mappings, which are not changable as far as I can see.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]2668[/ATTACH]


It's quite good looking at the thrusters pods positioning themselves when you move.

Bah.  Out all day today and when I get back I have another meeting to go to tonight.  :sad:

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a nice afternoon off work for me then :D

Quote from: TeaLeaf;384900Bah.  Out all day today and when I get back I have another meeting to go to tonight.  :sad:

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Snap mate I wont be on till thursday night :(

I don't care about the flying and dogfighting, I've found the best update to the game yet.

If you now use your towel, it gets dirty,

Quote from: Liberator;384904... If you now use your towel, it gets dirty,

I had to test that ... and yes it does :D

So I've got a bit of time to take a look so I climb into my Hornet OK but then nothing. What's supposed to happen?

Quote from: OldBloke;384908So I've got a bit of time to take a look so I climb into my Hornet OK but then nothing. What's supposed to happen?

Have you put your helmet on??? Use Key F

Quote from: BrotherTobious;384909Have you put your helmet on??? Use Key F

No I didn't :doh:

Thanks mate.

i have to wait 16 days....so jealous, hurry up stupid course!!

Dl as we speak so hope no huge updates tomorrow and I can join in woo hoo

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I kicked off the download as soon as I got home but it currently has 3 days and 5 hours to go!!!

See you in the morning then :P

dling as we speak

Gonna be tomorrow for me :(

On the positive side I discovered that Jumpgate is still running and is now free, so that'll get me back in the mood for space sims while I wait :)

So far

Smilodon 20 Vandull 0
Asteroids, space junk and various non specific bits of floaty stuff 10 Smilodon 0

The first few waves of Vanduul are fairly easy to kill, but I never see the harder enemies as I tend to crash into stuff with annoying regularity. Must watch where I'm going....

Managed to get to wave 5 of the vanduul swarm by which time I had no thrusters, 1 wing and sparkly things shooting out the cockpit. Had to wait for the inevitable to respawn but wow, for pre-alpha, very impressed, very good fun indeed.

Had the odd crash, which was expected of course and not all my key mappings did what they said they should do but again expected hiccups. But it is playable and oh.....extremely pretty :D

I'm slightly feeling like I'm chasing a dot with my mouse, but to be honest if I actually look to my target and watch my incoming fire, I do seem to hit more things more often. Also if you try to play arcade mode and simply chase your target with a stream of fire/laser bolts etc you'll over heat your guns and end up a toothless sitting duck. I'm getting used to firing on my target when I'm actually likely to hit it and bumping my shields when something is on my tail. Quite tactical and yes very pretty. First game to send my CPU beyond 50% load as well.

The learning curve, for me anyway, is....steep! Control is haphazard to say the least! For me, one of the first things to sort out will be the joysticks  etc. Looks great. Could go far.

Did anyone else have connection problems? To be expected I guess.

Promising. :thumbsup2:

Quote from: Doorman;384934The learning curve, for me anyway, is....steep! Control is haphazard to say the least! For me, one of the first things to sort out will be the joysticks  etc. Looks great. Could go far.

Did anyone else have connection problems? To be expected I guess.

Promising. :thumbsup2:

Agree on the steep learning curve, it would seem I am a useless pilot :narnar:
I had 3 or 4 connection errors when loading the hangar, it would drop me in the hangar then show the connection error but after the first couple of attempts it went fine.

My download finished sometime overnight but the launcher is sitting on "PLEASE WAIT".  Does anyone know how long this wait should take?

Edit:  Found post on reddit saying to restart the launcher and I have but now I'm getting the Connection errors. Hope to get a short play before work. :D

Edit2:  I find the mouse/keyboard pretty much unplayable with the default settings.  More testing needed tonight :)

Quote from: Whitey;384940My download finished sometime overnight but the launcher is sitting on "PLEASE WAIT".  Does anyone know how long this wait should take?

I did the close launcher, restart and it fixed it for me.   I then got the Connection error too, but I am assuming their servers are down so will try to connect later when I get back from my meeting.

Excellent piece on the launch and what to expect next for Arena Commander. Includes video tutorials and how to fly/fight using keyboard & mouse. Videos for other controllers to follow.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13925-Arena-Commander-V08-Thank-You

I had the same problem but finally managed a free flight. Since then 6.30am I've been trying to d'load the pilots manual without success. Does anybody have another source for this manual?
I'm very pleased with the graphics and the 'feel' of the game, but quite disconcerted in the difference between joystick control and mouse control, hence the desire to RTFM.

Lame there is a copy on this thread posted by vob right. If your still having issues let me know and I will host a copy for you.

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On my first couple of attempts I couldnt work out how to leave the hangar, turns out all I had to do was wear my helmet to actually start the Arena Commander.
Luckily Toby was on IRC and threw this at me  https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/dpd639fngtcakr/source/Arena-Commander-Pilots-Guide-V0-8.pdf

If that isnt working for you try this one (http://www.scribd.com/doc/228222936/Arena-Commander-Pilots-Guide-V0-8)

Good Luck Pilot!

Thanks guys, Vobler kindly sent me a copy via drop box. Will be engrossed for the next few hours :yahoo:

Crowd funding rate prior to DFM release: $40,000 per day

Crowd funding now that DFM is released: $140,000 per day

:roflmao:

Quote from: TeaLeaf;384957Crowd funding rate prior to DFM release: $40,000 per day

Crowd funding now that DFM is released: $140,000 per day

:roflmao:

I cant figure out why :g:

Luckly I had read that you needed the helmet, but my 6 year old was trying it out this morning and walk around the hanger. Meant I got into the wrong ship so I couldn't start the AC. Took me 10 minutes to realise. :)

I assume that as well as the base ships your hanger will also contain the ship you purchased, so I must have sat in my 315p and not the 300i.

I'm seeing my red 325i and a new grey 300i. I can dog fight with the 300i but am not allowed to fly my 325i yet. So you should still have your 350i speed machine in there as well.

only just noticed there is a different gun on my gun range!, this one sounds a lot better and shoots green stuff instead, at a rapid rate (its already mounted)

Quote from: Whitey;384940I find the mouse/keyboard pretty much unplayable with the default settings.  More testing needed tonight :)

The default mouse sensitivity was really low and when I bumped it up things started to click into place.  Just finished a 30 minute swarm that ended in a crash to windows but I can't believe how good this is at this stage of development

Anyone been able to get into multiplayer yet? The option is greyed out for me.

Im in .... been playing with Vixen and Warlord all day ...... Helpful guys but not very chatty

Oh err-rm they may be bots :doh:

Is there any way to invert the controls? Tried flying with a mouse, and that is just no doable. Horrible actually. You either go too far or not fast enough. Better dig up my old joystick, or maybe buy a gamepad or something. Pretty cool so far though. Feels much more like a SIM than I had imagined acutally. So pilot skill will matter a lot in the end I assume.

Think there is an invert option for that in Game Controls (or whatever it is called).  Press Escape...

Quote from: TeaLeaf;384977Think there is an invert option for that in Game Controls (or whatever it is called).  Press Escape...

Correct...but. They are preselected game controllers/joysticks. If you don't have what is available you're sunk. They need for the game to scan your PC for all input devices, not just the one they see fit.

Star Citizen will fail! :lmfao:

EDIT: NTS, read the post you're quoting properly! Key word 'invert'. :rolleyes:

Quote from: Vargen;384976Is there any way to invert the controls? Tried flying with a mouse, and that is just no doable. Horrible actually. You either go too far or not fast enough. Better dig up my old joystick, or maybe buy a gamepad or something. Pretty cool so far though. Feels much more like a SIM than I had imagined acutally. So pilot skill will matter a lot in the end I assume.

Wasn't too keen on the mouse myself although I liked the precise aiming on gimbal mounted weapons. Overall though I'm finding a 360 gamepad much better, only thing I'd like to do is remap the 2nd analog stick from look to strafe. I did try a combination of both - flying with the gamepad and aiming with the mouse - seemed like it could work except that moving the gamepad stick centres the targeting reticule every time. If they changed that it might be workable, although there are still so many other controls you need to be able to reach...

It seems I was missing a folder in CitizenClient\Data. There was no controller info at all. Repair didn't want to know, it just sat there like a lemon. So I removed the CitizenClient folder and downloaded again. The speed is a damned sight quicker than it was last night! I'm getting 7mb/s as opposed to 1.5-2mb/s

We shall see if I have any control. Before I just went round in circles!

EDIT: It said 3 patches. Two patches were downloaded and installed. It gave up the ghost on the third patch! Result, no change to the original download. I'll try uninstalling the lot and start again.

You know the feeling when you just want to DRINK! :rolleyes:

Quote from: b00n;384982Overall though I'm finding a 360 gamepad much better, only thing I'd like to do is remap the 2nd analog stick from look to strafe.

Figured out how to do this with the help of this guide: https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/110454/actionmap-and-controller-mapping/p1

<!-- Rebind right thumb stick to strafe -->
<ActionMaps ignoreVersion=&quot;1&quot; >
  <actionmap name=&quot;spaceship_movement&quot;>
<action name=&quot;v_strafe_vertical&quot;>
<rebind device=&quot;xboxpad&quot; input=&quot;xi_thumbry&quot; />
</action>
<action name=&quot;v_strafe_horizontal&quot;>
<rebind device=&quot;xboxpad&quot; input=&quot;xi_thumbrx&quot; />
</action>
</actionmap>
<actionmap name=&quot;vehicle_general&quot;>
<action name=&quot;v_view_pitch&quot;>
<rebind device=&quot;xboxpad&quot; input=&quot;&quot; />
</action>
<action name=&quot;v_view_yaw&quot;>
<rebind device=&quot;xboxpad&quot; input=&quot;&quot; />
</action>
</actionmap>
<actionmap name=&quot;spaceship_view&quot;>
<action name=&quot;v_view_pitch&quot;>
<rebind device=&quot;xboxpad&quot; input=&quot;&quot; />
</action>
<action name=&quot;v_view_yaw&quot;>
<rebind device=&quot;xboxpad&quot; input=&quot;&quot; />
</action>
<action name=&quot;v_view_pitch_1p&quot;>
<rebind device=&quot;xboxpad&quot; input=&quot;&quot; />
</action>
<action name=&quot;v_view_yaw_1p&quot;>
<rebind device=&quot;xboxpad&quot; input=&quot;&quot; />
</action>
</actionmap>
<actionmap name=&quot;vehicle_gforce_tuning&quot;>
<action name=&quot;v_view_pitch&quot;>
<rebind device=&quot;xboxpad&quot; input=&quot;&quot; />
</action>
<action name=&quot;v_view_yaw&quot;>
<rebind device=&quot;xboxpad&quot; input=&quot;&quot; />
</action>
</actionmap>
<options>
<option sensitivity_cvar=&quot;v_gamepadLookSensitivity&quot; nonlinearity_cvar=&quot;v_gamepadLookNonLinearity&quot;>
<optiondata input=&quot;xi_thumbrx&quot; action=&quot;&quot; />
<optiondata input=&quot;xi_thumbry&quot; action=&quot;&quot; />
</option>
</options>
</ActionMaps>

Not sure all that is necessary, haven't tested which bits are required.

The mapping is very alpha at the moment and they have stated it will be improved, so I'd expect that nearer beta or release we'll see much a much wider range of mappings, more flexibility to change the mappings and generally more options for us to edit.

I got the hang of flying with the mouse after a while. I managed to invert it in the hangar, but not in the flight, which is the opposite of what I wanted :rolleyes:

Just from trying it out while having a chat on TS last night I got to wave 7 before my ship became pretty fireworks. Very impressed so far, and this is just the Alpha!

Quote from: TeaLeaf;384957Crowd funding rate prior to DFM release: $40,000 per day

Crowd funding now that DFM is released: $140,000 per day

:roflmao:

Freelancer variants released yesterday ... BOOM! $358,000 income :D

I'm using my sidewinder 2 joystick and it seems to be working quite well.

It will be great when we can configure it or it is set up to support the hardware. I've figured out the 3rd person view, after-burner, target identification (including cycling through targets). To be honest there's so much going on in game I'm OK with having to aim down the middle and not fuss around with the mouse. I tried the joypad for about 30 seconds but it was too sensitive.

At first it was making me ill as the graphics are so good. Much better now.
Throttle response is realistic but also crucial to have that control when enemies are close. It is definitely not all-on or all-off
I like the shields being taken off line and then regenerating
Damage system seems to be working well.

All in all it's quite good fun and I'm enjoying my 300i. How the hell do I upgrade some of the weapons??

Also, how do I get online? Do I have to go through all the swarms? I did manage to get to level five on one of them.

I must not buy more ships.. I must not buy more ships... I must find a way to buy another ship without my Mrs finding out!!   "you paid £40 for a spaceship in a game that isn't even out yet??!!"

:D

The multi player roll-out is being staged and they're adding more players as they ramp up the servers etc. We'll get access to the multi player game based on how early we backed the game. So Brother Toby should be one of the first to get in.

I tried joystick this morning for the first time and irrespective of any discussion about control mechanisms, I actually found I enjoyed the joystick version far more and was actual more successful than I was with keyboard+mouse.     Tracking a ship with a joystick is far easier imo than with kb+mouse, aiming might be harder but actually I thought it balanced quite well.

Joystick all the way for me from now on for AC.    HOTAS will have to wait and see.

I actually read somewhere that joysticks get some auto-targeting/tracking on gimbaled weapons.

They might well have in order to create some balanace.   I'm sure that they way we have it at the moment will be tweaked by launch time, but it sure is fun!

Quote from: TeaLeaf;385073I tried joystick this morning for the first time and irrespective of any discussion about control mechanisms, I actually found I enjoyed the joystick version far more and was actual more successful than I was with keyboard+mouse.     Tracking a ship with a joystick is far easier imo than with kb+mouse, aiming might be harder but actually I thought it balanced quite well.

Joystick all the way for me from now on for AC.    HOTAS will have to wait and see.

I thought the same when I tried joypad after kb+mouse. I think the way the gimbaled weapons automatically track just now levels the playing field nicely.

Quote from: smilodon;385070The multi player roll-out is being staged and they're adding more players as they ramp up the servers etc. We'll get access to the multi player game based on how early we backed the game. So Brother Toby should be one of the first to get in.

Still no multiplayer here, I backed on 25/10/12. :(

Same month as me mate I know your pain

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I backed SC Oct 18, 2012 and no multi-player either. One rumour I've seen is that there is a private forum for the 1st 1000 backers. I'm #40214 so backed SC quiet early but maybe not early enough :)
Currently sort of enjoying drones @15fps low with red dots so MP can wait until my new parts arrive.

Wow I signed up 12 Oct 2012 and i'm #33474, a lot of people singed up in those 6 days!!!

Well, they had a sweet deal on to get the ball rolling so to speak.
From memory is was Lifetime Hull Insurance with the promise of Alpha access, and one or the other would no longer be available when the website re-launched?

Lifetime insurance I think? Which reminds me, is that only on the ship that's in that particular game package? Probably worth upgrading to something better than an Aurora if it is...

Only hull insurance. Load outs, cargo are not insured I think.
Also, I believe the in-game insurance to buy I think is time limited, so no matter how much you die, you always get your hull back. So it's not that much of a game changer, just a little help to get you rolling without fear of being really ship-less.

I have a 300i and no plans to change it right now as it's a fairly significant outlay to upgrade it to the Hornet which iirc is the only hull I could change it to. Hmmmm, I wonder if I could move it to the 325 variant cheaply though?

I moved up to the 325a  was £12 or something

Quote from: BrotherTobious;385136Wow I signed up 12 Oct 2012 and i'm #33474, a lot of people singed up in those 6 days!!!

And I discussed it with you at the time iirc and then forgot to get around to backing, so I'm number #331747!

I am not a number!

Quote from: suicidal_monkey;385156I am not a number!

*coughs*

dMw member #113 (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/member.php?113-suicidal_monkey)


:getmecoat:

Quote from: TeaLeaf;385159dMw member #113 (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/member.php?113-suicidal_monkey)

Weird, in tapatalk that link takes me to a v.old post by sheepy :-)

The star citizen informer app tells me I am #350393 though my laptop gpu is too slow right now for the alpha anyway. It's really hard to hold off upgrading but I know the money will go further if I wait until next year... That's what I keep telling myself at any rate!

Quote from: BrotherTobious;385142I moved up to the 325a  was £12 or something

Why does Mr Credit Card have to agree with you? MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Still, the 325a is a pretty nice starter ship :)

Quote from: Twisted;385191Why does Mr Credit Card have to agree with you? MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Still, the 325a is a pretty nice starter ship :)

How long before I give in, get the cross-chassis upgrade from Aurora to 300i and then upgrade to 325a... :(

The default lasers on the Aurora are some real weak sauce.

I reckon about another week

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