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Title: Graphics Upgrade
Post by: TeaLeaf on May 18, 2020, 01:59:27 PM
With Star Citizen now looking like it has something to play (big thank you to those of you currently playing it and posting about it), I need to upgrade my system so I can run the game.    I'm still trundling along using my 'Obsidian' water-cooled system that I built way back in 2013 (yee gods, that was 7 years ago!).  It runs an i7-4770K, 16GB RAM, SSDs for OS and games, and 2xGTX770(2GB VRAM each) in SLI.  The graphics card is a big problem in SC as it doesn't have enough VRAM and can't handle the 2560x1600 resolution (SC sees only 2GB VRAM from SLI), so I get a lot of stuttering to the extent that the game is unplayable.   When the monitor gets upgraded, I'll almost certainly be on something like 3560x1440, so whatever graphics card is bought will need to handle SC at those resolutions.  

The question is, which graphics card should I get?  I'm currently trying to work out why I would not just get a 5700XT as this seems the obvious performance value for money option.  The only nagging doubt in the back of my head is whether or not I should be looking for something that can G-Sync when the monitor is upgraded, but going nVidia seems to be a huge cost difference for the performance.

Anyone got any thoughts on how best to proceed?  


Thanks in advance for your input!
(As an aside, at some point I will decide my CPU is a bottleneck (which might be immediately after the gfx upgrade) and swap out my 7 year old CPU, motherboard and RAM as well, but I think I'll stick to upgrading the graphics card first as the system runs most other things perfectly well.)
Title: Graphics Upgrade
Post by: sulky_uk on May 18, 2020, 04:11:06 PM
Hey TL, it might be worth looking at this video, but with the leaks this guys has had access to, the new Nvidia 3000 series are going to have massive increases over the Nvidia 2000 series, even the 3060 is going to be faster than the 2080ti (Grrrrr)

But anyhew, id wait for a few months for things to settle and see what the score is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPufeQmFJk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Graphics Upgrade
Post by: TeaLeaf on May 18, 2020, 04:50:36 PM
Thanks Sulky, that looks like a staggering increase in performance is in the offing. :blink:

So that means I'm right in the 'wait, something better will be along soon' camp. Damn!
Title: Graphics Upgrade
Post by: Mikep1212 on May 18, 2020, 06:25:30 PM
Quote from: sulky_uk;441752even the 3060 is going to be faster than the 2080ti (Grrrrr)

Just be careful with the leaked specs. The 3060 is rumoured to be as fast as a 2080ti WITH ray tracing cores maxed, becuase Ampere fixes lots of the downfalls of Turing.

Also if you're going to wait for a 3000 series get ready to upgrade everything for PCIe gen4, in which case you may as well wait for DDR 5. :laugh:

There's always something new arounf the corner :D
Title: Graphics Upgrade
Post by: RizZy on May 19, 2020, 06:03:21 AM
I doubt the 3060 is gonna be cheap either, there's a big difference between £400 on a 5700xt & £1200 for a 2080ti

I've got a 5700xt & after some initial buggy drivers any problems it did have seem to have be smoothed out.

& also if we're just going of rumours & leaks then the next AMD card is meant to be something special.
Title: Graphics Upgrade
Post by: sulky_uk on May 19, 2020, 02:19:53 PM
Linus and J2cents and other youtubers are saying that they think the prices are going to be about the same as the 2000 series, other sources such as hexus are also saying that also. If its true ill be peeved as i have a 2 month old 2080ti, but it is what it is...400 quid for the same performance as my 2080ti
Title: Graphics Upgrade
Post by: albert on May 19, 2020, 02:31:53 PM
@TeaLeaf - I think no matter how much they state X new card will be the same performance and price and Y new card, you end up with the old XX80Ti aligning with a new XX60/70. To me this is an increase in price of the equivilent 60/70 model. So if you pay £800 for 2080Ti, a 3060 at £800 seems overpriced to me.

If you want something sooner rather than later, the 5700XT can always be a 2 year bridge to the 4080Ti you always wanted (or not, or will need once SC PU comes out in maybe 2 years).

Either way if you don't get something you don't get involved, so get with it dude, life goes by without gaming goodness if you have no graphics.