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dMw Chit Chat => The Beer Bar => Seriously though ... => Topic started by: Benny on March 07, 2004, 07:37:33 PM

Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Benny on March 07, 2004, 07:37:33 PM
My routes to the hook seem screwed.

Tracing route to //www.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.19]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     7 ms    10 ms    10 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    26 ms    29 ms    30 ms  btdhg512-hg1.ealing.broadband.bt.net
  3    24 ms    29 ms    29 ms  217.47.30.161
  4    22 ms    30 ms    29 ms  217.47.30.234
  5    22 ms    29 ms    19 ms  inh3cs02-500.imsnet3.btopenworld.com
  6   275 ms   289 ms   290 ms  btfl02-gig7-7.imsnet3.btopenworld.com
  7   283 ms   289 ms   279 ms  core1-pos4-3.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.9.241]
  8   285 ms   279 ms   289 ms  core1-pos10-0.redbus.ukcore.bt.net
  9   683 ms   289 ms   289 ms  linx2.telecomplete.net [195.66.226.139]
 10   294 ms   300 ms   299 ms  r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
 11   300 ms   300 ms   299 ms  netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net
 12   296 ms   300 ms   299 ms  193.110.88.19





to USA.COM
 1     7 ms     9 ms    10 ms  192.168.0.1
 2    24 ms    29 ms    30 ms  btdhg512-hg1.ealing.broadband.bt.net
 3    21 ms    30 ms    29 ms  217.47.30.161
 4    26 ms    29 ms    29 ms  217.47.30.234
 5    28 ms    29 ms    29 ms  inh3cs02-500.imsnet3.btopenworld.com
 6    22 ms    29 ms    29 ms  btfl04-gig8-7.imsnet3.btopenworld.com
 7    22 ms   160 ms    49 ms  core1-pos6-2.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.9.249]
 8    20 ms    29 ms    29 ms  transit1-pos3-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.9.234]
 9    55 ms    29 ms    29 ms  t2c1-p1-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.13]
10    28 ms    29 ms    30 ms  t2c2-p8-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.208.110]
11    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms  t2a1-ge7-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.135.49]
12    24 ms    29 ms    29 ms  ge-0.linx.londen03.uk.bb.verio.net [195.66.224.138]
13    55 ms    26 ms    29 ms  p16-7-0-0.r01.londen03.uk.bb.verio.net [
14   104 ms   109 ms   109 ms  p16-0-0-0.r80.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net
15   100 ms     *      109 ms  p16-0-1-3.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net
16   185 ms   189 ms   189 ms  p16-1-1-3.r20.sttlwa01.us.bb.verio.net
17   199 ms   189 ms   189 ms  ge-0-1-0.a12.sttlwa01.us.ra.verio.net
18   177 ms   169 ms   179 ms  p1-0-0-2.a12.sttlwa01.us.ce.verio.net
19   172 ms   179 ms   179 ms  border3.ge2-0-bbnet1.sef.pnap.net [63.251.160.7]
20  infosp-4.border3.sef.pnap.net [63.251.162.218]  reports: Destination net unreachable.
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: OldBloke on March 07, 2004, 07:45:54 PM
I'm having probs too. My trace appears to be b0rked at Tele House (ntl).
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Grimnar on March 07, 2004, 07:53:21 PM
So i'm not the only one who has probs like this.
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 07, 2004, 08:59:54 PM
What's your tracert?

TL.
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: albert on March 12, 2004, 06:46:16 PM
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
  2    18 ms    16 ms    16 ms  lo1-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.130.141]
  3    17 ms    16 ms    15 ms  ge5-1-core4.th.eclipse.net.uk [81.5.191.41]
  4    18 ms    18 ms    18 ms  linx2.telecomplete.net [195.66.226.139]
  5    25 ms    26 ms    26 ms  r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
  6    28 ms    26 ms    26 ms  netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
  7    27 ms    26 ms    26 ms  homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Mine sometimes borks too, I've seen 400ms + on MH recently but this is the normal route. Hmm, it's been one of these days, know whats wrong but recreating it is another matter. :angry:
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2004, 06:47:32 PM
Albert. Yer 5 days too late m8 :D
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 12, 2004, 08:11:31 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Mar 12 2004, 06:47 PM
Albert. Yer 5 days too late m8 :D
That has to be the worst case of lag I've seen so far......  :whistle:

I'll get my coat.......

TL.
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2004, 09:22:48 PM
Slow electrons I reckon :D
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Stryker on March 15, 2004, 10:13:18 AM
Looks like possible problems at one of the NAPs.... maybe Linx?  who knows.

God how many days late is this reply?  :lol:
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: albert on March 15, 2004, 11:01:15 AM
:oops:
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: DuVeL on March 15, 2004, 12:03:39 PM
Better late then never!
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2004, 12:16:09 PM
While we are at it, I had some pretty ropey connections to the server last July. Stryker, can you get that fixed please?  :devil:
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Sn00ks on March 15, 2004, 09:09:44 PM
I was having bad pings a while back and it was always at the same router. So I sent a complaint into BT about it and they've fixed it  :D  Sent me a nice reply and then phoned to check it was all OK  8)
Good service.
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: DarkAngel on March 15, 2004, 11:11:35 PM
Think we may be having the same problem down here i thought about phoning in but no need as im moving. Oldie didnt you say you had some problems as well?
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on March 15, 2004, 11:15:55 PM
Alot of these problems may be caused by cs:cz. It seems to stop and start of its own accord, even if you pause or cancel it. Another wonderful steam idea!!
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: OldBloke on March 16, 2004, 08:09:01 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by DarkAngel@Mar 15 2004, 11:11 PM
Think we may be having the same problem down here i thought about phoning in but no need as im moving. Oldie didnt you say you had some problems as well?
Yep. ntl forum's are full of disgruntled bods.  :angry:
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Stryker on March 16, 2004, 10:29:26 AM
I think there may be issues with one of Crosswired's upstreams upstream... erm if you get my drift.

Rest assured I'm looking into it  :ph34r:
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: DarkAngel on March 16, 2004, 01:54:15 PM
QuoteYep. ntl forum's are full of disgruntled bods.

Gonna see if its any better here at my sisters as started move today think they got 128 see if i can play online with it  ;) . Anyone know much about wireless cable supposed to be getting 1mb wireless dish connection in new house when we move in  <_<  then better once the place upgrades. Wondered if any1 has it or used it?
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Sn00ks on March 16, 2004, 06:29:05 PM
You know I said that my ping problems had been resolved, well, they're back again  :(  and it's the same router again!

C:\>tracert 193.110.88.20

Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    18 ms    18 ms    18 ms  btdhg522-hg2.ealing.broadband.bt.net [217.47.135
.201]
  3    19 ms    18 ms    20 ms  217.47.135.161
  4    19 ms    20 ms    21 ms  217.47.135.238
  5    20 ms    19 ms    22 ms  inh3cs02-500.imsnet3.btopenworld.com [213.1.119.
62]
  6   256 ms   260 ms   257 ms  btfl02-gig7-7.imsnet3.btopenworld.com [213.1.119
.149]
  7   251 ms   251 ms   272 ms  core1-pos4-3.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.9.241]

  8   274 ms   277 ms   273 ms  core1-pos10-0.redbus.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.25
4]
  9   274 ms   280 ms   276 ms  linx2.telecomplete.net [195.66.226.139]
 10   279 ms   282 ms   272 ms  r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
 11   336 ms   281 ms   265 ms  netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.2
6]
 12   257 ms   258 ms   256 ms  homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Trace complete.


Oh well back to BT to find out what they're going to do about it.  :angry:
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: suicidal_monkey on March 16, 2004, 06:56:22 PM
I got ADSL via virgin.net (http://www.virgin.net) but I can see a few ntl boxes in that there there trace! :help:

Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    17 ms    17 ms    16 ms  glfd-bam-1.inet.ntl.com [194.145.148.4]
  2    17 ms    16 ms    17 ms  gfd-t2core-b-ge-wan63.inet.ntl.com [62.254.207.173]
  3    16 ms    18 ms    17 ms  gfd-bb-b-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.29]
  4    20 ms    18 ms    18 ms  tele-ic-2-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.74]
  5    19 ms    18 ms    18 ms  ntl-gw.telecomplete.net [213.160.97.41]
  6    29 ms    27 ms    27 ms  r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
  7    29 ms    28 ms    29 ms  netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
  8    30 ms    29 ms    28 ms  homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Trace complete.
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Stryker on March 17, 2004, 09:57:11 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sn00ks@Mar 16 2004, 06:29 PM
You know I said that my ping problems had been resolved, well, they're back again  :(  and it's the same router again!

C:\>tracert 193.110.88.20

Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    18 ms    18 ms    18 ms  btdhg522-hg2.ealing.broadband.bt.net [217.47.135
.201]
  3    19 ms    18 ms    20 ms  217.47.135.161
  4    19 ms    20 ms    21 ms  217.47.135.238
  5    20 ms    19 ms    22 ms  inh3cs02-500.imsnet3.btopenworld.com [213.1.119.
62]
  6   256 ms   260 ms   257 ms  btfl02-gig7-7.imsnet3.btopenworld.com [213.1.119
.149]
  7   251 ms   251 ms   272 ms  core1-pos4-3.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.9.241]

  8   274 ms   277 ms   273 ms  core1-pos10-0.redbus.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.25
4]
  9   274 ms   280 ms   276 ms  linx2.telecomplete.net [195.66.226.139]
 10   279 ms   282 ms   272 ms  r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
 11   336 ms   281 ms   265 ms  netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.2
6]
 12   257 ms   258 ms   256 ms  homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Trace complete.


Oh well back to BT to find out what they're going to do about it.  :angry:
Snooks, your problem is quite clearly with BT, get on the phone to them!
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on March 17, 2004, 10:11:16 AM
Who do you work for again Sn00ks?
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 17, 2004, 04:35:06 PM
Strange  :unsure:

On ISDN via Fast24  r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
 was giving me grief last night.  I tracked it through on PingPlotter.  But in the post above it seems clear :(

TL.
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2004, 04:51:03 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Mar 17 2004, 04:35 PM
Strange :unsure:

On ISDN via Fast24 r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
 was giving me grief last night. I tracked it through on PingPlotter. But in the post above it seems clear :(

TL.
Clear?  I wouldn't call
Quote10 279 ms 282 ms 272 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
particularly clear or were you getting seriously nutty mad mental horrible grief?
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 17, 2004, 05:31:59 PM
Nope, I was looking at suicidal_monkey's post.

Quote29 ms 27 ms 27 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net

I hadn't noticed Snooks, but it looks like the big nasty for him starts well before r1.tcw.telecomplete.net

I'll have a go at my ISP too though :D

TL.
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Grimnar on March 17, 2004, 06:04:46 PM
Microsoft Windows XP [versie 5.1.2600]
© Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Dhr. Klok>cd \
C:\>tracert 193.110.88.20
Bezig met het traceren van de route naar homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
via maximaal 30 hops:
1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2    12 ms    11 ms    10 ms  195.190.241.248
3    27 ms    17 ms    25 ms  iawxsrt-pbw-bb13a.wxs.nl [195.121.255.193]
4    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  iawxsrt-m6-bb14a.wxs.nl [195.121.0.149]
5    28 ms    26 ms    27 ms  amsix1.telecomplete.net [195.69.144.178]
6    36 ms    36 ms    35 ms  r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
7    36 ms    36 ms    36 ms  netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
8    37 ms    36 ms    37 ms  homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
De trace is voltooid.
Title: Anyone else getting network grief?
Post by: Stryker on March 22, 2004, 10:49:22 AM
It is very rate we have an issue via telecomplete.  Also the crosswired router that peers with that upstream is due an upgrade.... watch out in the server issues forum.
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