I wondered if anyone else has come across a similar problem and if so whats the easy get around :-
I've bought (yes thats right bought) a couple of current music cds which play ok on any usual HiFi stuff but when I go to play on my Pc the cd installs its own player
software, trying to play via windows media or creative player I either end up with a load of hassle attempting to get it to play or it just wont play.
I also had probs when trying to copy from Nero it didn't seem to recognize the music files.
The music files them selves are embedded in a sub folder.
As a regular purchaser of CDs its only v.recently I've come across this.
Anyone ??
yea ive had that with a cd i brought, if i remember corectly the only way i could find to get round it was to install its own player, let it do its thing, exit out of it & go from there.
Being employed in the Music industry, I am very aware of these new formats, I have to test their compatibility over my network.
The software you get with them is the only supported way of playing and extracting the music on your pc, so you can make an mp3 out of your CD tracks but it has to be digitally signed by Windows Media or the Creative software to say its yours. An unsigned mp3 isn't possible out of the box. Perhaps it is with 3rd prty software, I've not checked.
The only reason to make an unsigned mp3 is to play it on an mp3 player that doesn't support digital signatures (or of course illegally share it) so you don't get that option very easily and if the mp3 won't play on your personal mp3 player, the music industry says tough. I suppose it's to do with the fact that 25% of music sales have been lost to piracy over the last few years.
I know that creative products will allow you to play, upload and use digitally signed mp3s, my Nomad works great with albums i haev downloaded from itunes or tiscalli.
Very noble of you to buy CDs though, :) . I may be a finally get a pay rise or Xmas bonus before the decade is out.
I've heard that simply taking a black marker and drawing round the edge of the data side stops the PC reading theautorun instally player thing and then you can play as per usual?
Dunno how true that is tho...
QuoteOriginally posted by A Twig@Jan 5 2004, 12:33 PM
I've heard that simply taking a black marker and drawing round the edge of the data side stops the PC reading theautorun instally player thing and then you can play as per usual?
Dunno how true that is tho...
I believe the previous attempt at anti piracy was thwarted by a black pen. The type you have on your disc probably isn't, but you could try it, it won't ruin the if you have a steady hand.
Or just use a washable marker so u can wipe it off again if u screw up! :D
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QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jan 5 2004, 03:40 PM
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BlueBall here is advocating me doing something illegal breaking the rules of the Forum - which I of coarse couldn't contemplate being such an upstanding member.
I demand he be stripped of his Rank and flogged to within an inch of his life and then just stripped. :rolleyes:
ok so all I need is a handy brick to leave on the shift key :ph34r:
QuoteFor his part, Halderman says the workaround is so simple that it's hard to fix. Nor is he worried about falling afoul of laws that make it illegal to describe how to get around copy-protection measures.
"I hardly think that telling people to push Shift constitutes trafficking in a (copy-protection technology) circumvention device," Halderman said. "I'm not very worried."
Thats from the article and should get BB off the hook (possibly).
I found a fairly easy way of sortig this - if it's the cd's that have the little sticker on the front saying copy protection, the same ones that try to install their own softeware (note I know this not as I copy to distribute illegally but to make copies for my car CD player):
When you stick the cd in don't allow it to install it's software (remove it from your system if u already have)
open media player and go to options
in privacy tab uncheck boxes to uniquely identify player and automatically acquire licenses
Dont allow media player to retrieve cd info from net (another check box)
Then go to copy music and copy the cd tracks (they should all read unknown) to your "My Music" folder
Then use your fave burning package to create the cd from the files you have burned
Works for me everytime on new albums with that software
QuoteOriginally posted by Gh0st Face Killah@Jan 5 2004, 06:29 PM
QuoteFor his part, Halderman says the workaround is so simple that it's hard to fix. Nor is he worried about falling afoul of laws that make it illegal to describe how to get around copy-protection measures.
"I hardly think that telling people to push Shift constitutes trafficking in a (copy-protection technology) circumvention device," Halderman said. "I'm not very worried."
Thats from the article and should get BB off the hook (possibly). [/b]
It'll take more than that to keep me off the hook. it's my favourite server :D
Thanks BTW GFK :)
QuoteOriginally posted by Gh0st Face Killah@Jan 5 2004, 06:29 PM
QuoteFor his part, Halderman says the workaround is so simple that it's hard to fix. Nor is he worried about falling afoul of laws that make it illegal to describe how to get around copy-protection measures.
"I hardly think that telling people to push Shift constitutes trafficking in a (copy-protection technology) circumvention device," Halderman said. "I'm not very worried."
Thats from the article and should get BB off the hook (possibly). [/b]
Ok so I exaggerated, misconstrued, told blatant lies and was generally underhand, sly & backstabbing. (and these are my good points).
BB should be pleased I went to those lengths just to get him kicked I hope he appreciates it:D
More fuel to the fire
BBC Waffle (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3372859.stm)
QuoteOriginally posted by smilodon@Jan 8 2004, 12:55 AM
More fuel to the fire
BBC Waffle (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3372859.stm)
The point about the anti pirate software also preventing the actual playing on some machines is interesting, one of my cd's will only play on one of my pc's - it won't even install the onboard player on the other machine.
Hurrah! Maybe an end to the the start of non-piracy! :D
Oh and maybe the record companies will realise that a 500% + profit margin isn't really necessary on every CD.
i got the new chillis cd and its an anti copy one. dammit!
i want to copy it so that it doesnt get scratched to sh!t when i have it in my car.
QuoteOriginally posted by A Twig@Jan 8 2004, 07:25 PM
Hurrah! Maybe an end to the the start of non-piracy! :D
Oh and maybe the record companies will realise that a 500% + profit margin isn't really necessary on every CD.
Errr, feller, I don't know when the last time you saw the breakdown of a typical CD, but it aint my company that gets the lions share. Record companies have to pay for the music to be made, for tha artists to be inspired to write the music, pay the artisits vast sums to sign them and per album (if they are a big artisit), for the artists graphics people to design the covers, for the CDs to be manufactured (ok not the most expensive thing these days, but most companies no longer press their own), for the gigs, promotion, advertising, radio airtime, tv airtime, and most most most of all, fo rth elikes of Woolworths, HMV, Virgin etc. Amazon, Play, CD WOW etc. just to stock the CDs. Every advert you see for the lates CD available at Woolworths branches, at HMV shops etc. Is it HMV paying for that, no its the record company. We make pennies per disk, and the price of new CDs is representative of expected sales figures and the amouth that has gone into making the CD. We price Robbie Williams at Tesco prices coz we know it will sell well Duh, we could price that sort of crap at £14.99 per CD and it would still sell.
Every time someone copies a disc, passes on mp3s for free or any sort of piracy, prices rise to make up for the losses.
The only way to stop this sort of thing is to make new ways for distributing the music legally, iTunes etc... Then you'll all realise that £10.99 for a CD with art work, sleeve notes and physical presence is far better than 99p per 128Kbps mp3 from iTunes.
Oh and I've yet to receive a bonus or pay rise. I work for EMI Music by the way.
We make money out of publishing, not music. CD sales are important but the pennies made per CD is minimal, its when our writers sell the score to a hit song to another company we make the cash. We don't own Dido, but wrote 3/4 of her album, multi-platinum in the USA, made us a fortune in publishing cash.
And once the profits come in, they still ahve to pay a load of people to run the company.
So please buy CDs from time to time, ok I have no objection to people p2ping to try it out, but if you like it buy it. :coolio:
The only perk is the life size picture of Kylie's great ass in my office :D
QuoteOriginally posted by albert@Jan 8 2004, 08:21 PM
The only perk is the life size picture of Kylie's great ass in my office :D
That'll be a small, but beautifully formed, picture then :dribble:
More BBC waffle (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3380307.stm)
;) ;) ;)
I know, I know I just can't leave well enough alone. Seems we consumers aren't allowed to decide where we get our music and movies from any more. While large corportaions can globalise to their hearts content and source all the resources and services they like from any country they choose, their customers have to buy from where they are told and for a price they are to told to pay. Woe betide the consumer who tries to save a few quid.
Swine !
............ except Albert who's a thoroughly decent bloke. :)
QuoteOriginally posted by albert@Jan 8 2004, 08:21 PM
The only perk is the life size picture of Kylie's great ass in my office :D
Can I get a copy of that piccie please, seeing as the real thing is tied up with some frenchman!!
Ok, maybe I was a little out then. A good friend of mine owns a CD distributor company, i.e. buys from record cimpanies and sells to shops. According to him, the cost of each individual CD when bought wholesale is between £2.15 and £2.75. This includes royalties to artists, and CD production costs. Allowing for a reasonable profit margin and the price rise effect of each company wanting their own profit, I would expect a CD cost of about £8 or £9 pound tops. How this price gets to the£15.99 you see in my local HMV is beyond me.
QuoteThen you'll all realise that £10.99 for a CD with art work, sleeve notes and physical presence is far better than 99p per 128Kbps mp3 from iTunes.
If I can find a shop that sells CDs at that price I will quite happily buy them.