i consider myself a team player i always have been.
i play maps tactically with the team im on and the best way i know to win the round.
i will not though be forced to conform if someone does not like the way i play, nor will i tolerate, or do i expect to be called a 'knob' by a member of this community.
my apologies to the vast majority of you, this is not directed at the majority, infact its aimed only at one of your members. ive played with many of your members and found you to be very nice (as i will continue to play on other servers), but as the saying goes it only takes one to ruin it.
thnx for the three occasions i played your servers.
laterz
Nomad
13.Nomad|CGA|
Sorry to hear about your experience at dMw fella.
I urge you to give it another go.
Team play here is generally very good.
Most players being very helpful in the art of TCS. It as been known for rounds to be paused and even restarted whilst a new member is the server so that they can be shown the excepted rules and regs to TCS or PCS as it used to be.
SlOWHaND
Hmmm one bad apple.
Would name and shame be taking it a little far?
QuoteHmmm one bad apple.
Not guilty 8)
I was actualy trying to help Nomad understand the the do's and dont's .......as for any comments, well lets say not all our players are as forgiving as me :o
QuoteOriginally posted by JonnyAppleSeed@Jan 15 2004, 11:40 PM
QuoteHmmm one bad apple.
Not guilty 8)
I was actualy trying to help Nomad understand the the do's and dont's .......as for any comments, well lets say not all our players are as forgiving as me :o [/b]
You may be a little ripe Jonny but u havent turned yet ;)
I think you're being a bit hasty there Nomad.
Take the time to read the TCS ethos. You'll see that winning the round by rushing out of spawn to confront the enemy at the earliest opportunity is not TCS teamplay. Particularly if you are a T and are supposed to be guarding the hostages (and your teammates backs).
Quotei will not though be forced to conform if someone does not like the way i play
That's what we do I'm afraid. You either conform or leave. We run this community for the people who find TCS to be an oasis in a desert of servers catering for players who's only concern is their frag count. This server group is unique. Even CoFR do not enforce teamplay as we do.
Quote nor will i tolerate, or do i expect to be called a 'knob' by a member of this community.
Anyone who is spoiling the game for the majority and who refuses to change their play style will be jumped on by an admin and, quite likely, the other members. You are an extremely skilled player but that does not make you exempt from our guidelines.
TCS isn't everyone's cup of tea. We understand that. But the people who choose to play here do so because they want to and we are determined to see that they get the best gaming experience we can offer.
I hope to see you on the server again soon ... hopefully on my team ;)
On behalf of dMw, please accept an apology if anyone called you a knob.
But Oldie has a point. You were on my team and I had asked you to swap several times as you had joined T on cs_rio and made the Ts outnumber the CTs on a T biased map. You didn't change, so I forced a change of team on you via rcon.
I think on the round I swapped you a CT may have called you something which you heard because (1) they were not expecting you to be rushing them (it's not TCS) and (2) I had just forced a team change on you in mid round, hence you heard their voice-coms. If it wasn't that round then they were moaning about your rush tactics of the previous round.
I would remind all peeps to maintain control of both their language and discipline whilst on the servers. If you feel yourself about to err then just type noob instead of nob. See? Much nicer :D
TCS *is* enforceable and players in this community *will* conform to the player standards that they signed up for when they joined - remember, everyone's membership here (including mine) is voluntary.
Hope to see you on the servers some time soon.
TL.
ok having read the replies, my comments are:
i joined the game cs_rio and auto'd and was put on T (i always auto when i join a server)
i spawned and moved up inside the small house on the right.
Jonnyappleseed appears i i start to glock him (i hadnt bought anything), he turns and fails to kill me with an M4 so i finish him with the glock.
At some point around this time im asked to join CT as its a T biased map. my reply through team speak was along the lines of "sure np but i can't this turn but i will next turn".
jonny then tells me to stay in the house. i ask if he's serious, he says half serious.
next rnd starts, i'm gonna swap teams but instead i don't buy anything but i choose to rush ct with only my glock, a quick death that will nab a ct a kill.
instead im forced to T to hear one probably two ct call me a knob. at this point i leave.
i was on the server less than 5 minutes.
with all due respect offense is usually the best defense. i don't rush into the fray every game round, rather i watch a location and then depending on what the enemy are doing i react to this.
my cs background has seen me personally take a clan from 3rd div in ed to 8th in the prem, with my last clan we were also ed prem and even beat choke at one point (for those of you who know who choke are) this should give some indication of the level of team work and game play not to mention tactical awarness ive played at.
so you can imagine how restricting it is when someone says 'stay in the house' or only guard the bomb sites. i see no actual point in doing this every game turn it then simply becomes a predicatable sniping game.
like i said though, its ur server you can play any way u like on them, but i simply won't be when im subject to such pointless conformity in tactical play and then called a knob.
my apologies again i do not wish to rile anyone but i was irk'd when i made my first post.
i still look forward to playing with many of you on other servers.
gg pld.
As has been previosly pointed out, we play Cs in a different manner to most people. The idea being that you complete the objective, so if this means camping in the the house to guard the hossies then thats what you do. There some restrictions as to what you can do as the defending team, if you abide by these it does make the game more enjoyable (we think). This is the reason we play here as we have all got fed up with frag/sniper whores on ther public servers (not that I'm calling you one of those). If you read the section here (http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showforum=56) That will give you an idea of what we are about. Yes we have rules as to what you can and can't do but these are there to make the game more enjoyable for everyone regardless of ability.
Again all I can do is apologise if you were offended, but feel that if you read the guidelines and try us again you will have an enjoyable experience on our servers.
QuoteOriginally posted by Gh0st Face Killah@Jan 16 2004, 11:27 AM
Again all I can do is apologise if you were offended, but feel that if you read the guidelines and try us again you will have an enjoyable experience on our servers.
fair enough. i fully understand this is the way that you wish to play on your servers and appreciate that.
should i return to your servers i'll play in this manner.
thnx for the responce Ghost.
No Problemo m8y. See you on the hook soon!!
QuoteOriginally posted by Nomad@Jan 16 2004, 12:11 PM
ok having read the replies, my comments are:
i joined the game cs_rio and auto'd and was put on T (i always auto when i join a server)
i spawned and moved up inside the small house on the right.
Jonnyappleseed appears i i start to glock him (i hadnt bought anything), he turns and fails to kill me with an M4 so i finish him with the glock.
At some point around this time im asked to join CT as its a T biased map. my reply through team speak was along the lines of "sure np but i can't this turn but i will next turn".
jonny then tells me to stay in the house. i ask if he's serious, he says half serious.
next rnd starts, i'm gonna swap teams but instead i don't buy anything but i choose to rush ct with only my glock, a quick death that will nab a ct a kill.
instead im forced to T to hear one probably two ct call me a knob. at this point i leave.
i was on the server less than 5 minutes.
with all due respect offense is usually the best defense. i don't rush into the fray every game round, rather i watch a location and then depending on what the enemy are doing i react to this.
my cs background has seen me personally take a clan from 3rd div in ed to 8th in the prem, with my last clan we were also ed prem and even beat choke at one point (for those of you who know who choke are) this should give some indication of the level of team work and game play not to mention tactical awarness ive played at.
so you can imagine how restricting it is when someone says 'stay in the house' or only guard the bomb sites. i see no actual point in doing this every game turn it then simply becomes a predicatable sniping game.
like i said though, its ur server you can play any way u like on them, but i simply won't be when im subject to such pointless conformity in tactical play and then called a knob.
my apologies again i do not wish to rile anyone but i was irk'd when i made my first post.
i still look forward to playing with many of you on other servers.
gg pld.
Hi Nomad,
I think there is a need to inform you and other new players to TCS about the history/background of TCS/PCS to so you can see it from 'our' perspective. Maybe this is something we should add to our homepages for clarification of the ethos of TCS. GFK's answer above was sufficient to some extent and I find it reassuring that you will try our style of play.
The History of TCS/PCSPCS started little more than 3 years ago on Network 42 and was called Professional CS. The idea was to create a haven from spammers, cheaters, frag monkeys etc for those who were interested in teamplay. The server was setup and along with large custom map rotation a set of rules were created.
The first rule was the priorities every player should follow: 1. Team 2. Objective 3. Kills i.e. getting the best score on the scoreboard was of least interest and getting your team (and yourself) through a round with least possible losses but still completing the objective was of highest interest.
One of the following rules were the boundary rule i.e. invisible lines on the map restricting the defensive team to go to far from the objective. These lines were not to be crossed unless the bomb was planted or the hostages were touched and transported away. The 'lines' were to make sure that the players would forget what it was all about i.e. defending the objective. It should be regarded as a help rather than a restriction.
Here at dMw we adopted the same style and along came the boundaries. We have played with boundaries for three years and not long ago we converted to TCS (Tactical CS) that dissolved the boundaries (invisible lines) but still kept the team-objecive focus of the style in the game. Even though there are not lines drawn on the map the objective confines the defending team somewhat. Yes flanking is allowed but not in the beginning of a round. A straight rush from spawn away from your objective is wrong irrespectively of how you look at it.
The idea as defending team is to prevent the opponent to get to the objective. If you have managed to get the time to run out on a round without the opposition even coming close to the objective you have done a great job. This doesn't mean that flanking is wrong or not allowed as long as the defending team covers the objective. On a DE map it is very important to cover BOTH sites even if a rush is called on one side of the map. It could be a distraction!
If you look at the gameplay of TCS from that perspective I guess it could seem stale at first but we find it rather dynamic within the confined realms of objective oriented play.
Regarding switching and being asked to switch or joining a certain team we at dMw community have the following stand point.
Quote1. Selecting team
When you join a TCS server you should check the scoreboard so that you can join the losing team. If the scores are level you should join the attacking team. If you've joined the “wrong†team you may be asked to swap teams - please do this as soon as possible, it helps us balance the teams to ensure successful gameplay.
So on our servers auto join a team should never be an option. If you are unsure ask what team to join and people will help you out.
When asked to switch the player should switch asap after dying or round end (even if it means losing gear). We are proud of the fair play attitude on our servers and don't tolerate TK/TW just before map changes (or anytime else) that you might experience on a public server.
Suicide rushes are not tolerated if it would mean breaking any set of our rules.
I hope you and all other new members understand the background of TCS and why we play the way we do. I am sure you will enjoy playing on our servers.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
I see where you're coming from Nomad - if you are an excellent shot and strong player who can help take a team up several divisions then it's only right that you want to use that skill.
However, for all of us here, we play because we don't like that style of deathmatching (as Sadako and GFK so eloquently put) and got sick of 12 year olds with high pitched voices calling us losers as they worked their hax magic on various publics (which you obviously aren't) :) We also aren't that good ;) We tend to know each other quite well and if someone says "go there" or "do that" we tend to do it - no one is trying to get teamates killed or spoil their fun.
If someone called you an offensive name then simply send a message to an admin and it'll be dealt with - it isn't acceptable from any member of this community.
I used to auto select on rounds, but on here we tend to look at the board - if a team is kicking ass, irrespective of numbers then help out the little guys. We've all been Ts on aztec on publics, getting our ass royally kicked as it's a ct biased map, only to see some utter ignorant TANGO go and join the T team so he can rack up the scalps. Sorry but I got tired of that a long time ago :(
Hope you pop back in mate - no hard feelings here :)
i thank those of you that have posted for your input.
i understand your way of play and i'll respect that in future.
there are various comparisons people are making but i won't continue this post.
enough to say thanks again peeps.
/me hugz Sad.......................then shoots him
:huh: :D :huh: :P
QuoteOriginally posted by Nomad@Jan 16 2004, 06:16 PM
/me hugz Sad.......................then shoots him
Result. :D ;)
QuoteOriginally posted by Nomad@Jan 16 2004, 06:16 PM
/me hugz Sad.......................then shoots him
:huh: :D :huh: :P
Ownage, lol. Just get back on the server but first place a few beers next to you. While playing drink a few and have an excellent time. :cheers:
Way to go Nomad :)
Played that man. look forward to seeing you on the hook :)
QuoteOriginally posted by Nomad@Jan 16 2004, 07:16 PM
/me hugz Sad.......................then shoots him
:huh: :D :huh: :P
:wub: Your place or mine? :wub: