Seems to be quite a few fundamental changes in this WW2 version.
No premium package, which probably just means it'll cost £60. Can't complain though I always get my moneys worth with BF.
Details here (https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/apos-battlefield-v-apos-returns-204900753.html).
Trailer
[video=youtube;AzTbkpHHUbg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzTbkpHHUbg[/video]
With any luck they'll release a demo/free weekend for me to try before committing to buy it
Quote from: lionheart;431571Seems to be quite a few fundamental changes in this WW2 version.
No premium package, which probably just means it'll cost £60. Can't complain though I always get my moneys worth with BF.
Details here (https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/apos-battlefield-v-apos-returns-204900753.html).
Will they ruin the game with micro transactions?
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We will have to see but i really like the idea of all the major changes that they have done. Its nice to see that they have gotten rid of premium, and also that anyone can now revive so give the team a bigger chance to stay alive if you work together. i want to see a lot more gameplay but i think i will end up with this game
I'll get this I think looks cool what do you think of it Lion.
Only one I haven't bought is Hardline.
Liking the look of this so will probably pre-order to get on Beta when it's available.
It would be awesome if a load of us get it and get our own bf server, loved those days.
I would love to get this. I was big into BattleField 2 and 2142
There’s so many positive coming from this reveal week. No hero pickups, no behemoths, no health regen, squad reviving...
Few negatives also but I’m looking forward to seeing/playing actual multiplayer.
It's hard for me to be anything but pessimistic with any EA title these days, but what I'm hearing here does sound like steps in the right direction at least.
I will endeavour to keep an open mind to the game. It has been a long time since I enjoyed a battlefield game, but once upon a time they were a huge part of my gaming life.
Do we have any Origin Access subscribers? The game opens up October 11th for subscribers, otherwise known of the Thursday of the October LAN :D
Quote from: Chaosphere;431597Do we have any Origin Access subscribers? The game opens up October 11th for subscribers, otherwise known of the Thursday of the October LAN :D
I'd love to be able to try it on someones system if that's the case - I'm still hoping that they'll release some sort of demo during the beta stage
Quote from: Chaosphere;431597Do we have any Origin Access subscribers? The game opens up October 11th for subscribers, otherwise known of the Thursday of the October LAN :D
That would be me then chaos, I brought it and haven't cancelled it yet, I want to see more game play from youtubers I would say before I pre order or anything but can then show people it a Lan if I get it
Quote from: .DickDastardly.;431598I'd love to be able to try it on someones system if that's the case - I'm still hoping that they'll release some sort of demo during the beta stage
Its £3.99 for 1 month. Its not that much to pay and could make it the Friday night game.
Well we won't be running it as a LAN event, with it 1) having only just been released, 2) requiring a subscription AND a £60 purchase to join in, and 3) with so many in the community being more than a little fed up with EA games, and in particular the Battlefield franchise (it used to be a regular staple for us but EA's behaviour pushed many of the regular dMw-ers away from the games).
I mentioned the LAN and the early access as I'd love to check the game out. If they deliver on the positives we are reading about and the game ends up making good on some of the problems from the last few titles, it could be one to watch. I'd like to see some return to battlefield from dMw, but I'd wager it'd have to 'earn' it first...
Quote from: Evilntwisted;431607Its £3.99 for 1 month. Its not that much to pay and could make it the Friday night game.
is this £3.99 for origin access?
Quote from: .DickDastardly.;431612is this £3.99 for origin access?
Not sure if minimum term
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nice one evil I'll get that now I think some good games on it.
Quote from: Chaosphere;431609Well we won't be running it as a LAN event, with it 1) having only just been released, 2) requiring a subscription AND a £60 purchase to join in, and 3) with so many in the community being more than a little fed up with EA games, and in particular the Battlefield franchise (it used to be a regular staple for us but EA's behaviour pushed many of the regular dMw-ers away from the games).
I mentioned the LAN and the early access as I'd love to check the game out. If they deliver on the positives we are reading about and the game ends up making good on some of the problems from the last few titles, it could be one to watch. I'd like to see some return to battlefield from dMw, but I'd wager it'd have to 'earn' it first...
Understood. I was just thinking about a 1 month go but get where your coming from.
Known changes so far :
• No Season Pass
• Launch locations are France, Africa and Rottedam and North Africa desert
• Coop Mode called Combined Arms
• Single player War Stories return
• Fortifications are things like sand bags, trenches, tank stoppers. Only supports can build offensively defense fortifications such as machine guns, field cannons and are much faster at building everything.
• Predetermined areas to build such as at flags, can rebuild destroyed buildings
• Attrition system - health bar is in stages, only regen up to closet stage not to 100 anymore
• Physical interactions - every action in the game requires a player interact for things like medkits, spotting, ammo, ledge grabbing (example: healing requires walking over to a health pack, character animation to pick it up, then start healing)
• No more HUD/map spotting, spotting is based on movement/changes around you
• Attrition system - much less ammo on spawn, out of ammo after a few fights, but more ways to resupply ammo in the battlefield from packs, crates, or grabbing small amounts of ammo off of bodies (all requires physical interactions)
• Revive system has a full on animation, takes a few seconds to complete, no more revive trains, takes time to complete
• Ragdolls are server side, can now drag a downed player's body elsewhere
• Any class can do a squad revive, takes longer than a medic revive, does not give full health points
• Can call for help when down such as in the trailer
• Ragdolls (player bodies) effect the environment, push down grass etc.
• Gunplay completely changed
• No more visual recoil
• Each gun has a unique recoil pattern that can be learned and mastered
• Bipods easier to use and setup
• Bullet penetration through thin wood, sheet metal, walls
• Movement change, can now dive froward, backward, left and right similar to R6 Siege prone system
• Diving has a delay to prevent dolphin diving
• Crouch sprinting is in the game
• Can burst out of widows and commando roll, no destroying windows first
• Can catch, throwback or shoot grenades
• Less grenades because less ammo
• Can tow items in the game with vehicles such as previously stationary anti-air guns, teammate can use an anti-air gun while you tow it with a vehicle
• For example, can drive a tiger tank towing a field cannon behind it or a truck towing ammo crate to resupply teammates on the front line
• Destruction explodes inwards or outwards based on where the destruction happens. Throw a grenade inside of the building? The explosion sends things outside of it. Outside of it? Breaks inwards.
• Tank driving into a building slowly destroys a building, walls slowly crack/fall, not instant
• Heavily focused on squad play, instant placed in squad when joining a game
• New squad spawning system, squad deploy system that shows what squad mates are doing in third person in real time before the tactical map screen, so spawning on squad is kicker than spawning on tactical map screen
• Since squad spawning/deploying is faster than tactical map, squad wipes are serious
• Squads accumulate points that can be spent on "squad call-ins", only squad leader can spend them in
• Squad Call-ins are V1 or JB2 rockets as seen in the trailer, supply drops with ammo/health, a smoke barrage, heavy weapon pickups (not hero kits), squad only vehicles such as Churchill crocodile flamethrower tank or the Sturm tiger
• Elite classes are gone
• Behemoths are gone
• Large, non-fatal explosions can knock a player over
• Four classes are back: assault, medic, scout, support
• Create a solider, add them to a company of soldiers, then can customize things like gender, face look, face paint, outfit, accessories, etc. and assign them a class archtype
• Class archetypes highly customizable
• Can be an assault that specializes in anti-tank or anti-infantry only, or a mix of both, etc.
• Highly specialized archetypes called exotics such as a recon paratrooper, stealthy short-range behind enemy lines person who uses a suppressed SMG and silent gadgets like pistols and garrotes comes with silent footsteps and throwing knives
• Can change and add specialization trees such as agility, flak armor, suppressive resistance
• The more you play a class more you get more specializations/archtypes within said class
List of known changes so far :
• No Season Pass
• Launch locations are France, Africa and Rottedam and North Africa desert
• Coop Mode called Combined Arms
• Single player War Stories return
• Fortifications are things like sand bags, trenches, tank stoppers. Only supports can build offensively defense fortifications such as machine guns, field cannons and are much faster at building everything.
• Predetermined areas to build such as at flags, can rebuild destroyed buildings
• Attrition system - health bar is in stages, only regen up to closet stage not to 100 anymore
• Physical interactions - every action in the game requires a player interact for things like medkits, spotting, ammo, ledge grabbing (example: healing requires walking over to a health pack, character animation to pick it up, then start healing)
• No more HUD/map spotting, spotting is based on movement/changes around you
• Attrition system - much less ammo on spawn, out of ammo after a few fights, but more ways to resupply ammo in the battlefield from packs, crates, or grabbing small amounts of ammo off of bodies (all requires physical interactions)
• Revive system has a full on animation, takes a few seconds to complete, no more revive trains, takes time to complete
• Ragdolls are server side, can now drag a downed player's body elsewhere
• Any class can do a squad revive, takes longer than a medic revive, does not give full health points
• Can call for help when down such as in the trailer
• Ragdolls (player bodies) effect the environment, push down grass etc.
• Gunplay completely changed
• No more visual recoil
• Each gun has a unique recoil pattern that can be learned and mastered
• Bipods easier to use and setup
• Bullet penetration through thin wood, sheet metal, walls
• Movement change, can now dive froward, backward, left and right similar to R6 Siege prone system
• Diving has a delay to prevent dolphin diving
• Crouch sprinting is in the game
• Can burst out of widows and commando roll, no destroying windows first
• Can catch, throwback or shoot grenades
• Less grenades because less ammo
• Can tow items in the game with vehicles such as previously stationary anti-air guns, teammate can use an anti-air gun while you tow it with a vehicle
• For example, can drive a tiger tank towing a field cannon behind it or a truck towing ammo crate to resupply teammates on the front line
• Destruction explodes inwards or outwards based on where the destruction happens. Throw a grenade inside of the building? The explosion sends things outside of it. Outside of it? Breaks inwards.
• Tank driving into a building slowly destroys a building, walls slowly crack/fall, not instant
• Heavily focused on squad play, instant placed in squad when joining a game
• New squad spawning system, squad deploy system that shows what squad mates are doing in third person in real time before the tactical map screen, so spawning on squad is kicker than spawning on tactical map screen
• Since squad spawning/deploying is faster than tactical map, squad wipes are serious
• Squads accumulate points that can be spent on "squad call-ins", only squad leader can spend them in
• Squad Call-ins are V1 or JB2 rockets as seen in the trailer, supply drops with ammo/health, a smoke barrage, heavy weapon pickups (not hero kits), squad only vehicles such as Churchill crocodile flamethrower tank or the Sturm tiger
• Elite classes are gone
• Behemoths are gone
• Large, non-fatal explosions can knock a player over
• Four classes are back: assault, medic, scout, support
• Create a solider, add them to a company of soldiers, then can customize things like gender, face look, face paint, outfit, accessories, etc. and assign them a class archtype
• Class archetypes highly customizable
• Can be an assault that specializes in anti-tank or anti-infantry only, or a mix of both, etc.
• Highly specialized archetypes called exotics such as a recon paratrooper, stealthy short-range behind enemy lines person who uses a suppressed SMG and silent gadgets like pistols and garrotes comes with silent footsteps and throwing knives
• Can change and add specialization trees such as agility, flak armor, suppressive resistance
• The more you play a class more you get more specializations/archtypes within said class
some real interesting changes in that list, looks great...seems like their trying to make it harder for players to dominate.
Multiplayer footage here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=495&v=TAMQMO6CEvk)
WooHoo.....Just got an invite to the closed alpha, anyone else?
Closed Alpha 2 starts tomorrow, They must know what a fan boi I am :)
Please keep us up to date with what you think on the game lion ! Sadly ain’t invited to any of these
Yeah, I find myself actually interested in it too.. hopefully someone has it as the LAN!
Quote from: lionheart;433640Closed Alpha 2 starts tomorrow, They must know what a fan boi I am :)
I've got the invite also, and I'm at the LAN!
Chances are this stage of the Alpha won't last too long, first one was only a week :(
FFS! Alpha 2 finished today at 15:00, never even got a chance to play it. :(
Oh rubbish :(
Quote from: lionheart;433732FFS! Alpha 2 finished today at 15:00, never even got a chance to play it. :(
I wanted to start it up yesterday evening and was surprised that it was down already also....
New trailer looks good.
https://youtu.be/-FEgeuGsmzQ
Seems the circle of fire at the end is likely a teaser of the Battle Royale mode. Not surprising, of course, it was inevitable we'd see this sort of mode in the game.
Although I'm not sure the tense and tactical nature of Battle Royale goes with Battlefield's cinematic action-packed style, it'll be interesting to see how they approach it.
https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2018-08-30-battlefield-5-delayed-a-month
Well, we won't be checking it out at the LAN anymore, unless they leave the beta going for an absolute age.
This is absolutely due to the struggling preorders, and the already cramped release window (Red Dead, CoD). I'm sure the game will still sell well overall, but it looks like all of the bad press surrounding the Battlefront and previous Battlefield titles has finally caught up to EA, at least with regards to preordering.
Hopefully they'll get rid of the woman with the robot arm as well.......
Quote from: lionheart;434018Hopefully they'll get rid of the woman with the robot arm as well.......
I think this is one of the main issue's unfortunately. Dice's pushed agenda and then attitude towards people who can't swallow it is terrible.
"If you don't like it, don't buy it"
I can't believe the Dice guy said that! I'm glad pre orders are down.
The open beta is available to pre download. Opens on the 6th.
Did you say OPEN beta????
Installing it NOW
Awesome I will download that when I get home so it's ready for when it's out. Thanks mike
Quote from: SithAfrikaan;434111Did you say OPEN beta????
Installing it NOW
Your reason for editing makes me giggle.
Cheers Mike!
Nice one downloading now
Enjoyed what i've played so far. I'ts very similar to BF1 and i didn't really take to that :(
EDIT: just checked and i still played over 100 hours in BF1 lol
Tried it, not for me. Found the pace quite slow and seems to similar to bf1
Yeah it just seems to be a reskin of bf1 - lazy by EA
Disappointing, this is always my biggest grumble with the Battlefield games. Still, I didn't play BF1 so I'll still be giving this a go, maybe it'll float my boat, maybe not!
I did read an interview with one of the devs who said one of the biggest challenges is keeping the games fresh. On the one hand, the games have to still feel like battlefield, or the players who enjoy that experience will be turned away. On the other, if the game doesn't do anything new it gets labelled as a reskin.
Of course, it doesn't help when you're releasing a title every 12 months. You also add having to spend another £40 every year into the mix, which no doubt exacerbates the problem.
Like I said, having not played BF1, and having not played a battlefield at all for years, I'm keen to have a go.
Battlefield 1 released 2016. I think if BF1 had been better people may have been ok BF5 being ww2. But yeah this feels like BF1.5 with all the fixes people wanted or didn't like about BF1 but we've had 2 years of that already!
Because BF1 was **** I myself was hoping for a return to modern day as I much preferred BF3 & 4 to both BF1 & 5.
And I'll be very happy when they remove the battlefront HUD.
Ah that's interesting, that it was in fact 2 years ago. I was working under the assumption it was still a yearly fiasco.
I suppose the rest of my post is still applicable, though. What's hard to know is exactly why they decided to stick to the world wars for BFV, and exactly what it is that is hurting preorders so much. It may be overlooking things to say people didn't like BF1, as we (enthusiast gamers) are often a very vocal minority. I wonder if 'our' opinions of BF1 actually reflect the overall 'sales reality', if that makes sense.
It'll be interesting to see how the game performs. If the enthusiasts are all saying what you are Mike (i.e. BF 1.5), and the 'non-enthusiasts' (who easily make up the silent majority in gaming - I think Jay would call these 'casuals' :roflmao:) aren't interested for one reason or another, the game could really flop.
Just like I haven't pre-ordered so far, I certainly still won't be (no matter how I find the beta). I'll be trying the beta if I can get a chance, though, and will just keep an eye on how it all plays out from there.
Exactly, there's plenty of wars to work with if they don't want to do a modern warfare type thing
I'm really disappointed as I'm a huge fan of the battlefield series they should of done a more modern shooter
Battlefield 1 was a big disappointment for me (still played 471 hours though) and is also the reason why I did not pre-order battlefield V.
I do like the WW2 setting, but a modern shooter would have been welcome too. BF4 is still the best battlefield IMHO.
I have mixed feelings with this beta and I will play it a bit more. But most likely I will not pre order it. I might buy it if a lot of my friends buy the game. Because that is what it is all about for me. Playing with friends.
I didn't play Battlefield 1 at first, I only got into that a couple of weeks ago when I signed up for Origin Access in preparation for Battlefield V.
I like the beta so far. Took a little while to get used to the gameplay after PUBG for too long, but it seems that the game itself is fairly optimized (no issues running it on my aging gaming rig), I like the gameplay, and if enough of you lot are going for it I can see myself spending many a Battlefield Friday (remember those?) playing this game.
As this is only a beta of Conquest and Grand Operations mode, it's going to be fun to see what other modes they throw in.
Oh, and there's always the campaign.
Played some more this evening and I have to say it's a massive improvement on BF1 with the gameplay mechanics (although the new squad attrition system is useless with randoms (never have ammo)), but it's still not a patch on BF3 & 4.
For me, personally, they've not moved far enough away from BF1 for me to warrant getting this, I know i'll just drop it after a few weeks.
Looks like i'm waiting for World War 3.
[video=youtube;wZdep0iacx0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZdep0iacx0[/video]
I spent all of 9 minutes on this then uninstalled, I have no idea how that gameplay is supposed to be fun, it's so weirdly fast paced, and I'm not sure if it's the game camera or what, but it feels disjointed to me, I played a ton of BF4 and BF3 I don't remember them being like this at all...
German shock troop running through some town and it was just this mushy grey mess, the enemy in a tank literally steamrolled everyone, so silly...
I thought it was slow paced and struggled to find people, found it boring.
Not sure what game mode you were playing in to find it slow paced... its nuts.
After a few rounds, I am fairly positive. I'll say again that I didn't touch BF1 for even a minute, so I am coming in fresh from that point of view...
It is fast-paced frantic action that shoots well, looks gorgeous (even on my mid-range laptop)... overall, quite fun. Plenty of bugs in this Beta, but still quite playable.
I find myself in the mood for a more 'casual' FPS right now, and these few rounds ticked the right boxes for me. I'll definitely be keeping an open mind, and may well pick up the game at, or soon after release.
https://kotaku.com/battlefield-vs-beta-feels-too-slow-1828857936
Apparently you're playing this one :D
Seems a few have the same criticism, that it feels slow paced. I think some are finding gaps between the combat to be forced and artificial due to the ammo and health restrictions. Having to run off to resupply, for example. This is largely an issue of playing solo. Play in a squad, bring a support or two, and the problem is surely solved, no? I am looking forward to some actual squad gameplay with other dMw, and perhaps this will fix the pacing issues for those who are running into them.
On the other side of that coin, though, I don't think the same can be said for the actual combat. It certainly retains the pace of the previous games :D.
I dunno, my heart says this boat has sailed for me, never got engaged to 3 or 4 and didn't entertain the idea of the interim releases. But... I said I wouldn't buy Monster Hunter and did and serious love playing it. I just don't know if I need another FPS.
I can get that mate. There are very mixed feelings towards this one in dMw, and we're probably not the only gaming community having these discussions.
For me, I am currently in this frame of mind -
- I am looking for a more casual FPS to complement Overwatch (which really I can only play as a competitive game).
- That casual game needs to be something I can jump into for a few hours once or twice a week to unwind. The gunplay is probably the most important factor here, along with a group of mates to play it with!
- I didn't play BF1, and haven't played a WW1-2 shooter since the 'good old days' of the early Call of Duties.
- Enough time has passed that I feel willing to take a plunge at a Battlefield again, even if I have felt burnt by EA before.
I've been really enjoying the beta, and find myself wanting to keep going. Because of that, I am probably going to end up getting this one.
(Feel free to berate me for giving in to the horror that is EA as a developer, despite spouting plenty of anti-EA rhetoric in the past! Shameful, I know!)
played around in the beta lastnight as a support, i found it fun enough to want to carry on. But i hated the way BF4 hackers took over alot of the time which drove me away from that, and the fact this was before i joined DMW back on cs:go, hoping this will re-ignite the fun with others to group up with.
Really hope they don't release too many paid for expansions too soon :(
I'd have to disagree with the slow paced statement. I played a few games yesterday and one this morning and I was not stood in the same spot for more than two minutes. I spent most of my time in vehicles today and it was so much fun supporting the ground troops capture the objectives and shooting down planes. I have uploaded some clips to YouTube and will link them below. Playing this has increased the chance of me buying it as have only experienced one bug so far and hopefully it'll be fixed upon release.
Battlefield V Playlist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xJciLq8Xro&list=PLAJqmu192ZcOVdMakDtR3C_JpTKYRJIdz)
Quote from: Gunda;434220Really hope they don't release too many paid for expansions too soon :(
All the DLC for Battlefield 5 is free.
I don't think the slow paced comments are leaning towards your players play style but more towards the gameplay. If you read the article Chaos posted it's more, yes your soldier wasn't stood still for more than 2 minutes but you was running backwards and forwards to the supply crates rather than being in battle.
There's no denying they've added attrition to slow the game down and make it more squad based/tactical.
I'm kind of enjoying it, it's growing on me. My Assault class is rank 8 and my STG is maxed, my other classes are around rank 5 (apart from support I'll play today). Hope there's more weapons and progression on release.
Quote from: Mikep1212;434223All the DLC for Battlefield 5 is free.
Don worry Gunda they will find a different way to screw you :)
Oh absolutely they will. It wouldn't be an EA game if they didn't find a way to stick it to the customers :D !
On that optimistic note, I have put my money where my mouth is and purchased the game via CD Keys (£36). I've really enjoyed the few hours I've played, it's just the sort of gameplay I'm looking for right now.
That said, I do not advice preordering unless you are sure. The game could absolutely still flop, or launch with problem after problem, who knows! It'd be great to play with some dMw, perhaps on a Friday night (:D) but don't preorder counting on that as we know it's hard to tell how many in the community will jump in, and for how long. Caution is advised!
Do we know anything regarding server hire in this new game? They ruined that in BF1 and i'm unsure if they ever fixed it.
I don't think there is an 'official answer' on it yet. Take that as 'I wouldn't hold your breath'. :roflmao:
shame, as 4 man squads it's extremely limiting from a community perspective.
[video=youtube;pl55Dq0o36E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl55Dq0o36E&t=311s[/video]
Hah ohmygod that vid is brutal lol
Sorry Angry Joe. EA do what they do and as long as the money keeps coming why would they ever stop.
Fast Bullets "In WWII the Germans said we woulda won if we just had faster bullets, dang"!
I must say, the in game currency system and lack of in action weapon changing or mod attachment changing is an immersion killer. When you have games like Escape from Tarkov that allow you to do practically anything to your weapons in a game, or even good old CS:GO that at least allows you to pickup your recently killed enemy's gun. Also 2 clips of ammo and then back to restock you go? Or 32 guns in game, most AAA shooters have a lot more choice. Just feeling they are doing all they can to string out a short game and make it live longer.
It's one thing that many of the YouTube commentaries pick up on too. I don't disagree, having to drop out of game to change your weapons is jarring. I'd like to see it changed by release, but the pessimist in my feels this is unlikely with EA... For me it isn't a deal breaker, but I certainly don't disagree that it isn't ideal.
The weapon choice doesn't bother me too much, as I tended to just use 3 or 4 of the 80+ in the older Battlefields anyway. Again though, you can't disagree that 32 is a significantly smaller number of launch weapons than the aforementioned 80+ (that I think BF4 landed with).
Many of these niggles are going somewhat over my head as I'm just looking for a more casual and relaxed experience. As a result, they just don't matter as much to me, personally. I will say that this perhaps makes me 'too forgiving', and I can at least see why others are more put off by some of this stuff.
P.s. I moved your above post here Albert as it is more relevant to the general game discussion, pros and cons etc, than the simple yay or nay poll.
Fair enough mate. I think what you describe is a £20 game not a £35 game from cdkeys. Just because it's a BF game doesn't compel me to pay a very high price unless the game is special. It's just not special enough from what I can see. Monster Hunter, that's special, it warrants the price tag. BFV is a fraction of that quality.
Whoa now, let's not talk quality on a game that locks to 60 FPS vsync, low res textures, post processing out of the 90s, and no 21:9 support by default... :roflmao:
That's another discussion entirely, but MHW is far from without its faults as a console port. May not bother you, but the technical failings were a constant pain in the backside / deterrent for me!
What it is though is very unique, and the gameplay is great (when it works as intended :norty:). I think that's more what you mean anyway? It certainly stands out, whereas BFV is 'just another FPS'. No argument there! Have really enjoyed my time with it, despite the above
Back on track with BFV, the pricing point is a very valid one indeed. And yeah, I can see many more people jumping in if this were to cost only £20, it does make it easier to forgive the flaws, or at least put up with them. Instead we end up with many people just saying no, and many more sitting on the fence, unsure. There's likely quite a big psychological difference between a game that costs sub £20, and a £40+ release.
Quote from: Chaosphere;434301Whoa now, let's not talk quality on a game that locks to 60 FPS vsync, low res textures, post processing out of the 90s, and no 21:9 support by default... :roflmao:
That's another discussion entirely, but MHW is far from without its faults as a console port. May not bother you, but the technical failings were a constant pain in the backside / deterrent for me!
What it is though is very unique, and the gameplay is great (when it works as intended :norty:). I think that's more what you mean anyway? It certainly stands out, whereas BFV is 'just another FPS'. No argument there! Have really enjoyed my time with it, despite the above
Back on track with BFV, the pricing point is a very valid one indeed. And yeah, I can see many more people jumping in if this were to cost only £20, it does make it easier to forgive the flaws, or at least put up with them. Instead we end up with many people just saying no, and many more sitting on the fence, unsure. There's likely quite a big psychological difference between a game that costs sub £20, and a £40+ release.
I tend to rate AAA £50 games on how long they keep me hooked. ;-)
The last 2 BF I bought I yawned after 20 hours. They were just yawn the same old same old. Even BF1 at a fiver is still same old but runs nicer on today's hardware compared to my old rig with BF4.
And BF3/3/1 all have amazing amounts of nice guns.
MHW just has so much going on and you can play in so many styles, it's ridiculously complex or extremely simple. It is a great game. And it gets over 90FPS on Ultra on a 1080Ti and looks amazing.
That said your points are valid Ben, BF fanboy!