QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Mar 2 2004, 10:56 AMGiven how small the CD client is I have just put a shortcut to it in my startup group. Consequently, it starts every time my PC starts :)
Is there a little hack that can make C-D start automatically when cs starts? In days of yore we had programmes that did it (forget what it was called. <_< Smilodon, step right up please. :D )
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Mar 2 2004, 11:56 AMIf you are running HLSW
Is there a little hack that can make C-D start automatically when cs starts? In days of yore we had programmes that did it (forget what it was called. <_< Smilodon, step right up please. :D )
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke@Mar 3 2004, 10:19 PMThere's a Steam update? When? Oh no, your talking about the one that's still trying to get on my computer. :whistle: :ph34r:
Cheating Death removed and VAC re-instated due to CD problems with latest Steam update.
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke@Mar 7 2004, 04:05 PMWorks fine for me???
CD will be back. A new client has already been released but is too flaky at the moment to recommend users download and install it.
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Title: Cheating Death
Post by: OldBloke on March 15, 2004, 09:13:17 PM
CD now back on servers but at present is only mandatory on Baldric.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Grimnar on March 24, 2004, 07:41:13 PM
What is wrong here:
I start up CD and then i start up steam then i connect to the server and it says that i'm not running CD so i checked for an update but there isn't any. So i restart steam again. And then the server says it again :blink: How and why if someone knows the answer plz tell ;)
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Doorman on March 24, 2004, 07:43:25 PM QuoteOriginally posted by Ice Hawk@Mar 24 2004, 07:41 PMSorry, we can't tell you, it's a secret. Irritating though ennit?
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Grimnar on March 24, 2004, 08:41:57 PM
yeah you get a very big name if the server doesn't notice that you have CD on
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: OldBloke on March 25, 2004, 08:03:20 AM
As you've probably realised ...
Steam update = Broken Cheating Death <_< I've disabled CD again for now. CD patch is imminent and will be deployed when confirmed as stable.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: RizZy on March 25, 2004, 04:51:24 PM
I'm a little bit confused as to the need for CD on a server thats locked, not used for matches & you know all the ppl who play on it - the only reason I can figure is you think ppl are cheating on there, which, playing in the style that is tcs I see very little point too, as its not about an individuals skills but the ability to work as a team that counts, or am I missing something really simple?
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Grimnar on March 25, 2004, 05:23:13 PM
well for dMw it is simple.
We still get new people playing on our server who we don't know. So you don't know if they cheat or how good they are etc.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Maus on March 26, 2004, 06:25:06 AM
And from experience it's much less annoying to get killed repeatedly by someone who's damn good than someone who's cheating.
I've joked about anti-cheat stuff being unnecessary in TCS, but it's all about peace of mind I guess. Call me a sentimental old fool, but I like to be able to trust the people I play with. :) What are the benefits of using CD again? If it's going to need a bit of faffing about with every Steam update should we not just stick with VAC?
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 26, 2004, 07:34:24 AM
VAC is to anti-cheat, how shall we say, what a sieve is to the water storage industry. :blink: The bottom line is that CD seems to be more effective than VAC at stopping cheats.
Our objective was to make CD mandatory on Baldric, our match server. But it is easier for us from an Admin perspective to apply CD to all three servers (rather than just one) and then tweak the configs to make it mandatory or optional on each server. Installing it on just Baldric and not Homer & MH is more labour intensive, hence when CD is running it is mandatory on Baldric, but only optional on Homer and MeatHook as our objective is to secure Baldric. TL.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Anonymous on March 27, 2004, 12:23:15 PM
Version 4.18 now available. Get your existing CD client to check for update and you will get it. I assume it fixes this weeks Steam update :whistle:
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: atdi on April 01, 2004, 08:35:16 PM
lol well [CD] will stop me being on ur server fullstop... 56k + CD dnt work tbh
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2004, 08:52:55 PM
Yup, every single Steam update breaks CD. I reckon Valve are trying to do it deliberately so that only VAC works (which it doesnt)
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: brass on April 04, 2004, 01:33:49 PM
Got a different message today:- After updating CD and exiting and updating Steam, having deleted "blob" file. Starting the game lets you load the security file and starts to "precache resources" then comes the new message "Connection to VAC Server has been aborted, please read CD manual" ? Reading the "MANUAL" under the heading NOTICE it seems like I have just been saved from a world ban. I always knew I was "Lucky Jim". Please somebody save me from Steam. :whistle:
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2004, 01:39:53 PM
Can I suggest that until Valve/Steam/United Admins get this sorted out that we stop running CD?
It seems that we go through the same process every week. I now don't bother with CD because it has become more annoying than the cheats it aims to block (not UAs fault I would say but the overall effect is annoyance)
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: brass on April 04, 2004, 01:49:06 PM
Amen to that BB
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Grimnar on April 04, 2004, 02:54:45 PM QuoteOriginally posted by brass@Apr 4 2004, 12:33 PMIf you get that message then disable CD and you can play normal ;)
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Norm on April 04, 2004, 07:27:30 PM
Lo all,
I got cd on my servers and dont seem to have any problems with steam updates.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: OldBloke on April 05, 2004, 10:53:55 AM
Cheating Death is now running again and is mandatory on *all* three servers.
We have had to do this because we need to have CD running on Baldric, our match server, and the way we have our servers configured means that we can't have a mixture of both VAC and CD. We know there are some anti-CD feelings being expressed within this forum but our research shows that many players perceive better bullet registration ('reg') and less lag. Add this to the fact that CD is updated far more regularly than VAC and you can see why we've made this decision. As usual, please feedback your comments here and rest assured that making your playing experience an enjoyable one is uppermost in our thoughts. dMw Admins
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: brass on April 05, 2004, 11:43:12 AM
Just paid a quick visit to all three servers with CD running, everything went sweet as a nut. :D
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Grimnar on April 05, 2004, 12:30:12 PM
Weeeeeehheeeeeee
I'll check it out tonight ;)
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: A Twig on April 05, 2004, 01:15:04 PM
boo, im gonna have to update my CD now :(
'll just wait till it goes down again, then come back to the hook :P
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Dr Sadako on April 08, 2004, 10:29:35 PM
Here you go.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Doorman on April 08, 2004, 11:43:55 PM QuoteOriginally posted by A Twig@Apr 5 2004, 12:15 PMUpdating C-D is the simplest thing you'll ever do. When you start it, click 'Check for update' Job done.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: [CIGS]Strider on April 15, 2004, 11:04:23 PM
Hi guys, long time no seen. Anywayz, I have different skins installed. Is that the reason I get kicked from your servers (I believe CD does that, correct me if I am wrong)??
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: GRIM_REAPER on April 15, 2004, 11:13:16 PM
latest version of CD? make sure you star tCD before you start steam, about the modles i think other ppl use diffrent modles so i dont think that'll be the prob.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Dr Sadako on April 15, 2004, 11:15:47 PM
I think that the CD needs to be started before you start CS. I don't think it matters if you start it before steam or not.
Not sure about the skin models. Could it be a server configuration?
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Benny on April 16, 2004, 09:08:29 AM
I have to start CD before Steam or it bounces me out. Maybe I'm just lucky like that.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Grimnar on April 16, 2004, 09:38:48 AM
yeah CD doesn't accept all skin models some are blocked.
Just like some sounds skins are seen as cheats.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on April 16, 2004, 09:42:17 AM
I start it first as a matter of course if i'm playing on the hook, and just turn it off if i don't need it. I'm running the csru final pack and it has no problems with any of the skins/sounds in that.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: [CIGS]Strider on April 18, 2004, 02:11:14 PM
Hmmz, ok thank you!!
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Maus on April 18, 2004, 05:13:12 PM
It's probably worth pointing out that if you connect with ASE (and I think HLSW, and no doubt a few other server browsers) you can have it start and close CD automatically when you join/leave the server. In ASE you do it like this:
1) Go to Tools > Options in the menus 2) Click on the "Games" tab 3) Select Half Life and you'll see a button on the right called "Anti-cheat programs" 4) Click the button, and then browse to the location of the CD program (most likely "C:\Program Files\Cheating-Death\cdeath.exe") 5) Adjust the radio and checkboxes to suit your preferences 6) Voila! Alas it's been so long since I used HLSW I've forgotten how it's done there, but I don't remember it being very hard. I've never had any trouble with launching CD after I start Steam though, and if you do then starting CD this way won't be helpful.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: OldBloke on April 29, 2004, 09:13:43 AM
Yesterday's update has yet again rendered CD useless so it's back to VAC for the dMw servers.
The Admins fully appreciate the inconvenience this causes our community. We will look at the VAC vs CD debate again particularly in light of the raft of VAC releases that have been released recently.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Grimnar on April 29, 2004, 09:30:18 AM
a bit strange because i got that update yesterday and after that my steam is restarted and i could play with CD or does it have to do with an server update?
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: OldBloke on April 29, 2004, 09:50:38 AM QuoteOriginally posted by Ice Hawk@Apr 29 2004, 09:30 AMServer update.
Title: Cheating Death
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2004, 11:14:14 PM
There is a new CD client released (18.2)
Don't bother though as it fixes nothing :(
Title: Cheating Death
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