I can't seem to find the details right now. But apparently the Cutlass is getting a huge facelift. Anyone who has one won't be disappointed, however they are making them bigger.
A few concerns have already been razed though. Firstly, its not really a two seater dog-fighter anymore. Judging by the pictures (i'll try and get them), its more like a smaller version of the constellation. Secondly, the price will likely be reflected in this new change, people that have already got them are getting a bargain!
This raises a few more concerns for me though. Will this kind of effort be brought to bare on the Constellation (all models - as well as the base!), and the Freelancer? Its not the cost i'm thinking of here.
I've been tempted to upgrade my 325i to a Cutlass Black to shove a bit more support Chris Roberts way. I planned on doing it when the Cutlass is flyable but I might have to bring my plan forward if it's going to get a price hike, unless that increase is minimal.
I'm very happy with the one sat in my hangar, looking forward to seeing it evolve!
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Seems rather strange that they would change the size, given it's a rather nice balanced idea already.
Yeah, they're re-working a lot of the original wave 1 ships, including the Constellation lineup. They're all getting the modular treatment apparently.
It can only be a good thing to be honest. I just hope they're even handed with it is all. Larger ships are more realistic, however, if people bought a dog fighter...
Speaking of which if you have one you are able to fly it this week. There is also a sale on the Blue var
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14538-Cutlass-Test-Drive-And-Blue-Sale
Quote from: Galatoni;395427I can't seem to find the details right now. But apparently the Cutlass is getting a huge facelift. Anyone who has one won't be disappointed, however they are making them bigger.
A few concerns have already been razed though. Firstly, its not really a two seater dog-fighter anymore. Judging by the pictures (i'll try and get them), its more like a smaller version of the constellation. Secondly, the price will likely be reflected in this new change, people that have already got them are getting a bargain!
This raises a few more concerns for me though. Will this kind of effort be brought to bare on the Constellation (all models - as well as the base!), and the Freelancer? Its not the cost i'm thinking of here.
Who said they were getting bigger? I know that there are some people who were saying this due to the pictures of a couple of the new modular interiors that Sandi released on her Facebook page, but it's already been confirmed that those pictures were using a camera with a wide viewing angle which distorted the apparent size.
Prices were always intended to go up, and they may well use the modularity feature as an excuse to up the price, but I'll wait and see.
Regarding the classification, I don't see how it has changed tbh. I've never thought of it as a two seater fighter in any case...more of a three seater (pilot, nav/weapons and a turret gunner).
i just think that following the new changes there will simply be more things that you will be able to do with the Cutlass.
I know it was shot in a wide angle. As for the fighter business you'd only need to look at the advert they posted for the cutlass range. I'm not bothered about it changing. I'm just sure there are going to be a lot of complaints regarding a perceived change in role.
Quote from: Galatoni;395845I know it was shot in a wide angle. As for the fighter business you'd only need to look at the advert they posted for the cutlass range. I'm not bothered about it changing. I'm just sure there are going to be a lot of complaints regarding a perceived change in role.
Sorry, but I've gone over the advert again and still don't see what the issue is. I still don't see any change in role, perceived or not.
What am I missing?
Speed and agility?
Seriously though. Haters gonna hate and all that. People will complain about anything. There are other chassis that have been on the line for being 'redesigned' and update for a lot longer than this. But from testing the water and speaking to a few people - the run down is this:
- Its no longer a dogfighter: It wasn't meant to be a dog-fighter to begin with, however, the blue was meant to be a defence boat in line with a role (if thats the right word) similar to the Avenger.
- Its going to get bigger: As already stated, the angle used to pitch the redesign was wide, but its likely that it will have to increase in size. This has happened to many of the ships so far.
I'll be honest. I don't care what they do with it. The more variety of ships the better in my opinion. Plus we've all signed up to an unfinished product and i'm fine with that. I have one thing to say though.... please, PLEASE take out the god damn hot tub :D
Ah, I see, yeah you're right people do seem to get their knickers in a twist over what ends up being nothing.
i got me a Black with a Blue upgrade, so I'm still pondering whether or not to apply it :)
Noone is taking it away from you. Hang on to it ;)
If they change the size/role of a ship I bought I am going to be cross.
While I'm now quite keen to get hold of one. I didn't go for it originally as it seemed too small and not vastly different from the Hornet or my 325i. If it's going to pitch in as a half way house between the single seater fighters and the Freelancer I'd be happy. However I do think it's not fair on people like Tut who bought X and might end up with Y. Maybe a brand new ship would be better?
Quote from: Obsydian;395878i got me a Black with a Blue upgrade, so I'm still pondering whether or not to apply it :)
Ditto. It's same with all of the upgrades I have, they're sat in hangar and not applied yet. I figured there was no rush and you never know when a spec change will make one or other version more or less attractive!
I do not possess that level of patience :)
Quote from: OldBloke;395898I do not possess that level of patience :)
I sent you this via the RSI website. Enjoy. :narnar:
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Quote from: TeaLeaf;395900I sent you this via the RSI website. Enjoy. :narnar:
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Brilliant :roflmao:
That Baton.. in addition to the custom restraint system.. so wrong on many counts..
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I chassis upgraded my 325i to a Cutlass Black and there does appear to be a change with the AC 1.03 update. However it's purely cosmetic rather than structural. I can't comment on the Blue and Red but the Black now has a lot of new textures and some reshaped panels, thrusters etc. It looks far more beaten up, scratched etc but not specifically damaged. Well worn I would say. This fits in nicely with the Asteroid/Industrial hanger. There are new buttons and everything seems to be working. There's a couple of clipping issues but that's all. However the Cutlass looks exactly the same size and dimensions. So unless they are planning further big changes then I think Tut should be happy :)
One nice consequence of the upgrade is that I now get all the hanger types as standard even though I only have the one medium ship.
I'm still toying with the idea of cashing some ships in for a red. The more I think about it the more I dislike dogfighting. I think I prefer the larger ships myself.
My outrage is temporarily suspended.
I believe there is a bit if a rethink still in planning. At the moment the Cutlass isn't a match for a Hornet or a 300i. The 'rumour' is that the developers at Foundry 42 are working on the ship as it plays a big role in the single player game. So a combination of it not being up to the job in Arena Commander and it needing a rework for the Squadron 42 means you're not out of the water yet. I'd certainly like to see it get some beefed up armour and the guns put out some more damage. I'm not sure that it needs much of a size/shape change and don't think it will get one as it's just been reskinned as is.
It's finally here! Meet the new Drake Cutlass Black:
[video=youtube;fUAlEOhkdok]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUAlEOhkdok[/video]
Nope. Still fugly :devil:
It's not great. I can't see the justification for time here. It wasn't that bad to begin with.
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Quote from: Galatoni;426020It's not great. I can't see the justification for time here. It wasn't that bad to begin with.
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With regards to the time, they basically rebuilt/redesigned the whole ship from the ground up. It's now bigger, has side loading doors, lost the floor docking collar (which I am pretty annoyed about tbh), redesigned cockpit and seating arrangements so now both pilots can get in or out without affecting the other. I prefer the look of the new model, but would like to see how it feels.
Quote from: Obsydian;426026With regards to the time, they basically rebuilt/redesigned the whole ship from the ground up. It's now bigger, has side loading doors, lost the floor docking collar (which I am pretty annoyed about tbh), redesigned cockpit and seating arrangements so now both pilots can get in or out without affecting the other. I prefer the look of the new model, but would like to see how it feels.
Let me make one thing clear. I LOVE their ship models. I don't think they've produced a single one yet that I don't at least like. But there is more to it than that.
I would sooner have a base design of something out there than spend all this additional time and energy redesigning stuff. Especially since there are so many ships still sat on the drawing board. Yet we still see concept sale after concept sale with the same reasoning. "It funds development".
It isn't possible for a game to be completed without capital, I understand that. But from a software developer point of view, while their developing alright, I would expect them to be more agile. That is, I expect to see progress, in the hands of the client (us) at the end of each cycle.
It's not uncommon for features to take up one or more cycles without seeing someone improvement to the main code base, it might not be stable enough, and that's fine. But to go this long without putting something into the clients hands.... It starts to seem like they're struggling. So when I see a ship redesign, I think, "what's that covering up?"
I should state that I'm still waiting for my phoenix. ;)
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Yeah, I hear you. The delay has been excruciating, especially since Chris said at last year's GamesCom that we would have 3.0 by the end of 2017. but we're almost there!
One of the biggest reasons for not being more agile in the move from 2.6.3 to 3.0 is the sheer size of the task to switch from the non-persistent networking code, utilising the old item Pott system and user interaction to the new networking code, item system 2.0 and the inner thought system and subsumption driving the NPCs and mission system. From what I've read, nothing lent itself to an agile delivery - it's a Big Bang all or nothing approach, hence the need to wait until they have all of the game systems in sync and talking to each other.
However, once we have 3.0, which includes the new delta patcher by the way, they will be much better placed to make more frequent code and content drops on an almost weekly basis. We should then see many of these new ships appearing in the game once they are ready, instead of having to hold them back due to the systems they rely on not being out yet (aurora, Connie and cutlass reworks, to name just three).
The nearness of it all is almost palpable!..
Quote from: Obsydian;426026lost the floor docking collar (which I am pretty annoyed about tbh)
Yeah, that was one of the reasons I bought it in the first place. It looks slightly less agile though than the original, a bit less piratey if that makes sense (even though it is not for pirate use), although my Cutlass is sitting on my account next to an as yet unapplied Blue CCU, so I guess it doesn't matter.