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Forum Archive 2023 => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => It's a game ...but it ain't got its own topic! => Topic started by: Galatoni on July 29, 2019, 09:50:42 PM

Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: Galatoni on July 29, 2019, 09:50:42 PM
I've been meaning to get back into things a bit more, but i'm aware that time is usually against me, so I came across this little gem (https://store.steampowered.com/app/840800/) while it was on offer. I'll summarise what I know, though i'm by far no expert:
* Kinda like Ark in terms of combat difficulty, pick a fight early on and you're fairly certain to be killed
* You start with basically all the tech by the looks of things, no engrams or high-tech stuff here
* You level your base skills (health, stamina, accuracy, melee) but not skill-skills
* Resource gathering is largely as you'd expect
* There's no quick way across the map by the looks of things. Travelling is done the old-fashioned way... by taming horses, running or running a caravan of wagons
* The game is just gorgeous! From what i've seen it feels very American old West. Snow gathers when it falls, more generously on certain biomes/altitudes etc... it's very pretty!
* NPC's in the game are in the form of random wildlife and gangs of bandits which roam around
* Apparently fishing is a thing - and it's fun.
* Taming is much more forgiving! And you can build proper farms and have a lasso just like a real cowboy
* Hunting is also a thing

I realise I'm probably flogging 'yet another survival sim' but for me this seems much more laid back with quite a bit of emphasis on building and team work to create settlements. Anyone interested?
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: albert on July 30, 2019, 08:34:56 AM
I read some of the reviews and it takes a total ripping, for performance and reliability mainly, then lack of dev interest. 5 minutes + to login, when other Ark spin-offs take seconds.

Quote: "Best looking Rubberband simulator I've played so far."

An since you associate with Sithy and he's never plays anything for more than a week, :roflmao: you guys try and let us all know how it goes, I'm still playing the last recommendation I got from our likeable Safrikan friend. (Thanks for that, Citadel is still good after 33 levels).
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: Galatoni on July 30, 2019, 11:59:17 AM
I've not seen any of the rubber banding issues that seem to be prevalent in many of the reviews and my login time was fairly quick when I played. You've read the reviews and i've wasted my time writing about when I've played. We'll just close this thread then unless someone else is interested.

I've just spotted this other thread from a while ago too: https://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?44701-Outlaws-of-the-Old-West you posted in there too :D
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: albert on July 30, 2019, 07:04:19 PM
Thing is, if a group showed interest and wanted to really give it a go on a server as a clan, I'd give it a go. But without more people, I feel it's time wasted and gaming time is a rare comodity. I'm currently playing Citadel Forged with Fire. I was alone playing (until Sneaky dropped by) after Sulky (who refunded) OB, Sith, Addx and Rogue gave up on it after less than a week. TL is playing it now as well, but trying it out on another server at random.
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: Galatoni on July 30, 2019, 07:35:32 PM
You've made your decision, that's fine. I was more curious to know what other people thought of it since there has been a few that have taken the time to have a look. Clearly you're not a fan, and that's fine. But how should we proceed? Maybe by having a discussion about it rather than jumping to a single source? I'm not saying it's going to be perfect, but how do we find out about new games if we don't talk about them?
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: albert on July 30, 2019, 09:02:36 PM
Quote from: Galatoni;438495You've made your decision, that's fine. I was more curious to know what other people thought of it since there has been a few that have taken the time to have a look. Clearly you're not a fan, and that's fine. But how should we proceed? Maybe by having a discussion about it rather than jumping to a single source? I'm not saying it's going to be perfect, but how do we find out about new games if we don't talk about them?

Dude, I'm running out of fingers on which to count the number of first post hyped games we get on our forums. I hope seriously it lasts you more than a week but knowing the batting average I think it might be dead in dMw by the weekend.

In fact, can we start a forum section "It died a death in dMw"! lol

I'm being funny really .
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: Galatoni on July 30, 2019, 09:33:05 PM
Sorry man. I didn't realise you were. I don't remember forcing you to try any of these. I'm just trying to get an idea of the level of interest. I'll not bother in future.
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: Penfold on July 31, 2019, 12:13:06 AM
We need people to continually  post up ideas and content about new games as it's how we reinvigorate  what we play. Yes, many games do fall foul of our playerbase and it's  something that we've all suffered - buying a game to then realise it's  not what we want and consigning it to the dust heap. But hey ho, that's  the way it is. The only solution is to just not buy a game until the  discussion has been had to whether it's got legs or not.

Sithy is  a total game whore as we know. That's part of his..... umm..... charm?  You know he'll play a game for a couple of weeks then move on. That's  just what he does and how he rolls :).

If someone posts up a suggestion of a game then constructive comments are fine but just slamming it or the people is unacceptable.

We do have a problem of lack of content in games so the more we get the merrier . The lack of player numbers embracing a new game is always going to be an issue to be honest.
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: albert on July 31, 2019, 07:09:55 AM
Totally agree with everything you are saying Pen. Although I feel when a game has so many negative reviews it’s important to point this out to the community so it doesn’t end up a Lemming situation.

My take on promoting a new game into the community is different.

I feel simply posting the features of a game is just marketing ploy. The poster if he or she bought and plays the game should follow up with links to wikis, hints and tips and reviews as well as opinion. After all as a multiplayer community it’s all about helping each other, taking the time to share. Doing a bit of the research so others don’t have to.

Then maybe the original poster shows a bit of dedication to the game at least for a few weeks especially if a group of community members have bought and joined the OP to make a nice group of players and support the person in the first place.

I’ve said all this before and my deja-vu alarm is buzzin.
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: Galatoni on July 31, 2019, 07:40:22 AM
Obviously albert is right and i've done none of the above. I must ensure my game suggestions are of a higher standard before posting in future.

Please close the thread.
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: albert on July 31, 2019, 08:59:29 AM
I’ll expand on gaming time a being valuable commodity.

A player on the Citadel server built this:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1820250373

With his clan of 5 people. They joined the server 3 weeks ago and are all
Level 60.

I played 3 days with other dMw players and they left. After 3 weeks I have this:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1811198620

I’m level 34.

The best thing about sticking with a game is everyone who plays it benefits. Left alone you waste double the time for half the fun.

Now you can close it!
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: SithAfrikaan on July 31, 2019, 09:18:00 AM
Oh wait wait before you close!
I remember the only reason I ended up with Citadel is because Albert suggested I try Valley, which at the time was in a 3 pack by the developer for £2 extra to it's original price, and I then recommended Citadel as a worthy addition to his collection ( and clearly it was with all this enjoyment) and for all of us that do quite like Citadel, lack of a privately owned server pulled us away from the game, time spent building and then server wiping for no credible reason drove us away. I don't think we should host every game I suggest, Pen's 100% right I just like trying games, at large I also get to tell people if it's a risk (which I've tried to do more recently) BUT, a privately owned server would have kept some of the others myself included, interested.
To add to your time is a commodity comment, I shudder to think what this community's active game list would be like if some of us didn't blindly try any game going.
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: albert on July 31, 2019, 10:32:37 AM
I haven’t bugged the server admins about a dedicated server since the player base was so low.

Perhaps a poll is in order. Or indeed a general poll about what server should be the next one rather than just satisfy me with a Citadel one.
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: Penfold on July 31, 2019, 07:24:13 PM
Quote from: SithAfrikaan;438511I shudder to think what this community's active game list would be like if some of us didn't blindly try any game going.

This...
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: smilodon on July 31, 2019, 08:06:45 PM
If you see a game that looks interesting but that you haven't ever played - then post about it.
If you have played it for a bit - post about it.
If you have played it a lot and have found great reviews, negative reviews, mixed reviews - then post about it.

If you want to add positive or negative comments about the game then - post about it.

Sadly we get too few people (Albert, Sneaky, Sith, Galatoni and a few others) who highlight new games on this forum or in Discord, I'm guilty as charged but then I seem to be sticking with a small core of firm favourites and not playing much new stuff.

We never want to discourage anyone from posting about a new game, even if it's no more than a "This game hit early access, looks interesting". The minimum character count is just six letters :norty:

So if in doubt - post about it.

And it goes without saying we never ever criticise anyone for - posting about it :D
Title: Outlaws of the old west
Post by: Penfold on July 31, 2019, 08:59:56 PM
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