Attendees of the LAN, we are ever trying to make the LAN better and better and we have noticed that quite a number of our Cables are pretty old and used.
So we have purchased some for the back bone of the network, Switch to switch, Servers etc. But all extra have been or in the process of being destroyed.
So Please please please can you make sure that you have your own CAT6 cable, we will be testing each cable as they are being used with a tester.
It is very important as we will not have any spare that you bring your cable. You can get them from Amazon see our afflitate link:
http://astore.amazon.co.uk/deadmenwalkin-21/detail/B00J3V1OXE
Thank you for reading this and looking forward to seeing you all at the LAN!!!
BrotherTobious / Ninja_Freak
i have plenty of lan cables i'll be bringing along
Quote from: Sneakytiger;387841i have plenty of lan cables i'll be bringing along
Just make sure they're CAT6 and tested.
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http://astore.amazon.co.uk/deadmenwalkin-21/detail/B00J3V1OXE
Other lengths are available!
will do
Can we make do with CAT5e?
think mine are all cat 5 if i'm honest
CAT6 is the standard please. It's not a huge investment on your part.
if i havent got cat 6 i'll get some, how many would we need and what lengths?
You only need one.
We've bought all the infrastructure cabling so it's only a case of connecting your machine to the network.
The longest run between the end of a table and a switch is 18ft which is just over 5M so 5M or 10m would be fine.
Whatever you choose PLEASE DO NOT BUY ORANGE CABLES AS THIS IS THE COLOUR OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ONES.
Plenty to choose from here: http://astore.amazon.co.uk/deadmenwalkin-21/search?node=41&keywords=cat+6+cable&x=14&y=5&preview=
Thanks
I may bring a spool with me as the plan is to wire the house with CAT 6 when we get the keys so there may be some left over.
Already discussed this with Chaos and Peanut.
and did they approve of you wiring your house with Cat 6? :flirty:
I am a little bit confused about this after a conversation with Toby on the make your own cable vs buying pre-made.
It sounds like making your own is not preferable to buying a crappy ebay special or cheap sweatshop made cable from amazon. TBH I have more confidence on my own ability to do a good job over mass produced cheap tat. I agree that stability is important and having poor cabling may cause issues, however spending £5 from amazon on a length of cable is just as likely to fail at the LAN rather than using a higher grade spool if you know what you are doing when cutting and crimping cables. Having spent the outlay for a tester, crimper and a spool I am a little confused to why we are expected to invest in a subsequent purchase of potentially something of inferior quality materials and potentially poorer build quality. Granted there is more comeback as you can send the cabling back to EBay or amazon if faulty however if it breaks at the LAN its too late to get a replacement.
I agree with thought behind it as we all want a more stable network at the LAN, but ultimately enforcing this type of thing will cause more problems. Buying a pre-built PC doesn't mean you will get a better more reliable PC than if you build it yourself. Its the same for these cables, the sum of their parts and build need to be taken into account.
Rant over...
DZ
Without wishing to over-simplify the conversation, I think all we needed was to make sure everyone turns up with a decent length network cable to plug into the switch.
Also some of us international attendees would love to borrow some power cables for our laptop adapters etc. I only require 1 standard PSU cable myself :)
Re cat6. I thought we were going to have a tester? Test them all no matter home grown or over the counter. Job done.
Re power cables for internationals. We should start a new thread.
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It only takes a second to test a cable, I don't see why home-made ones should be banned - most people probably won't bother making their own.
I don't think anyone has banned anything have they? Let's just turn up with our cables, test them and plug in. I'll try to remember to bring my cable tester, but if others could also bring some it will be quicker for all.
I did speak with dz saying based on our last experience that building your own cat6 may cause issues due to it being hard to keep the twist tight and it will just be a cat 5 and if he was using premisies cable.
Which I meant no offence by and if I have then I apologise. If we are happy to use home built we will test and use them. I was only basing it on my own experiences and trying to help.
Once again if I have offended anyone then I apologise and happy to run with the above.
Toby
Quote from: Vargen;387922Also some of us international attendees would love to borrow some power cables for our laptop adapters etc. I only require 1 standard PSU cable myself :)
I will try to bring what I have... have a few cables like that lying around from guitar amps etc.
Quote from: Vargen;387922Also some of us international attendees would love to borrow some power cables for our laptop adapters etc. I only require 1 standard PSU cable myself :)
I've put half a dozen power cables in with the LAN cabling we purchased for you funny-plugged people. Is that enough?
Quote from: Penfold;387996I've put half a dozen power cables in with the LAN cabling we purchased for you funny-plugged people. Is that enough?
That should be plenty I would think. Thanks Pen! :cheers:
think i have a box of assorted cables i'll have a look and bring what might be useful.
I intend to take (I mean borrow :rolleyes:) a few Cat6 armored cables from work
I have an ethernet cable. Perhaps one of the testers can tell me what breed of cat it is when I get there.
It's "breed" should be marked on the cable itself.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Duronic-CAT6a-Professional-Shielded-Network-Black/dp/B003CL99FQ/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412947847&sr=1-10&keywords=duronic+cat6
ordered to the lan
Don't you need a grounded switch for metal head RJ45?
hope there ok cause i just spent £20 pound on them, else i'll be bringing normal cat 5's
I would have throught it would be fine as both ends are grounded given their housing so wouldn't overly worry.
Spending most of my day working with networks lately, there seems to be something I've missed completely. Can anyone give me a decent reason why a 5 meter length of 5e is insufficient for a connection between an access switch and a client? Have you lot invested in 10GBASE-T access ports?
Despite having a rather new motherboard (Asus Z87 Sabertooth, with an Intel® I217V NIC), there's no support for those kinds of speed on it. Its a 1GBASE-T NIC. Cat5e is certified for 1GBASE-T in stretches up to 100 meters (and will do full duplex at stretches up to 30 meters), so despite Cat6 being only 20% more expensive, can someone give me a reason why I should go through the hassle of buying one when I have a store room full of brand new 5e in various lengths? I fail to see how using cables that neither the switch nor the NIC's can fully utilize increases stability.
Yes, for people having to buy new cables, or people unsure of the quality of their cables, 6e (when did that become a recognized standard by the way? It wasn't when I first looked into getting one) is the better choice. Futureproof and all that, but it's not really necessary until we're at 10gigabit across the board.
I agree with Faust as none of us will get 10 GIG but.....
I think the undertone is that people wanted to find a way to make everyone buy new cabling due to the problems cause from past LANs where people have been using the same old cable time after time, getting slowly more tatty till it has faults which are a nightmare of the LAN network without managed switches.
There will be testing carried out... My order still not has arrived for my spool of cat6 and if if doesn't I am planning on bringing a new CAT 5e cable in its packaging for inspection by Toby or whoever has the tester. Hell I will bring my tester too!
DZ
Oh hush you silly Viking.
You're using all those technical words which I don't understand which is a little distressing as it's not even your mother tongue.
DZ (miraculously some may say), has put it very succinctly. We have had problems over the last few lans with bad cabling so it's more of an general request to upgrade. Don't worry about bringing a cat6 cable. I appreciate it's very heavy so I'll bring you one along with the power supplies and other stuff you can't be arsed to bring yourself.
Would you like me to provide anything else? My first born for ritual sacrifice perhaps.
Look forward you to seeing you (ish).
:)
Quote from: faust82;389147Yes, for people having to buy new cables, or people unsure of the quality of their cables, 6e (when did that become a recognized standard by the way? It wasn't when I first looked into getting one) is the better choice.
I believe you are referring to this line with in the packing instructions?
QuoteEthernet cable - preferably as long as you can get (10m would be great) and Cat6e IS THE NEW STANDARD PLEASE
Thank you for pointing this is out as it is a mistake I hastily edited the post and forgot to delete the "e" off. Your correct it hasnt been ratified, CAT6A has. I have edited the post.
Also DZ has got it right the reason why we are suggesting to use CAT6 mainly to get rid of duff cables and we also wanted to hammer home the point that there will be no spares at the LAN.
In passing we have suggesting the use of the CAT6 for as long as I have been helping with running them and it seems only now that we are having a issue with this??
Maybe it is the way I have communicated what we were trying to achive but alas I failed it again. Anyway I hope that has cleared this up.
Quote from: Penfold;389180DZ (miraculously some may say), has put it very succinctly.
:crying: Fine words from a PR man there.
Quote from: Penfold;389180Would you like me to provide anything else?
There was the matter of the goat and the alcohol-resistant lipstick we talked about. Were you able to procure those? Oh, and I also seem to have misplaced the frog repellant...
To answer a previous question, no, the sex of the goat doesn't matter. GhostMjr will be surprised either way.
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This is thread is getting passive aggressive really fast.. Which is rather impressive as we're talking ethernet cables in here :-)
Cheer up folks we're only five days out from a good time!
yep gonna bring some beers for u faust
At my place of work we now are using cat7 cabling for cloud related companies and is fast becoming the standard, if your interested I will explain more over a beer at the lan as to why and the difference.
For the purpose of gaming at the lan Cat5. Cat5a, Cat6 or even cat7 copper cables are good enough for what is required. Just make sure it is not 5 years old and not had a kitten/dog/child chewing on the end. At the end of the day these are copper cables which are very durable although limited for what you want to do.... Fiber is a whole different story.
Still waiting for mine too arrive just would be nice to have new cables in my opinion, fingers cross for everything network related to go smoothly :)
Guys, I'm seriously low on luggage space this LAN due to a USB hub and Joystick and Throttle coming. Unless I can find a really good packing method I may not be bringing cheese this time round.
I may also need to borrow a LAN cable but we'll see. I have my Samsung ATIV to bring as my command and control screen as well. So after the cheese getting dropped the LAN cable is next.
Trouble is there are now too many delicate parts to pack in a laptop case, TrackIR etc.
Sorry.
Cheers,
Bert
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You guys seriously need to get laid.. or alternatively go to a LAN..
Quote from: Sneakytiger;389188yep gonna bring some beers for u faust
Umm.....?
I presume from the bar to the gaming room? :)
Don't ask don't tell... 😛
Quote from: albert;389205Guys, I'm seriously low on luggage space this LAN due to a USB hub and Joystick and Throttle coming. Unless I can find a really good packing method I may not be bringing cheese this time round.
I may also need to borrow a LAN cable but we'll see. I have my Samsung ATIV to bring as my command and control screen as well. So after the cheese getting dropped the LAN cable is next.
Trouble is there are now too many delicate parts to pack in a laptop case, TrackIR etc.
Sorry.
Cheers,
Bert
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Got you covered and do you want my monitor again?
Quote from: Penfold;389219Umm.....?
I presume from the bar to the gaming room? :)
What he actually means is tequila Pen for the Friday night! :D
Okay, so I bought a cat 6 cable now.. About 4 quid.. Maybe I'll just shut up in here now 😀
I hope you bought the right colour? :norty:
All orange, as specified. Right?
Not that it's any different from 5e on visual inspection. Didn't have a Fluke nearby to test it, but I strongly suspect it's bare-minimum. Seemed like a cheapo brand :p
My cable is rainbow colour like my heart.