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Title: Track ir
Post by: Sneakytiger on September 21, 2014, 03:03:32 PM
been looking at this, seems u can buy the sensor and the headset clip separately

how many people have got this?
should i buy the sensor first as both seem out of stock at the moment.
Title: Track ir
Post by: BrotherTobious on September 21, 2014, 03:49:46 PM
A number of us have it to my knowledge, i got mine from the flight store where it had everything in one box.

http://www.flightstore.co.uk/pilot-supplies-c1/torches-c179/track-ir-5-with-track-clip-pro-bundle-and-vector-clip-p2502

Hope that helps
Title: Track ir
Post by: Seany on September 21, 2014, 03:54:33 PM
Yeah, I have version 4.

The Clip is way more accurate than the hat, but it is like it is made from eggshells, you have to be really,really careful with it.

For minor/general head movement (like racing etc) The hat reflector is ok.  But if you want to be very accurate, like looking around a cockpit to click buttons ect, the Clip is much better.
Title: Track ir
Post by: OldBloke on September 21, 2014, 03:54:52 PM
Quote from: BrotherTobious;388074A number of us have it to my knowledge, i got mine from the flight store where it had everything in one box.

http://www.flightstore.co.uk/pilot-supplies-c1/torches-c179/track-ir-5-with-track-clip-pro-bundle-and-vector-clip-p2502

Hope that helps

Wot 'e said.

Personally, I would order them together, Sneaky.
Title: Track ir
Post by: Galatoni on September 21, 2014, 04:01:27 PM
I have successfully made a Very cheap conversion of a PlayStation eye camera. It's a bit of hassle but it works great. You can then use their clip or build your own. The are even no ir alternatives that just use webcam. Face track is the name of that. Totally free!
Title: Track ir
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 21, 2014, 04:48:44 PM
Mine arrived the other day, not had time to install it yet as my old Dell monitor seems to be bigger and more rounded than the sensor clip allows for, so I need to figure out how to attach it.
Title: Track ir
Post by: Sneakytiger on September 21, 2014, 05:13:34 PM
i'm awaiting flightstore to get back in stock of ir5 then i'll order 1 there price seems the best.
Title: Track ir
Post by: Blunt on September 21, 2014, 06:29:01 PM
Quote from: TeaLeaf;388080Mine arrived the other day, not had time to install it yet as my old Dell monitor seems to be bigger and more rounded than the sensor clip allows for, so I need to figure out how to attach it.

Sounds like a job for Sugru (http://sugru.com/)
Title: Track ir
Post by: OldBloke on September 21, 2014, 06:34:34 PM
Quote from: TeaLeaf;388080Mine arrived the other day, not had time to install it yet as my old Dell monitor seems to be bigger and more rounded than the sensor clip allows for, so I need to figure out how to attach it.

My sensor just sits on top - no clip. You are putting the right element on the monitor :D
Title: Track ir
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 21, 2014, 06:51:24 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;388089My sensor just sits on top - no clip. You are putting the right element on the monitor :D
This bit:

(http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/images/home/home-trackir5-simhq-box.jpg)

The down bit of the legs is still on the curved rear of my monitor when it ends, so it ends up losing grip if you have placed it there - unless the legs are not meant to be attached to the monitor at all.....?
Title: Track ir
Post by: sulky_uk on September 21, 2014, 07:03:54 PM
mine slips as the top of my monitor is curved a little as well....i was doing my head in , so i just put a small amount of blue tack on the bottom and boom...that b**th dont move no more
Title: Track ir
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 21, 2014, 07:10:30 PM
That was what I was going to do as well :roflmao:

Apparently newer thin-bezel monitors have the opposite problem in that the feet hang into the picture which requires a snip of the scissors to trim the feet shorter.

Ah well, one solution was never going to fit all monitors....
Title: Track ir
Post by: Galatoni on September 21, 2014, 07:46:40 PM
They should just have the thing ship with a chunk of blu-tack! It'd make things easier.

"Installation Instructions: Mold Polymer Resin into position and stick unit at desired angle."
Title: Track ir
Post by: Lameduck on September 23, 2014, 01:02:39 PM
Back in stock @ Flightstore.
One ordered :D
Title: Track ir
Post by: sulky_uk on September 23, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
nice one LD youll not regret it. Epic bits of kit
Title: Track ir
Post by: Sneakytiger on September 23, 2014, 01:23:58 PM
Just placed my order
Title: Track ir
Post by: sulky_uk on September 23, 2014, 02:09:31 PM
coolio sneaky its epic in arma
Title: Track ir
Post by: Galatoni on September 24, 2014, 12:27:51 PM
Anyone had any experience with FaceTrack and the PSeye camera? I've got one camera with a IR pass filter in (basically the same as trackIR uses without the pre-processing) and an unmodified camera. I couldn't get either to work properly with arma. Was always a bit twitchy no matter what settings/curves/voodoo I managed. Anyone shed any light on it? I really wanted to get this working for Elite: D and Star Citizen properly.

Before you say it... I know. I could've just bought one... but £150! I'm too tight for that :narnar:
Title: Track ir
Post by: Sneakytiger on September 24, 2014, 01:16:47 PM
Be nice if u could use kinect 2.0 on the pc
Title: Track ir
Post by: Galatoni on September 24, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
Aye. They don't like Microsoft devices being used with Microsoft products.

Wait? What?
Title: Track ir
Post by: OldBloke on September 24, 2014, 03:51:06 PM
Arcon has built his own TrackIR gizmo.
Title: Track ir
Post by: Arcon on September 24, 2014, 06:33:07 PM
takes a bit of soldering and flashing code to set it up, but id be happy to set one up for anyone, just pay for the parts.
Title: Track ir
Post by: Galatoni on September 24, 2014, 08:14:51 PM
Quote from: Arcon;388225takes a bit of soldering and flashing code to set it up, but id be happy to set one up for anyone, just pay for the parts.

Well that's really nice. What exactly is it you've built, if you don't mind me asking? Curious to know what it takes.
Title: Track ir
Post by: Arcon on September 24, 2014, 09:20:54 PM
its basically a joystick on your headset it has the 3 axis, not as complex as trackir but cost me in total about £15-£20, i'll get a few pictures taken.

you get pitch, roll and yaw, which for the price I'm happy with, when I don't have my girlfriend screaming down my neck for new bathrooms/kitchens/boilers i'll probably pick a trackIR up but untill then this does the job nicely, have only tested with arma and ED, havn't tried SC yet but i'll give it a shot when i get a longer cable  for it.

Oh yeah it has to be connected to a mini usb cable but if you get long enough you can just cable tie it to the headset cable which is what i'm planning on doing.
Title: Track ir
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 24, 2014, 10:36:58 PM
Looks like a fun project - got me hunting as I wanted to do something with a little arduino board. I found a blog that sounds like your headset...
http://reprapdad.wordpress.com/diy-head-tracker-part-1/
:cool:
Title: Track ir
Post by: Galatoni on September 24, 2014, 11:00:34 PM
Very nice!
Title: Track ir
Post by: Arcon on September 24, 2014, 11:36:26 PM
Quote from: suicidal_monkey;388236Looks like a fun project - got me hunting as I wanted to do something with a little arduino board. I found a blog that sounds like your headset...
http://reprapdad.wordpress.com/diy-head-tracker-part-1/
:cool:

that is exactly what i did, EDtracker.org.uk they have all the info there!
Title: Track ir
Post by: Seany on September 27, 2014, 04:39:42 PM
I think Lameduck has his Track ir now.

I'm attaching my LFS, Assetto Corsa, Rise of Flight and DCSBlackShark profiles here, if you want to try them.  You might find my LFS one works for you.  The Blackshark one is the one I use for very high precision work (where you need to look accurately look at specific parts of the cockpit).  This one may be good for Elite?  

Some profiles you can use for multiple games..but some games will always need there own profile. Just experimentation will tell you.  For example the Assetto profile wont work well with LFS (it will feel too sensitive) and the LFS profile wont work well with Assetto (it will feel too sluggish).
Title: Track ir
Post by: Sneakytiger on September 27, 2014, 04:42:53 PM
got mine today.
Title: Track ir
Post by: Lameduck on September 27, 2014, 06:12:14 PM
Quote from: Seany;388359I think Lameduck has his Track ir now
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Thanks for the profiles Sean, yes, mine did arrive yesterday. Very pleased with the product, but there's very little support on profile setup etc, in fact I got most knowledge from a video by one of your countrymen Gerry Abbott, on Youtube ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TASEXUd4Oto ).The on-line help file is out of date, so fairly useless. Tried it with Live for Speed (good) and Elite (excellent). FSX required a change in their profile, as there was very little pitch and I could only see the tops of the flight panels and had to increase the range for left and right view. After changes it was a great experience and flying was much smoother than normal, not having to change views, change settings on the 3D panels etc.
Star Citizen was a complete disaster, so bad that I gave up.  It takes so long to exit the program, change the profile,reload SC ad infinitum