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Title: Future concept sales plan.
Post by: smilodon on September 19, 2014, 10:59:08 PM
A nice and welcome change to the way ships are announced and sold. Week long flash sales with lower prices and the return of LTI. Seriously looking forward to seeing what my next purchase will look like....  although I'm struggling to choose between

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  • Aegis Reclaimer â€" The Reclaimer (formerly  Surveyor), from noted military contractor Aegis, is an  industrial-quality salvage ship. Equipped with a reinforced cargo bay, a  long-range jump drive and launch pods for unmanned drones, the  Reclaimer is an ideal ship for taking advantage of deep space wrecks.  Tractor beams, floodlights, scanner options and docking ports round out  the tool chest on this capable, utilitarian spacecraft.
  • Anvil Carrack â€" The Anvil Carrack has been the vanguard of every UEE  exploration effort in recent years. Featuring reinforced fuel tanks for  long-duration flight, a highly advanced jump drive array and a  dedicated computer core room that allows it to put the maximum  processing power into jump charting operations. Originally a military  exclusive, the Carrack is now available for civilian use as a pathfinder  spacecraft. Features on-board accommodations to allow for truly  self-sufficient flight, including crew medical and repair facilities,  and a mapping-oriented sensor suite capable of always charting a route  home!

:g:
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Post by: Galatoni on September 20, 2014, 08:24:25 AM
Those two are the two im interested in as well. Thing is, with the Phoenix in my hanger, i'm not sure I want to shell out for either of these. Plus they're in limited runs so chances are we won't know which is cheaper.
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Post by: OldBloke on September 20, 2014, 10:30:18 AM
They're the two that stick out for me too.

The Reclaimer would be an great addition to our fleet. There are lots of exploration ships available but this ship serves a unique role insomuch as it's designed to salvage. Other ships can be fitted with tractor beams etc. but this baby is an industrial-strength salvager.

The Carrack appeals to my explorer side and I would seriously consider melting my Aquila to get one. But as it also has the medical and repair functions then it too would be very useful in team operations.

It's decided. We need them both :D
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Post by: Galatoni on September 20, 2014, 11:19:26 AM
I had no idea they were going to do this. I will seriously consider melting my Phoenix and Aurora for either of these. We should maybe coordinate who/what people should consider buying. For me, I'm a big SAR fan, and I feel the Carrack will fit that role. However, we're a team and we should try to decide what will work best. I can see the Reclaimer will be able to grind (literally?) credits in no time. The sale starts on Friday.
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Post by: OldBloke on September 20, 2014, 11:38:45 AM
Quote from: Galatoni;388046... We should maybe coordinate who/what people should consider buying.

A very good point. In addition I guess we also need to explore how we can purchase these ships from a (for lack of a better term) guild bank :g:
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Post by: OldBloke on September 20, 2014, 11:54:06 AM
CIG have confirmed that buyers of the Gladius and Khartu-al (Xi'An Scout) will now get LTI with those ships as they too were concept sales.
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Post by: BrotherTobious on September 20, 2014, 12:45:23 PM
I like the drake as I think tl does too that could be useful from time to time.
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Post by: Galatoni on September 20, 2014, 02:39:02 PM
Sorry. I'm 30 and missed.most of the mmo stuff. How would a bank work? I'm confused. Is it like the 'tax' I paid to my guild on eve?
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Post by: smilodon on September 20, 2014, 04:24:34 PM
MMO's tend to have a facility for 'guilds' to tax players a small part of their earnings. The guild can also often be given rare and or saleable items to sell on the auction houses or markets. Then guild funds can be used to repair players equipment, buy in game resources and fund guild activities etc. If SC has a guild bank feature we could possibly use it to buy ships or upgrades etc. that we need? I've no idea if this is in the works though.

I'm probably going to get the Reclaimer. It depends on the cost but I would rather get it earlier and get LTI on it. Of course as yet we have little idea if and how we will get hold of ships in game, so it's not easy to decide to buy now or buy in game?? I doubt these bigger ships will be trivial to acquire in game though. So it's probably going to be an advanced purchase.

I just love the idea of scanning a distant system and picking up a contact. Then closing in on this vast, dark, dead leviathan and lighting it up with floodlights before sending in the drones to strip the guts out of it. Hopefully the Reclaimer will be a big, fat, ugly and oily old tug boat belching fumes and smoke into space and it trundles along.
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Post by: Galatoni on September 20, 2014, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: smilodon;388054MMO's tend to have a facility for 'guilds' to tax players a small part of their earnings. The guild can also often be given rare and or saleable items to sell on the auction houses or markets. Then guild funds can be used to repair players equipment, buy in game resources and fund guild activities etc. If SC has a guild bank feature we could possibly use it to buy ships or upgrades etc. that we need? I've no idea if this is in the works though.

Thanks for that. Its something I do remember from EVE, but its always been something i've contributed to but never saw the benefit of. Shame really. From the people i've met so far, it seems different here.

Quote from: smilodon;388054I'm probably going to get the Reclaimer. It depends on the cost but I would rather get it earlier and get LTI on it. Of course as yet we have little idea if and how we will get hold of ships in game, so it's not easy to decide to buy now or buy in game?? I doubt these bigger ships will be trivial to acquire in game though. So it's probably going to be an advanced purchase.

If the larger ships are going to be covered by org members, then its all good (obviously more the merrier). I'm SO hoping they'll let us melt our pledges and get maybe some other pledges with the other, larger, ships. We'll see I guess -  its going to be the only way i'll be able to afford one. I'll be looking closely to see what options become available over the next few weeks. I really like my Rear Admiral (*chortle*) pack and the other bits and pieces it comes with. Wonder if we'll see the new ships as an addon to replace our existing ships? I can only hope.

Quote from: smilodon;388054I just love the idea of scanning a distant system and picking up a contact. Then closing in on this vast, dark, dead leviathan and lighting it up with floodlights before sending in the drones to strip the guts out of it. Hopefully the Reclaimer will be a big, fat, ugly and oily old tug boat belching fumes and smoke into space and it trundles along.

Were you a script writer for James Cameron on the Alien series?
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Post by: smilodon on September 20, 2014, 06:02:45 PM
Ha ha. I'm really looking forward to the advert for the Reclaimer.
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Post by: albert on September 21, 2014, 12:35:46 PM
I found out yesterday a buddy of mine has been pledging to the game. He's got a Frigate! Of course I tried to entice him over to our web site although he's with a clan already that have many hundreds of players but they are US based so you never know, and he's a top bloke as well.
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 21, 2014, 12:42:36 PM
Idris owners are rare, nice find and good luck with the persuading!
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Post by: OldBloke on September 21, 2014, 07:17:54 PM
Quote from: albert;388069I found out yesterday a buddy of mine has been pledging to the game. He's got a Frigate! Of course I tried to entice him over to our web site although he's with a clan already that have many hundreds of players but they are US based so you never know, and he's a top bloke as well.

Tell him he'll enjoy it more in an Org where *everyone* will know him by his name - not just his tag.

Back on topic ...

The rumour mill on the concept sale has spat out that the 890 Jump is not the ship being sold this Friday and that there's a very good chance that it won't be any of the other ships on the list (https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14159-Future-Concept-Sale-Plans) either.

Punters are currently fingering the Xi'An Freighter as the likely candidate with the Hull C as second choice. We'll soon know :D
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Post by: OldBloke on September 25, 2014, 07:05:31 PM
The Aegis Reclaimer (the specialist salvager) goes on sale tomorrow.

It looks fantastic ...

(http://www.starcitizen-wiki.de/images/9/95/Reclaimer_concept.jpg)
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Post by: Galatoni on September 25, 2014, 07:37:39 PM
... Is anyone good to lend me the rest so I can melt my Connie?  :narnar:
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 25, 2014, 07:40:09 PM
Bugger, there goes my wallet again.......

That looks god-damn stunning :blink:
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Post by: smilodon on September 25, 2014, 10:13:43 PM
The rumour mill is saying it will cost around $250. Much as I love what Star Citizen are doing and love the concept and look of the Reclaimer that's not the sort of money I'm willing to spend on a digital asset. I'll wait till the game launches and earn it in-game.
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Post by: Galatoni on September 25, 2014, 10:52:33 PM
What would people think about 'shared' assets? Maybe get a mini buy-in or something? Obviously shelling out 250 in one go is steep, but the asset would serve the team well (and with LTI as well it would generate profit well!). I ain't suggesting me for a second - but one of the other more respected members.

Call me crazy - it sounds it after all. But is it crazy enough to work, you think?
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Post by: smilodon on September 25, 2014, 11:39:14 PM
To be honest RSI have had enough of my money and I suspect enough of everyone else's. Ship Insurance is, in the words of Chris Roberts a 'trivial' cost and I'm happy enough to get more ships in game which will just cost effort and not cash. We don't yet know how the game play will work related to ship acquisition, and I hope big ships will require lots of time and effort to get hold of but everything we can buy we can also get in game. So I'm sure we can have a full complement of ships either way
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Post by: OldBloke on September 26, 2014, 01:14:01 AM
350 bucks . I'm out.
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Post by: Lameduck on September 26, 2014, 08:06:43 AM
I don't know why, but the more I see how SC is marketed, the South Sea Bubble haunts my memory :g:
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 26, 2014, 08:07:01 AM
$350 is too much imo, but I guess it has to fit into their range of existing ship prices somehow, I'd hoped it would be nearer $200 though.   Mind you, if by 'big' they mean 'really big' then it might make it marginally more understandable (if still gob-smackingly expensive).
Title: Future concept sales plan.
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 26, 2014, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: Lameduck;388276I don't know why, but the more I see how SC is marketed, the South Sea Bubble haunts my memory :g:
At least we all knew it's a gamble and we didn't go into it looking to get rich from it.   That is at least a difference!

That having been said, I'm significantly cash positive on some of the ships I bought early on! :P
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Post by: Galatoni on September 26, 2014, 08:14:22 AM
$350! Yea, I was thinking more like $200! Too much! I shall keep the pimp mobile...

..now I just need a screw driver and wrench to get that hot tub out - still kinda hacked off about that if i'm honest.
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Post by: albert on September 26, 2014, 09:03:05 AM
So where do I find this behemoth? Can't see it in the store etc.
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 26, 2014, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: albert;388285So where do I find this behemoth? Can't see it in the store etc.

Post #15 of this thread, or when it gets released for sale later today (along with a bunch more artwork and probably more spec info).
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Post by: albert on September 26, 2014, 09:11:44 AM
Quote from: TeaLeaf;388286Post #15 of this thread, or when it gets released for sale later today (along with a bunch more artwork and probably more spec info).

The "later today part" is important! Well look at it this way. In Netherlands iPhone 6 is release. You could get 3 reclaimers for the price of a 6+ 128GB! Just the idea of becoming the organizations recycling ship sounds a little un-glamorous!
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Post by: OldBloke on September 26, 2014, 10:48:30 AM
Quote from: albert;388287... Just the idea of becoming the organizations recycling ship sounds a little un-glamorous!

It actually appeals to me (and Smilo by what he posted earlier). I would enjoy having that role within the Org and I am tempted to melt some assets to achieve it. But I also want to explore so those assets might be needed to get the Carrack :doh:

The price is high for all the reasons already stated but in addition the price has to be set to limit the number of ships of a certain type that will be purchased and, as such, out there on PU day 1 (e.g. the Idris).

In terms of what we need as a fleet then a couple of Reclaimers and Orions would be ideal.
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Post by: Galatoni on September 26, 2014, 11:13:23 AM
I don't know how. But if I can help I will.
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Post by: OldBloke on September 26, 2014, 11:36:31 AM
Quote from: Galatoni;388294I don't know how. But if I can help I will.

I did have a quick discussion with TL about whether we could consider a central fund to purchase ships where members would be asked to contribute voluntarily to that fund.

We came to the conclusion that, all things considered, it wouldn't work. The way forward would be for us to get the ships/equipment we need using the in-game mechanisms after release.
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Post by: Arcon on September 27, 2014, 07:50:55 AM
I'll be picking this up today! Looks absolutely stunning.
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 27, 2014, 08:14:54 AM
It is a seriously attractive bit of kit and it fits right into the 'too bad at PVP, so going to do salvage instead' style of play that I like! :

It's a 5 person ship now and HUGE.   Can't wait to see it in a monstrous, industrial-sized space hangar :dribble:
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Post by: OldBloke on September 27, 2014, 08:26:24 AM
$600,000 taken on this ship in just under 12 hours :blink:
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Post by: Galatoni on September 27, 2014, 08:48:22 AM
Wow! Well. Can't argue with the view of it. Beautiful for a recycling ship. Arcon ?  need a crew member? ;)
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Post by: Galatoni on September 27, 2014, 08:49:55 AM
$600k?! Hell ! Mr Roberts will be happy
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Post by: Whitey on September 27, 2014, 09:09:28 AM
Quote from: OldBloke;388273350 bucks . I'm out.

Same here.  I was really tempted by this one but it'll have to wait until I can get it in game.
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 27, 2014, 10:29:04 AM
Even the description is tempting, I mean just read it again :dribble:

QuoteA dedicated salvage and reclamation platform, the Reclaimer is the perfect ship for venturing into the ‘Verse in search of riches and secrets. Whether you’re churning debris fields for raw ore or searching for lost artifacts, the Reclaimer is built for utility. The life of a salvager can be tough, but with technology like the Reclaimer behind you it can be a profitable way to make your living among the stars.

Aegis has built the perfect ship for those that want to write their own Star Citizen story. Equipped with a massive multi-tool arm, the Reclaimer can grab spaceborne salvage and then carry it aboard for processing. In addition to a large cargo hold, the hull is packed with reclamation equipment capable of processing and storing up to a Constellation worth of salvage!

The Reclaimer’s turrets are multi-use hardpoints which can be mounted with defensive guns, missile batteries, additional tractor beams, floodlights, scanners or other salvage-specific options. The ship carries an array of Surveyor-class drones for seeking out valuable items in the distant depths.

Additionally, it includes a manned cutter which may be deployed for EVA/recovery operations. We intend the game’s salvage mechanic to include a ‘search and recovery’ function in which players will exit their spacecraft in suits and maneuvering units to explore wreckage. Pocket spacecraft like the cutter will carry tools and supplies and transport recovered artifacts back aboard ship.
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Post by: smilodon on September 27, 2014, 10:53:42 AM
The trouble is there's plenty of time for more ships to arrive that also blow us away. My must have list is getting a little long now Reclaimer, Herald, Carrack...... at least we won't get bored :D
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 27, 2014, 11:06:19 AM
Quote from: Arcon;388338I'll be picking this up today! Looks absolutely stunning.
Is that yours I see in the DMW Fleet?
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Post by: Gorion on September 27, 2014, 11:11:17 AM
Those tractor beams, any idea if they can hold a live ship and tear it to pieces as an offensive/defensive move?
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 27, 2014, 11:17:15 AM
Quote from: Gorion;388352Those tractor beams, any idea if they can hold a live ship and tear it to pieces as an offensive/defensive move?
No idea at the moment, but it's an interesting possibility.  

Although I still reckon the Pipe Bomb weapon was the most evil of all time.  If you get the chance, watch the video, it's pretty funny once you get past the thorazine-induced narration.   First half of the video is about the history leading up to the 'invention' of the pipe bomb in EVE and the last half is the practical demo of it viewed from live video and audio streams from both sides of the battle.   Thoroughly entertaining in my opinion!

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Post by: BrotherTobious on September 27, 2014, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: TeaLeaf;388351Is that yours I see in the DMW Fleet?
There are 2 now I wonder who brought the other one

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Post by: Galatoni on September 27, 2014, 02:53:42 PM
Bloody hell though! That's a lot of penny sweets worth!
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Post by: BrotherTobious on September 27, 2014, 03:33:31 PM
Imagine the number of 1/2 penny sweets

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Post by: albert on September 27, 2014, 05:51:45 PM
Job Vacancies - 4 slots available, must know the ways to tell aluminum from steel!

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Post by: albert on September 27, 2014, 05:57:19 PM
Quote from: albert;388361Job Vacancies - 4 slots available, must know the ways to tell aluminium from steel!

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Post by: Gorion on September 27, 2014, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: albert;388361Job Vacancies - 4 slots available, must know the ways to tell aluminum from steel!

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Magnets!

Also, aluminum corrodes when in contact with other metals, unless you use a type of chemical/plastic spacer.
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 27, 2014, 06:23:45 PM
Gratz Albert! :thumbsup:
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Post by: albert on September 27, 2014, 06:27:10 PM
Quote from: Gorion;388364Magnets!

Also, aluminum corrodes when in contact with other metals, unless you use a type of chemical/plastic spacer.

I pay real bad but if you want a job, you can man the tractor beam!
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Post by: Lameduck on September 27, 2014, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: albert;388361Job Vacancies - 4 slots available, must know the ways to tell aluminum from steel!


scrap steel is about £215 per metric tonne whilst Ali is about £1925
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Post by: Galatoni on September 27, 2014, 07:39:41 PM
Nice Albert! What you going to name her?
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Post by: Gorion on September 27, 2014, 10:30:08 PM
Quote from: Galatoni;388370Nice Albert! What you going to name her?

"The Ripper"?
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Post by: Justin Tolerable on September 28, 2014, 09:36:03 PM
Yeah... we can add another one to the fleet.  Hi there!  I'm new and I'm addicted to SC ;D
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 28, 2014, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: Justin Tolerable;388414Yeah... we can add another one to the fleet.  Hi there!  I'm new and I'm addicted to SC ;D
I think that makes 4 then (if Arcon followed through and picked up one too).    Welcome to the addiction.
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Post by: Galatoni on September 28, 2014, 09:55:30 PM
Quote from: Justin Tolerable;388414Yeah... we can add another one to the fleet.  Hi there!  I'm new and I'm addicted to SC ;D
Me too, Justin... me too.

Great isn't it? ;)
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Post by: Justin Tolerable on September 28, 2014, 09:59:58 PM
Yeah.  I love it.  I honestly wasn't expecting to pick one up, but hey.  It has a giant robot claw.  I now have a ship capable of both arm wrestling AND high fives.  I'm still planning to pick up a Carrack, if the price is right.

Our exploration fleets are going to be amazing.

EDIT:  Ah, I meant new *here*.  I've been addicted to SC since the kickstarter :D
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Post by: OldBloke on September 28, 2014, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: Justin Tolerable;388414Yeah... we can add another one to the fleet.  Hi there!  I'm new and I'm addicted to SC ;D

Hi JT. Welcome to the club :thumb:
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Post by: Justin Tolerable on September 28, 2014, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;388419Hi JT. Welcome to the club :thumb:

Why thank you!  I've added my stuff to the fleet page and just settling in now.  You seem like a nice bunch :)
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Post by: OldBloke on October 25, 2014, 12:48:45 AM
Drake Herald on sale from Friday for 85 bucks. I'll be getting one either for future CCU or for the Carrack savings plan :D
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Post by: Gorion on October 25, 2014, 12:58:43 AM
You mean this weekend, or the next?
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Post by: OldBloke on October 25, 2014, 08:08:08 AM
Quote from: Gorion;389773You mean this weekend, or the next?

Sorry. From Friday 31st October.

QuoteInfo Runner - The Drake Herald, small, armored ship, is designed to safely get that information from Point A to Point B. Featuring a powerful central engine (for high speed transit and generating the power needed for effective data encryption/containment), advanced encryption software and an armored computer core, the Herald is unique among personal spacecraft in that it is designed to be easily ‘cleaned’ when in danger of capture.
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Post by: Galatoni on October 25, 2014, 09:41:04 AM
I'm tempted by this one. Certainly interested to see how the different play styles pan out. Who is interested?
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Post by: AndyBee on October 25, 2014, 09:48:41 AM
Quote from: Galatoni;389779I'm tempted by this one. Certainly interested to see how the different play styles pan out. Who is interested?

Yeah me too.... Just hoping the sale lasts until Monday so I get back off holiday in time to check out the details... They usually do at least 7 days and ben said the sale starts Fri/Sat so given the time difference even if it's a 7 day sale I should make it back into the country and WiFi range just in time !
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Post by: TeaLeaf on October 25, 2014, 10:43:03 AM
Definitely getting one as per what Oldie said.  

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Post by: Justin Tolerable on October 25, 2014, 11:00:08 AM
Yep, I'll be getting one or two :)
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Post by: Obsydian on October 25, 2014, 12:33:02 PM
Yeah, cant resist really...unless it's a really ugly ship! :)
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Post by: AndyBee on October 25, 2014, 06:58:22 PM
Does anyone know if you buy a ship with part store credit and part cash, is it still giftable ?

I may melt my spare Aurora to put towards it, but maybe not if it removes the ability to gift it later...
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Post by: Justin Tolerable on October 25, 2014, 07:20:13 PM
You won't be able to gift it, I'm afraid :(
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Post by: AndyBee on October 25, 2014, 09:18:24 PM
Quote from: Justin Tolerable;389803You won't be able to gift it, I'm afraid :(

No worries, at least it's decently priced I guess, I'll add one for the PU/Future CCU ability/Carrack fund I guess ! :D