Hi All,
I think my graphics card just died on what was previously my 5 year old gaming computer.
Small coloured boxes started appearing and the screen would start freezing. This happened more frequently throughout the day.
Tried a driver update, checked all fans for operation and finally took it outside stripped it down and cleaned it down.
After a further half an hour the screen went black and wont come back on.
The Mrs mostly uses it now for work and the kids for watching YouTube and homework.
It has been many years since I built or upgraded a PC and therefore not sure what would be the best course of action.
For replacing the card, how do i find out what a suitable replacement would be and if it works in my current MB?
The Motherboard is an Asus Z170 Pro Gaming
The card is a / was an AMD Radeon R9 390 8Gb
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Mick
Quote from: smite;442390The Mrs mostly uses it now for work and the kids for watching YouTube and homework.
Seriously, anything cheap as a replacement gfx card would be fine, given you said your family use it more.
If you had said you game on it and want it to last a bit longer, then reel out the rest of the specs and maybe some help can be suggested to decide if it can be pronlonged.
But looking at the age of the R9, if you want to play some recent games then serious consideration on investment is probably needed.
Perhaps another member has a 970 you can snag.
Come winter i may end up playing WOW again, or i might eventually take the PC upstairs and use it for Assetto Corsa Competizione, so might consider a fairly ok card.
Original spec from memory was:
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming MB
Corsair Hydro something cooler
i5 -6600K @3.5GHz
16GB hyper x 3200Mhz ddr4
120SSD Samsung
1TB HDD
The card was a PCI Express x16 3.0. I'm assuming I can i just find a similar one.
Found a ASUS Radeon RX 580 on Aria for £175 which i think fits.
Or if not worth keeping as a gaming PC a ASRock Radeon RX 550 for £87
Your CPU has an integrated GPU, iGPU. If you aren't gaming with the system, you don't really need an external GPU at all, the CPU's iGPU will be sufficient for desktop use.
If you're getting something for casual gaming, then any modern GPU will work just fine. I wouldn't spend much, as the rest of the system will quickly bottleneck any decent GPU.
I'd suggest something like a 1650 Super, which is around that £170 mark. 1660, or 1660 Super would also be an option, if you wanted to spend more. None of these cards will suffer too much in that PC.
I don't know much about AMDs offerings at that price point, so can't comment, but if you do prefer team red just look at some reviews comparing to the aforementioned nVidia cards first.
LOL, didn't notice it had onboard, that's how out of touch I am.
Simply connecting to the onboard didn't work, so I'm assuming i need to remove the card and look at drivers etc...
I need to find out if it is actually the GPU and nothing else before buying a replacement.
Thank you to both for your assistance.
Try checking the BIOS, normally the onboard is disabled when you add the external card, but you can have both active via a BIOS setting.
Another thing about onboard GFX, the BIOS you have on your motherboard may be old and there were quite a few annoying bugs for onboard GFX chips in the beginning. Still are actually, like screen goes black randomly.
The 580 is perfectly fine for casual gaming...I had a 470, only upgraded because I have a 1440p monitor.
I remember why i stopped building / upgrading myself.
Changed bios to just use the onboard GPU, changed cable to onboard, starts up, can see ASUS logo and Bios then screen goes blank. Nothing.
Can tell the PC is booting but see nothing.
Removed GPU card, restart, yay can see log in screen. Log in and the screen continually blinks. Icons appear on desktop then disappear repeatedly. Try windows key or logo... nothing. The little circle next to the cursor constantly spinning.
CTRL,ALT,DEL and open Task Manager. That works at least but unsure what i can do with this. Tried turning off apps (radeon etc..) but does nothing.
Restarted in safe mode, thinking i need to remove / update drivers. Exactly same as above, can't access anything.... options, files / folders.
One time started not blinking but couldn't access anything from the start menu so had to reboot. Not done it since.
Have you considered that the graphics card is not actually faulty and it's the motherload that is on it's way out?
If you have another PC to test of course.
I'm afraid I don't. The kids and Mrs have laptops.
When I connected through the card this morning to swap to onboard in Asus bios i was still getting the coloured boxes. When switching to the onboard I've had none of these.
Also, the graphics are OK until I've logged on. Then it just goes into this loop. I'm sure there is a conflict of some sort but i can't figure it out.
Thought I would give a quick update.
Finally got the PC up and running again (all day today).
Due to the blinking screen issue (something to do with explorer.exe looping) and not being able to repair any way I tried or google suggested, I had to wipe my C:drive and do a re-install.
Managed to get it to stop looping once and copied some essential files to D:
Had many blue screens of death on install and updates but seems to be running stable now it's fully up to date.
Still running with the onboard GPU until decide if this system is worth saving / updating.
If you had BSODs on a windows install, something definitely isn't right! Anything overheating? Install something simple like HWInfo and check your temps...if not, could be another component on the way out, perhaps RAM or worse...
3 or 4 were related to a Memory_Management issue. Once I ran a memory diagnostic check I never had that issue again.
5 or 6 were related to IRQL_not_less_or_equal. These stopped once I got past installation of 1903.
Windows kept BSOD on an update which had a Defender update as well 1903. I updated Defender separately then re-ran 1903 update and it hasn't crashed since.
1909 ran with no issue.
Any previous links I had to my D Drive, My Documents and Pictures, saved to D: instead of C:, I can't access the folders / files, I have to remove previous security permissions and add new.
Tried doing all Files and folders using CMD (D:takeown /f /a /r /d y or D:takeown /f "path to file or folder" a/ /r /d y) but this only works on the folders for some reason.
The files i.e. pictures, pdf's etc won't change. I'm having to do them all manually Disabling and re-enabling Inheritance. 31,846 to go :)
Downloaded HWInfo and temperatures below:
CPU DTS Core = max 24°C
CPU DTS Distance to TJMax = max 79°C. Is this a normal temperature, calculated somehow?
CPU Enhanced = max 30°C
VR VCC = 43°C
Motherboard = 32°C
VRM = 36°C
PCH = 42°C
SSD = 28°C
HDD = 31°C
Not sure what else this can do tbh, does it check the RAM , Drives etc?
For info:
Fixed the 31,000+ files. Sorry if you already knew this.
In CMD:
takeown /F "D:\USER\Documents" /A /R /D Y
cd D:\pears\Documents
icacls *.* /reset /T /C
Jumping back into this thread.
After all of the initial problems, the system has been running fine using the onboard GPU.
Today I decided to strip the NG card down, clean it all off and inspect the card.
- Couldn't find anything visibly / physically wrong with it.
- Cleaned all thermal compound off, re-applied with arctic silver and put back together.
- Updated the BIOS
- Fitted, restarted and had the same artifacts appearing on boot then desktop, after 30 secs the screen went black.
The card is dead and in the bin.
I'm going to buy a cheap but decent card so the kids can use it as the system is still rapid.
I guess dead is dead. Nothing lasts for ever. GPU's, from memory, are the only thing I've had die on me in situ, rather than growing old and obsolete, with the exception of a PSU years ago.
Been trying to find a replacement for the past week, as the new PC is not going to be ready until at least Feb, nowhere selling 1650s, 1660 or 1660s.
I could get a 1650 but that was worse than the card that died. Also decided to use Nvidia instead of Radeon just in case I driver issues.
If anyone knows of a secret stash anywhere let me know :rolleyes:
Mr P just managed to snag a 1660 after weeks of repeatedly checking stock, on a daily basis.
I think if you can wait til Feb, save yourself the hassle and just look then.
Quote from: Chaosphere;444023I think if you can wait til Feb, save yourself the hassle and just look then.
This made me chuckle.......as it's exactly what I have decided to do (not that I had a choice due to lack of stock everywhere). Sound advice Ben.
Smite, if you just need 'a card' to get you through to Feb I have a card I could send you through the post. It's an old HD5850. I used to run games on it at 1080p on my office PC (yes, it's not just Penfold that plays games on his office PC). Let me know if you want it posted.
Cheers Gents, I'm just being impatient and can live quite easily without it :lmfao:.
To prove my point about being impatient I did something majorly Dumbass STUPID after writing that post this morning.
I found an Asus GTX 1650 Super TUF on Currys in my area. Added to basket and it said collect from store Saturday........ (impatient dumbass moment incoming) I thought, nah Saturday is too long.... I'm off to the store to get it.
30 mins later, "Sorry Sir, we don't keep PC components in store, you order them on-line and they get delivered.
20 mins later at home (drove home like a bat out of hell) No stock left ...... FFFFFFFSSSSSS :doh:
I then wonder, I have a smart phone, 4G... WHY THE **** DIDN'T ORDER IT OUTSIDE THE STORE.
(store wouldn't do it btw)
So..... I'm punishing myself by not ordering until Feb just to teach myself not to be a thick **** :roflmao:
Bagged a Palit GeForce GTX 1650 Super StormX 4GB (https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/NVIDIA+GeForce/GeForce+GTX+1650+Super/Palit+GeForce+GTX+1650+Super+StormX+4GB+Graphics+Card+?productId=72143) from Aria this morning.
No, I couldn't wait. Punishment cancelled :roflmao:
Nope... it was a glitch at their end.
There are no cards :crying:
Back again.
Found a "Palit NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB StormX Turing (https://www.scan.co.uk/products/palit-geforce-gtx-1660-super-stormx-6gb-gddr6-vr-ready-graphics-card-1408-core-1530mhz-gpu-1785mh)" on Scan.
Looks like it was the only one or a cancelled order put back on. Let's see if this one is real / turns up.
Fingers crossed for you!
It's looking good :woot2:
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Or maybe not?
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brilliant photoshop skillz
Photoshop? Microsoft Paint I'm afraid :)
The B******s are at it again, winding me up with their MS paint skillz
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Laurence? You live in a posh area it seems :flirty:
and what a mighty fine fellow he was.
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Open it and enjoy a plate of Kitty Cat :norty:
Congrats on finally getting hold of one :D
Cheers buddy.
3440x1440 @100hz :yes: