Both these new models were launched by Google yesterday and are available for pre-order for shipping in 4-5 weeks. They will launch with Android 6.0 Marshmallow and are a decent upgrade on the older versions.
https://store.google.com/category/phones
Nexus 5X: £339 (16GB) or £379 (32GB)
Nexus 6P: £449 (32GB), £499 (64GB), £579 (128GB)
I think the 5X prices and the 32GB version of the 6P are pretty good value for the spec they deliver. The 6P looks real interesting - not as large as a 6" phablet, so easier to hold, but still rocking a 5.7" WQHD (2560 x 1440) AMOLED display (518 ppi). I reckon that will look stunning.
Both models come with a free 90 day Google Music subscription. I sense that my 2013 Nexus 5 is going to get retired!
Quote from: Nexus 5XOperating System
Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Display
5.2 inches
FHD (1920 x 1080) LCD at 423 ppi
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3
Fingerprint and smudge-resistant oleophobic coating
Rear Camera
12.3 MP¹
1.55 µm pixels
f/2.0 aperture
IR laser-assisted autofocus
4K (30 fps) video capture
Broad-spectrum CRI-90 dual flash
Front Camera
5 MP
1.4 µm pixels
f/2.0 aperture
Processors
Qualcomm® Snapdragonâ,,¢ 808 processor, 1.8 GHz hexa-core 64-bit
Adreno 418 GPU
Memory & Storage²
RAM: 2 GB LPDDR3
Internal storage: 16 GB or 32 GB
Dimensions³
147.0 x 72.6 x 7.9 mm
Weight
136 g
Color
Carbon
Quartz
Ice
Media
Single front-facing speaker
3 microphones (1 front, 1 top, 1 bottom)
Batteryâ´
2,700 mAh Battery
Fast charging: up to 3.8 hours of use from only 10 minutes of charging
Wireless & Location
LTE cat. 6
Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac 2x2 MIMO, dual-band (2.4 GHz, 5.0 GHz)
Bluetooth 4.2
NFC
GPS / GLONASS
Digital compass
Wi-Fi use requires 802.11a/b/g/n/ac access point (router). Syncing services, such as backup, require a Google Account.
Network
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
CDMA: not supported
LTE (FDD): B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/17/18/19/20/26/28
LTE (TDD): B38/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B1-B5, B1-B7, B1-B8, B1-B18, B1-B19, B1-B26, B3-B3, B3-B5, B3-B7, B3-B8, B3-B19, B3-B20, B3-B28, B5-B7, B7-B7, B7-B20, B7-B28, B40-B40, B41-B41.
Phone is carrier-unlocked with wide-range band support for service providers worldwide. Check with your service provider for more information.
Sensors
Fingerprint sensor
Accelerometer
Gyroscope
Barometer
Proximity sensor
Ambient light sensor
Hall sensor
Android Sensor Hub
Ports
Single USB Type-C
3.5 mm audio jack
Single Nano SIM slot
Material
Premium injection molded polycarbonate housing
¹Final resolution of images may be less than 12.3 MP.
²Storage specifications refer to capacity before formatting. Actual formatted capacity will be less.
³Size and weight may vary by manufacturing process.
â´Actual battery performance will vary and depends on many factors including signal strength, network configuration, age of battery, operating temperature, features selected, device settings, and voice, data, and other application usage patterns.
Quote from: Nexus 6POperating System
Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Display
5.7 inches
WQHD (2560 x 1440) AMOLED display at 518 ppi
16:9 aspect ratio
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 4
Fingerprint and smudge-resistant oleophobic coating
Rear Camera
12.3 MP¹
1.55 µm pixels
f/2.0 aperture
IR Laser assisted autofocus
4K (30 fps) video capture
Broad-spectrum CRI-90 dual flash
Front Camera
8MP camera
1.4 µm pixels
f/2.4 aperture
HD video capture (30 fps)
Processors
Qualcomm® Snapdragonâ,,¢ 810 v2.1, 2.0 GHz Octa-core 64-bit
Adreno 430 GPU
Memory & Storage²
RAM: 3 GB LPDDR4
Internal storage: 32 GB, 64 GB, or 128 GB
Dimensions³
159.3 X 77.8 X 7.3 mm
Weight
178 g
Color
Aluminium
Graphite
Frost
Media
Dual front-facing stereo speakers
3 microphones (2 front, 1 rear) with noise cancellation
Batteryâ´
3,450 mAh battery
Fast charging: up to 7 hours of use from only 10 minutes of charging
Wireless & Location
LTE cat. 6
Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac 2x2 MIMO, dual-band (2.4 GHz, 5.0 GHz)
Bluetooth 4.2
NFC
GPS, GLONASS
Digital compass
Wi-Fi use requires 802.11a/b/g/n/ac access point (router). Syncing services, such as backup, require a Google Account.
Network
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
TD-SCDMA: 34/39
CDMA: BC0/1
LTE (FDD): B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/17/19/20/28
LTE (TDD): B38/B39/40/41
CA DL: B1-B5, B1-B8, B1-B19, B3-B3, B3-B5, B3-B7, B3-B8, B3-B19, B3-B20, B3-B28, B5-B7, B7-B7, B7-B20, B7-B28, B39-B39, B40-B40, B41-B41
Phone is carrier-unlocked with wide range band support for service providers worldwide. Check with your service provider for more information.
Sensors
Fingerprint sensor
Accelerometer
Gyroscope
Barometer
Proximity sensor
Ambient light sensor
Hall sensor
Android Sensor Hub
Ports
Single USB Type-C
Single Nano SIM slot
3.5 mm audio jack
Material
Anodized aluminum
Other
RGB LED notification light
¹Final resolution of images may be less than 12.3 MP.
²Storage specifications refer to capacity before formatting. Actual formatted capacity will be less.
³Size and weight may vary by manufacturing process.
â´Actual battery performance will vary and depends on many factors including signal strength, network configuration, age of battery, operating temperature, features selected, device settings, and voice, data, and other application usage patterns.
I will be ordering the 5X to replace my 5 but not until I see a proper review.
I'm taking a serious long look at the 5X, the 6P is just too big for a phone (for me). The trouble is that the 2013 Nexus 5 is such a blindingly good phone that while it's still supported by Google I'm struggling to find a compelling reason to upgrade.
The cameras look nice but I'm a complete photography snob and so even the best mobile phone camera isn't going to be of much interest. Other than that the Nexus 5X isn't £379 more phone than my current Nexus 5. What I am really taken with is the new Pixel C (http://pixel.google.com/) and keyboard. That seriously could be an upgrade to my Nexus 7 Gen 2. The Chromecast stuff also looks very interesting and my existing Chromecasts might be getting an upgrade for Xmas
The battery improvements alone make it worthwhile (unless you want to risk destroying the phone by doing a manual upgrade, which is possible, but needs balls). The battery spec improves from 2300mAh to 2700mAh with fast charging:
QuoteBatteryâ´
2,700 mAh Battery
Fast charging: up to 3.8 hours of use from only 10 minutes of charging
I've decided I want to try something a little larger this time around. Whilst the old Nexus 6 was too big, they've backed it off a bit to 5.7" with the 6P and made it slimmer than the old Nexus 5, so I've gone for that. I also loved the all metal chassis of the 6P. I did not see the point in getting anything more than the base memory model though, I never filled the 16GB of my current Nexus 5, so 32GB on a 6P should last me a while. I'm looking forward to seeing what 5.7 inches of WQHD (2560 x 1440) AMOLED display at 518 ppi looks like though!
I carry a lot of music around and it's nice to carry a lot of my collection (50 gig) about on my phone so I really need 32gig. I agree though, music aside I can't imagine filling 16 gigs of space with stuff. Also as data costs become much cheaper (I think I have 6 gig a month now) streaming music directly is becoming an option although not on the London Underground. I guess if you travel and like to download movies and TV shows for watching on trains/flights. I worry that there comes a point where a phone starts to approach a tablet in size and function.
If I have a 6" screen then that's almost my Nexus 7. I wonder if there wouldn't be serious overlap? Out and about tethering the tablet to the phone is an additional step but it's still pretty trivial to do. So I'm still inclined to keep a phone small and practical and use a tablet for larger screen real estate.
I'll also wait for the reviews but I'm still drawn to keeping the Nexus 5 and grabbing a Pixel C which might negate my increasing need for a laptop. Lot's of choices and Xmas is not too far away :D
With you Smilo my 5 is rock solid also the price is higher than I expected . Along with the one plus 2 coming out soon as well.
Quote from: smilodon;404489(I think I have 6 gig a month now)
and grabbing a Pixel C
I have a £20pm package from Three which includes unlimited data and a ton of minutes etc which I never manage to use. My mobile data use is climbing (like yours) and is approaching 3GB per month now.
The Pixel C does look exceedingly interesting. Sort of like the Microsoft Surface Pro range.
The Pixel C is an Android tablet with a nice (but very expensive) add-on keyboard. It's not a Surface Pro alternative - IMHO.
Nexus 5X model is cheaper to buy direct from Carphonewarehouse it appears ...
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nexus-5x-16gb-carphone-warehouse-only-299-99-free-delivery-white-stock-now-2291588
Nexus 6P does slow-motion video.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPIZDBQO3y0gBAFBYfHpudHgY2rbVoHv8UFnf2NGteo5hiQl8c62sTxuB6FnNkngg/photo/AF1QipNWmHqdW8AngGiBsfyRSgw_ankArZQ1ZksByKCt?key=Q1VyYTBBQ2FRRnQ5S2xzUDVoN1RyTEZRWUtEYV93
Quote from: OldBloke;404522Nexus 6P does slow-motion video.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPIZDBQO3y0gBAFBYfHpudHgY2rbVoHv8UFnf2NGteo5hiQl8c62sTxuB6FnNkngg/photo/AF1QipNWmHqdW8AngGiBsfyRSgw_ankArZQ1ZksByKCt?key=Q1VyYTBBQ2FRRnQ5S2xzUDVoN1RyTEZRWUtEYV93
That is very cool!
All these new phones look like diminishing returns now, I don't see any killer features worth trading my OnePlus One in for.
I like to have the feeling I get with a Nexus device that I'm well-supported and will always get the latest software drop or patch as soon as it's released by Google. I'm strictly vanilla Android these days. No ROMs to play around with to get rid of bloat, no waiting on news on when my phone might get the manufacturer's approved software drop that Google released 6 months ago etc. etc.
Ditto for me, vanilla all the way. But if I had a one plus one I'd not see the need to upgrade either.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
I've also been looking at these with interest and every other smartphone on the market and coming - but as others have said with the nexus 5 (2013) - I've had very little want or need to upgrade, but will see how these look.
Hmm I really don't think Google understand how to market and sell mobile phones. The basic idea, and one that is followed by most other manufacturers and carriers, is to make a smartphone and then almost immediately abandon it. Offer no upgrades, no security patches and definitely never offer the next Google desert. A combination of owning an increasingly obsolete device, riddled with security flaws and sporting last years sweetie themed version of Android will have customers lining up to grab the new version. As long as Google keep releasing outstanding hardware that comes bloat free and then support it for three or four years they'll never crack the mobile phone market.
Quote from: OldBloke;404480I will be ordering the 5X to replace my 5 but not until I see a proper review.
Bugger that. Too tempting.
Ordered the 32GB NX5 from Carphonewarehouse for 349.99GBP - 30 quid cheaper than Google Store :D
Quote from: OldBloke;404565Bugger that. Too tempting.
Ordered the 32GB NX5 from Carphonewarehouse for 349.99GBP - 30 quid cheaper than Google Store :D
:roflmao:
Technology eh? You got to love it!
Quote from: OldBloke;404565Bugger that. Too tempting.
Ordered the 32GB NX5 from Carphonewarehouse for 349.99GBP - 30 quid cheaper than Google Store :D
You know you really should have gone for the Nexus 6 P don't you.......... :devil:
Nexus 5X being delivered today :yahoo:
Quote from: OldBloke;405146Nexus 5X being delivered today :yahoo:
Result! My 6P is not slated for delivery until 2nd-4th Nov. You lucky, lucky person you!
Quote from: OldBloke;405146Nexus 5X being delivered today :yahoo:
QuoteYour Carphone Warehouse parcel has been delayed
We were expecting to deliver a parcel to you today; however, we have not yet received this parcel from Carphone Warehouse. As soon as we get your parcel, we will send you an email with your new delivery details. Until then, please contact the sender for more information.
Grrrrr :ranting2:
:roflmao:
You have to admit, CW are getting the '£30 savings' back in sheer entertainment value!
Quote from: smilodon;404555Hmm I really don't think Google understand how to market and sell mobile phones. The basic idea, and one that is followed by most other manufacturers and carriers, is to make a smartphone and then almost immediately abandon it. Offer no upgrades, no security patches and definitely never offer the next Google desert. A combination of owning an increasingly obsolete device, riddled with security flaws and sporting last years sweetie themed version of Android will have customers lining up to grab the new version. As long as Google keep releasing outstanding hardware that comes bloat free and then support it for three or four years they'll never crack the mobile phone market.
I think Andriod hold something like 80% of the market. I imagine most of those will have a google account.
Are they trying to conquer the market or are they just using it to dog food android and keep it ahead of the competition?
Nexus 5 here, just update to Android 6 a couple of nights ago. I've not once had the feeling I've needed to get a replacement phone. But I have spent plenty on the Play store and given lots of data to google :)
Engadget reviews are up ...
Nexus 5X (http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/19/nexus-5x-review/)
Summary ...
QuoteFor those who yearned for the days of budget- and pocket-friendly Nexus handsets, the 5X is for you. No, it's not quite as premium as its rivals and it doesn't have the higher-end specs of its bigger 6P brother, but it more than makes up for that with its affordable price. And you do get quite a lot of phone for the money: The display is sharp; the fingerprint sensor works as promised; the performance is smooth; and you get a decent camera too. Even though the OnePlus 2 and the Moto X Pure offer a better deal and slightly better specs, they lack that speedy fingerprint sensor and don't deliver a pure Android experience, which is important to those who want timelier upgrades. With its sub-$400 price and healthy feature set, the 5X is a more-than-worthy successor to the Nexus 5.
Nexus 6P (http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-review/)
Summary ...
QuoteThe Nexus 6P isn't a perfect phone. Its power button is frustratingly touchy. Its design is a little lacking in charm. The camera, while better, isn't a huge leap over last year's. And yet, what Google and Huawei get right, they get very right. Android 6.0 Marshmallow is a thoughtful, valuable update even if it's not as outright dramatic as Lollipop was. The fit and finish of the all-metal body is top-notch. The fingerprint sensor works like a charm and the phone packs plenty of oomph into a package you can actually use comfortably with one hand. There's plenty to like here, even if the phone isn't for everyone (not that it was ever really meant to be). If you're down to see where the bleeding edge of Android takes you, this is the phone for you. If you're just looking for an excellent Android phone, this could be the phone for you too... along with any number of strong alternatives.
From those Engadget pages, their 'Summary' paragraphs:
Quote from: Nexus 5xPROS
Great value for the money
Quick and accurate fingerprint sensor
Android 6.0 is a fantastic upgrade
Compatible with Google's Fi network
CONS
Mediocre battery life
No microSD card slot
SUMMARY
With a lower price and a smaller form factor, the Nexus 5X signifies Google's return to a more affordable phone that's also friendlier to those with tinier hands. Starting at just $379, the 5X offers a lovely display, a speedy new fingerprint sensor and a surprisingly decent camera. It does falter a little with sub-optimal battery life and specs that aren't as good as its rivals, but the 5X is still a solid phone -- especially for its price.
Quote from: Nexus 6PPROS
Snappy performance
Android 6.0 is a worthy update
Solid battery life
Fingerprint sensor is excellent
CONS
Design is a little drab
Overly sensitive power button
Improved camera still outclassed by its rivals
SUMMARY
The bigger of this year's two Nexus handsets seems like a dream on paper, with premium build quality, top-tier specs and access to the latest software updates straight from Google. Most importantly, Google finally has made a big phone that's comfortable to use with one hand. It's great for die-hard Android enthusiasts, but we're all spoiled for choice this year and the Nexus 6P doesn't do much to outshine the competition.
The improved battery life on the 6P is what I am looking forward to as it is the one area my current Nexus 5 has been a little lacking (I have taken to carrying a charge pack around to recharge the battery when needed).
Quote from: TeaLeaf;405268The improved battery life on the 6P is what I am looking forward to as it is the one area my current Nexus 5 has been a little lacking (I have taken to carrying a charge pack around to recharge the battery when needed).
Google have shot themselves in the foot here. My concern with my current Nexus 5 was battery life, so I ordered a Nexus 6P.
Then Marshmallow with the Android M Doze feature arrived on my Nexus 5 and my battery life has doubled or tripled. I've been so pleased with Marshmallow battery impact on my Nexus 5 that this morning I cancelled my order for the Nexus 6P.
If they'd delayed releasing Marshmallow until the beginning of November then I would have gone through with my order and would have been holding a shiny new Nexus 6P in my sweaty palms and eulogising about the brilliant battery life of the 6P instead of how good Android M Doze has been! Thanks Google, you just saved me £449!
It's rapidly moving from buying hardware to a software subscription, isn't it?
My OnePlus is over a year old, which would previously be considered and ripe for upgrading. I can't see any reason to ditch it now, other than for a software update. How long until Google dish out the hardware for free, and charge per month/year for Android?
Tbh, they could charge quite a decent sum on that basis. I've been rolling over to a new phone every 2 years or so at a cost of £300-£450 each time, so my acceptable subscription price is probably nearer £100 pa if they dished out new hardware for free each time.
I dropped my Nexus 5 from a height of about 1m and broke the screen - not cracked but need to replace the LCD.
I have been quoted £120 for the repair which the supplier has refunded to me, so I now have £120 to spend on either replacing the screen of my original phone, or I can add £160 of my money and upgrade to the Nexus 5X.
What do people think, is the 5X worth it?
Isn't there new HTC manufactured Google Phones on there way soon? I've never bought an Nexus phone but my Asus Zenfone 2 started having screen problems and it is out of warranty so I may have to also consider a replacement. It's a shame as the Asus phone has been a pleasure to use for anything I throw at it, rather shocked the screen is on the blink not long after the 12 month mark.
I have one and it is great, bigger but still great mate, I know others from the community like them too.
Quote from: albert;413118Isn't there new HTC manufactured Google Phones on there way soon? I've never bought an Nexus phone but my Asus Zenfone 2 started having screen problems and it is out of warranty so I may have to also consider a replacement. It's a shame as the Asus phone has been a pleasure to use for anything I throw at it, rather shocked the screen is on the blink not long after the 12 month mark.
Aren't you in the EU? If so, you have 2 years warranty by right. Any company selling items to EU citizens is forced to provide the 2 year warranty irrespective of their own company/country policies.
If they don't budge, go to your consumers authority.
I bought it in Hong Kong. Well I had someone buy it for me when visiting there. It's a 1 year Chinese warranty, regional only even though it's an international model.
Quote from: Toxteth;413117... What do people think, is the 5X worth it?
Went from a 5 to a 5X and very pleased with the bigger/better screen, camera and performance.
There have been deals recently on the 5X. You might not need to spend as much as you've quoted.
Did you see Lionheart's phone at the LAN? Seriously nice piece of kit. Review here. (http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/review/android-smartphones/elephone-p9000-review-3636611/)
Quote from: OldBloke;413123There have been deals recently on the 5X. You might not need to spend as much as you've quoted.
I might hang on a little until some deal come up. As Albert Said, the new HTC Nexus phones are going to drop around October time so might be some more deals on in the coming months.
Cheapest unit from a trusted seller I can see is £274.98 from Ebuyer at the moment.
£209.95 from Simply Electronics but not sure about the seller. I also don't want to end up with a unit from Hong Kong that doesn't have a UK warranty.
I only hear good things about the 5X, sadly I've never had one for a longer test. I will say that the addition of the fingerprint sensor (going on my experience with Nexus 6P vs. Nexus 6 here) is a lot more vital than you'd realize at first, and the placement on the back really works. Considering the upsides of the 6P vs. the 6, which is junior by only a year, the 5X vs the two years older 5 will probably be worth it.
You had a Nexus, you know what you're getting.
Something to think about when choosing a phone. My own No. 1 consideration when buying a mobile or tablet isn't price or features or sexy looks, but security.
Assume it's not a phone but a laptop you're buying. You're browsing around the store looking at the Windows 10 devices and the various Apple Mac Books. You spot a really nice looking Windows Laptop made by Acme Electronics that has a good spec and is being offered at a very reasonable price. However on the sales card it says
QuoteThe software on this product is sold as seen. The manufacturer makes no guarantee that it will ever allow any Microsoft Security Updates. The truth is if we do ever update the OS it will be months after the various exploits have been discovered and are being used by hackers. And we may very well never allow any update to this device ever.
It is also very unlikely that we will implement any new features or enhancements introduced by Microsoft. You are effectively buying a device that cannot and will not be updated for security fixes or new features. Should your device subsequently be compromised by a 3rd party using one of these many unpatched exploits.... well too bad.
I'm thinking you probably wouldn't buy it. My Nexus 6P runs the very latest Android software which is patched regularly over the air for security updates and bug fixes straight from Google. In the last few days Android Pay was launched in the UK and I'm running it right now. As soon as Google released it then it was on my phone and working. I could do an OTA update to the new Android N if I signed up for the beta. And they day Google officially launches Android N it will be on my Nexus device.
Mobiles are becoming our go to devices and store all our stuff in ways that PC's and laptops never did. We carry out address book, diary, notes, bank accounts, store cards, location history, shopping habits and a mass of personal information on our phones. In that one small slab of glass, plastic and metal is our whole life. It's no longer actually a mobile phone but a personal computer and digital assistant. it's also becoming the most popular device for hackers to target. Get our mobile and you get everything!
To lose all that data to a hacker doesn't bare thinking about. The security on these devices is therefore ever more critical. Mine is protected behind a 16 digit PIN number and a biometric fingerprint reader that encrypts the whole drive. But more importantly it runs on the very latest version of Android (6.01 MTC19T) that is fully patched.
I would no more consider buying a mobile device running an out of date OS or that carried unpatched security bugs that I would of firing up my old Windows XP box, uninstalling the Antivirus, turning off the firewall and connecting it to my Online Bank.