Hi,
I discovered FSEconomy yesterday. It is a free addon/web thing, that lets people take missions and "play" using flight simulators. Both MSFS, Prepar3d and X-plane is supported. People can make groups and " work" for the same " company". We could make Dead Men Air or something like that. It looks like you can use any kind of plane. You "rent" the plane at first.
I havent tried it yet. My account needs to be set up by a person, but I'm sure someone else have. what do you thnk.
I feel there could be a "market" around the North sea basin, moving people and parts for the oil industry. :D
hmmmmmm interesting :g:
Copy from the FSE Forums
Unfortunately we are short staffed right now and we have been hit really hard with new account requests. We are taking steps to add additional staff members but it will take time for them to get up to speed. The existing staff is working as hard as they can to catch up but new requests keep flowing in at a higher rate than normal and setting up an account is a time consuming process. Please be patient and they will get to you as soon as then can.
I got my account yesterday. Middle of the night actually. It looks great, it seems easy to get jobs. in the Ã...lesund area. it is not always as easy to find a plane to rent for the job. I found a french registered Cessna in Molde (ENML), the Job was to fly three passengers to Kristiansund. (ENKB) so I had to rent the plane in Molde, fly it to Ã...lesund to pick up the passengers. It was great.
You find the jobs and planes on the game website. there is a client installed that makes sure your plane can take the liad and fuel. when you park up the money for the job gets transfered to your account.
I havnt checked in to groups and stuff yet.
More information
http://sites.google.com/site/fseoperationsguide
http://www.fseconomy.net/tos
Requested an account today, might be quite fun sometimes.
We'll wait to hear more from you Sparko about the team/group side of things! :thumbsup:
I've registered just waiting for my account to be set up.
Would be great if we could operate and make money together, I'm liking what I've read so far, good find Vobler :thumb:
I have found the archives of a monthly magazine called FSE Reporter.
A lot of information. PDF's years back.
https://sites.google.com/site/fsereporter/
just waiting on approval as well
Quote from: sulky_uk;394629just waiting on approval as well
Good man :thumb:
Once my account has been set up I will get a group sorted for us
Quote from: Sparko;394632Once my account has been set up I will get a group sorted for us
What will it be called?
Dead Men Flying?
I'd stick to 'Dead Men Walking'. I know we're flying and not walking, but we're also advertising our community.
Here is the info from the "Group page", if anyone want to start thinking strategies.
Groups
In FS Economy people can work together by forming groups. A group has its own bank account and can own aircraft and assignments. Members of a group may be assigned staff privileges, which allow them to perform administrative tasks for the group.
Groups have three membership levels:
1. Member: Members can fly assignments for the flight group.
2. Staff: Like Member, but can create and change assignments for the group and manage the bank account of the group.
3. Owner: Like Staff, but can also change membership levels of other members and pay group funds to other members.
If a member of a group has at least one assignment aboard that is owned by the flight group, special rules will apply to the flight:
• All operational costs of the flight will be paid by the group
• The main income of the flight is paid to the group
• A pilot fee may be paid to the pilot
Important: The key to flying a ‘ group assignment’ is to have at least one assignment aboard that is owned by the group.
Assignments that are found throughout the world may be put under the ownership of the group by staff members. Staff members can also create 'simple' assignments that tell a pilot to fly from one place to the other, but these assignments won't pay the group any money. These assignments can be used to allow pilots to ferry an aircraft to a location on the account of the group.
----------- The role of a pilot ----------
It's the task of the pilot to fly assignments on behalf of the group. After the pilot logs on to the website, he should use the "groups" page to check the assignments for his flight groups. After selecting one or more assignments he will go the airport screen and find a suitable aircraft to fly the assignments. If the pilot finds no assignments, then he or she can choose any assignment on the airport page.
----------- The role of staff ------------
The staff of a flight group should check the area of operations of the group for interesting assignments. These assignments should then be added to the group. Staff should be careful of the balance between "hoarding" assignments and choosing assignments that will be flown. If selected assignments are not flown, then that deprives other players of the chance to fly them.
Staff should also check the aircraft that are owned by the group for any pending maintenance or for aircraft in need of repairs and manage the bank account by depositing money in the bank.
To perform their tasks, staff members will find extra links on many pages throughout the FS Economy website. For example, on the market page, next to the regular "buy" button, there will be a "buy for [group]" button, which can be used to buy aircraft for the group. If you are buying for a group, the purchase cost is deducted from the group's bank account. (Be sure to transfer enough money from the group's bank balance to the group's cash balance.)
-------------- Strategies ----------------
By working together, a group can earn more money than a single pilot. One strategy is to use a "hub" airport and let pilots in smaller planes bring assignments from around the area to this hub airport and unload them. The assignments can then be loaded aboard a larger plane and transferred over longer distances, where they can be distributed to their destination with smaller planes.
---------------Pilot Fees---------------
Pilots are paid a percentage of the assignment fee and is set by the group owner. That percentage will always be paid to the pilot. The remaining percentage is held by the group to pay for aircraft rental, ground crew fees, maintenance, etc.
Example. Pilot fee is set to 85%. For a $10,000 assignment, the pilot will receive $8,500 and the group will receive $1,500. From this $1,500 the group must pay ground crew fees ($1,000), and aircraft rental. If the aircraft is owned by the group, then the group's profit will only be $500 (rental fee paid to the owner, which is the group: net effect is zero). If the group has to pay for aircraft rental, it is likely that $500 will not be enough to cover rental fees and the gorup will lose money on the flight.
Quote from: TeaLeaf;394635I'd stick to 'Dead Men Walking'. I know we're flying and not walking, but we're also advertising our community.
Agreed :)
Will have to come up with a % of what money goes to the group and what money goes to the pilot as a fee too, getting rather excited about this I just hope it's as good as it sounds
Sounds like Elite in FSX, lots of Hauling and mission grinding to earn money! Except for a corporation rather the individual, interesting concept, I'd have a go at this for sure.
My account has been activated and I have created a 'Dead Men Walking' group, I presume you search for this group and request to join. Let me know when you have and ill log on and accept :)
In the Groups Menu, Under All Groups it Shows up, but there is no Join Button. The link to our home page was working though.
I am verbli in FSEconomy if you want to join me.
edit: add me I mean
It looks like all "our" accounts are created now!
go go
Aha I found the invite button :)
Ok verbli has been sent an invite,
Let me know your usernames once you have them guys and I will get invites sent
Quote from: Sparko;394658Ok verbli has been sent an invite,
accepted!
Found Sulky and TeaLeaf so invites sent
Quote from: Sparko;394661Found Sulky and TeaLeaf so invites sent
please invite our new friend jarlev too. he should be in there now.
Quote from: vobler;394662please invite our new friend jarlev too. he should be in there now.
Done :thumb:
All good cheers
Registered as Lameduck today. An invitation would be appreciated. :)
Quote from: Lameduck;394693Registered as Lameduck today. An invitation would be appreciated. :)
invite sent :)
Assignments have now been added to the group assignments page for dMw and after the first day we have just under $11,000 in the kitty :)
I did my (the?) first flight for Dead Men Walking today. Just a short one though.
It is shaping up nicely.... whohooo!
I'll try to hook up with something later today, but I need some idea of how to get the assignments and rent the planes etc as when I start the fse it is totally empty (even after the account is input). There's probably a rather large FAQ somewhere that I should have read! :blush:
i had the same issues, Sparko sorted it out in about 2 mins, if i can i talk you through it when im next on ts or im sure sparko or vob will do as well
Quote from: TeaLeaf;394775I'll try to hook up with something later today, but I need some idea of how to get the assignments and rent the planes etc as when I start the fse it is totally empty (even after the account is input). There's probably a rather large FAQ somewhere that I should have read! :blush:
If you go to the link that was sent to you when your account was set up, on the right hand side of the homepage there is a list of shortcuts. Click on the 'install the simconnect client' . Once installed open the client via the windows start menu ( it's in a folder named //www.fseconomy.net). Once this is open click file then config, enter your username and password, then click OK. Now make sure in the very bottom left of the client it says connected.
To find an assignment and an aircraft, click on Airports at the top. Search for an airport you wish to fly from either by typing the airport code into the ICAO box or search by city. This will then list the available assignments from that airport. If you scroll down the page below the assignments you will see a list of aircraft at that airport. Some will be available to rent, it will state 'rent dry or rent wet' next to that aircraft. Renting an aircraft dry means you have to pay for any fuel you use, renting it wet means fuel is all inclusive of the rental price.
Once you have decided what assignments you want to do, select them by adding a tick on the left hand side of each one (be aware that the more you select for one flight increases your overall weight of your aircraft).
Then scroll to the bottom of the assignments and click on add selection to my flight.
Now select your aircraft you want to rent (Baring in mind that you must have that aircraft in your fsx library) by clicking on rent dry or rent wet depending on how you want to rent the aircraft.
Now click on 'my flight' at the top of the page, this will the list you flight summary. Just under your assignments summary you will see some greyish text that gives you your total weight for the flight. Make a note of this. Also below that is the aircraft details of which you have rented. Make a note of how much fuel is in the tank by percentage.
Now launch fsx, go to free flight and configure your flight as needed and 'spawn' at you starting airport. Within fsx go to aircraft from the menu at the top and select fuel and payload. Configure this to match the weight and fuel load shown in the assignments summary from fseconomy.
Once you have this sorted, do your normal pre flight checks in fsx. Then go to addons at the top of fsx and select fseconomy and then start flight.
Fly your assignment route and land at your destination. Park up and put your parking breaks on (ctrl and period key) you should then see a dialog box open saying 'sending results to FSE' ( or something along those lines'
Go back to fseconomy client and click on balance, you should now have earned some cash ( presuming that the assignments you took on paid more than the cost of you renting the aircraft).
That's the general gist, I would however recommend reading the manual here (https://sites.google.com/site/fseoperationsguide/) for more detailed and lengthy instruction
Hi, I'm a new member who has recently started using FS economy and was wondering if I could fly in your group? I'm not sure if there is any signup process. If there is please let me know :)
My FSE name id Tuna.
I'm currently flying routes using either a Pilatus PC12 or a Piper PA32 Saratoga, both of which I have found quite efficient.
Anyway, here's hoping.
Welcome to dMw Tuna, glad to have you onboard. I think Vobler or Sparko can hook you up with an invite (I can't as my FSX is temporarily uninstalled). Meet with them on TS too if you want to chat whilst flying - details are here (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?3363-Server-Password).
See you online!
Quote from: Tuna;395440Hi, I'm a new member who has recently started using FS economy and was wondering if I could fly in your group? I'm not sure if there is any signup process. If there is please let me know :)
My FSE name id Tuna.
I'm currently flying routes using either a Pilatus PC12 or a Piper PA32 Saratoga, both of which I have found quite efficient.
Anyway, here's hoping.
Hi Tuna,
Welcome to the community, ive sent you an invite on FSE so you can be part of the group. Hope to see you around, jump on TeamSpeak for a chat if you need anything :thumb: