To any UK forum member who was considering voting to leave the EU or were undecided it's now clear that the only vote is to Remain within the EU. A leave vote would be a complete and utter disaster for the country and would undermine the very fabric of what it is that makes us British. It's not the economy, it's not immigration, it's not payments to the EU and it's certainly not the arguments about democracy or accountability.
The only factor that should be considered is the status of the finest of British Creations.....
The Cornish Pasty (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/10/cornish_pasty_eu/)
Remember: Vote Remain On the 23rd June. You know it makes sense.
This is an older one but if beer becomes more affordable in the event of a BREXIT, it means more to me than Cornish Pasties maintaining their identity :D
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/31/wetherspoons-brexit-beer-mats-eu-referendum-imf
Rats now I'm back on the fence :ranting2:
But for most of those reasons is why people will vote to leave the EU :confused: e.g. with the EU payment rebate, surely we should have a say where it is spent not the unelected politicians in Brussels?
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Quote from: Snokio;414130But for most of those reasons is why people will vote to leave the EU :confused: e.g. with the EU payment rebate, surely we should have a say where it is spent not the unelected politicians in Brussels?
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I agree, I think every country who has had strain on their economy these past 5 years or so think the same, Netherlands included. I think the Dutch are fed up of Europe as well, but their PM has already signed up for everything the EU plans so far, despite his people voting NO.
What would be good is if the pound would go 1:1 with the Euro. Then I can get some of my lower EU salary moved to the UK for cheap.
But it's the EU rule that prevents other EU Countries from pinching our recipes for Cornish Pasties, or worse just naming their inferior muck as Cornish. If we leave the EU then our pasties will not get the protection of EU law they deserve. Then anyone could bake up a crusty monstrosity and label it a Cornish Pasty. Where would we be then eh! It doesn't bear thinking about. The entire campaign from both the Leave and Remain has been a tissue of lies, fabrications and misinformation. This is about the only tangible fact we have so surely it's enough for us to stay a member?
SAVE THE PASTY
Oh and on another note the politicians in Brussels are elected. In fact some have to be elected twice, once to their own National Governments and then again by the European Parliament.
They're either Government Ministers elected by us in National elections, that sit on the Council of Ministers
or Members of the European Parliament elected by us in the European elections
or EU Commissioners, who are also elected politicians chosen by our own Governments and admitted or rejected by the elected MEP's. The only folk who aren't elected are EU Civil Servants and they don't make policy they just implement what they are told to by the elected officials.
But this is all irrelevant, we're talking about the future of the Pasty here people.
We need to preserve this
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or we'll end up with this
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I spot the thumbprint of a French baker in the Cornish Pasty already
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Who would buy a Cornish pasty in France?
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On the flip side we could use all the land on the closed down steel plants to make Champagne :P
The pasty can hold its own. If we keep changing the crust location at random we can keep them guessing
*Eyes plane ticket to Australia*
I hear Kangaroo Pasties are really nice...
If you think that being in the EU means that your cornish recipies are not being pinched, you're sorely mistaken.
You can find them at every block over here :norty:
Also just because they're called Cornish Pastie's doesn't make them any good ;-) That chain you see in every train station have highly variable quality of Cornish Pastie IMHO. I find the lack of meat in the meat pasties disturbing. Still voted to leave :D postal vote sent today.
I spoke to someone at the weekend that said they were voting to stay in the EU because roaming charges were going to go up if the UK left the EU. :eyebrow:
That was it, that was their only reason lol
Well I've heard things nearly as bad. Someone decided they wanted out of the EU because they believed that the European Convention of Human Rights was a bad thing that protected terrorists and criminals, which it might be. What they didn't realise was that the Convention was something created by the Council of Europe and not the European Union. So even if we left the EU we would still be in the Council of Europe and bound by the Convention and answerable to the European Court of Human Rights. So they were voting for something that wasn't going to change at all.
I sometimes wonder how many people are voting for something and they don't actually know what that something even is. I was at a BBQ on Saturday when the subject came up. Of a group of about a dozen adults not one of them knew the difference between the European Parliament, The Council of Ministers and the EU Commission! The didn't know how they were made up, how they were elected or what their areas of responsibility were. How can people vote on something so important when the little they know on the subject came from the tabloid press and their mate in the pub who 'knows stuff about politics'. I don't blame these people though, I blame the likes of David Cameron and Boris Johnson whose idea of informed debate is to lie over and over and try to terrify the voters into voting their way. No wonder so many voters, myself included, have no idea what to vote.
I think this will go down as the most ill informed, fact devoid referendum where both the Remain and Leave groups are guilty of an endless tirade of lies, misinformation and deceit. Whatever we decide it certainly won't be as a result of anything approaching an informed, intelligent debate based on clear facts and principles.
I despair of British Politics. Maybe the future of the Cornish Pasty isn't just my idea of a joke post, but actually the only clear factually based argument for staying or leaving. It's no more ridiculous than the other verbal diarrhea that pours out of the politicians and news press.
However on the flip side if we do leave the EU I can get rid of that crappy EU number plate logo and go back to a normal one.
Decent Pasty's or Pretty Numberplates ......... I'm back on the fence .... again :sad:
I've decided.
*** Huge simplification alert ***
The 'remain' argument centres around how much worse off financially we'll all be if we leave.
The 'leave' argument is centred around taking back control of our own destiny.
Some things are worth paying for - I'm out.