Ok so there was a bump in the road last night when it croaked. I'll be keeping an eye on it and also visiting blackadder in a min to see why it didnt use the other remaining healthy router.
Anyways, while its working at least, how you guys find the performance? Come on God-Stryker has bestowed on you his gifts so lets have some feed back, preferably in the form of some traceroutes.
"Dont know how" I hear you say? open a command prompt and type "tracert 193.110.88.20" and then cut/paste the results to this thread.
Ta
Lazy Git
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/tracert.ch?ip=193.110.88.20 (http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/tracert.ch?ip=193.110.88.20)
or one from home
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms btdhg508-hg3.ealing.broadband.bt.net [217.47.6.74]
3 16 ms 14 ms 14 ms 217.47.6.34
4 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms 217.47.6.106
5 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms inh3cs02-500.imsnet3.btopenworld.com213.1.119.62]
6 16 ms 17 ms 17 ms btfl02-gig7-7.imsnet3.btopenworld.com 13.1.119.149]
7 16 ms 15 ms 16 ms core1-pos4-3.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.9.241]
8 16 ms 17 ms 16 ms core1-pos4-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net194.74.65.113]
9 17 ms 17 ms 18 ms linx1.telecomplete.net [195.66.224.139]
10 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
11 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
12 29 ms 28 ms 29 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
C:\>tracert 193.110.88.20
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.2.100
2 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms 82.182.99.1
3 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms cr1-gig1-3.djakneg16.mlm.bostream.net [82.182.4.13]
4 34 ms 20 ms 14 ms cr2-gig1-1.torgg4.sth.bostream.net [82.182.0.17]
5 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms cr1-gig1-16.torgg4.sth.bostream.net [82.182.0.9]
6 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms ge-3-0-0.ar1.ARN1.gblx.net [64.213.23.153]
7 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms pos9-0-2488M.cr1.HAM1.gblx.net [67.17.72.234]
8 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms pos10-0-2488M.cr1.FRA2.gblx.net [67.17.92.213]
9 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms so3-0-0-2488M.ar2.FRA3.gblx.net [67.17.65.82]
10 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms ge-7-2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [195.122.136.245]
11 35 ms 34 ms 35 ms ae-0-53.mp1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [195.122.136.65]
12 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms so-3-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.128.57]
13 50 ms 50 ms 51 ms so-7-0-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.10]
14 51 ms 51 ms 50 ms so-6-0.metro1-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.30]
15 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms 212.187.197.197
16 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms fa0-1.lon7.as8553.net [193.111.29.22]
17 51 ms 52 ms 51 ms fa1-0.lon6.as8553.net [195.10.255.194]
18 54 ms 54 ms 54 ms s6-1.bris1.as8553.net [195.10.255.134]
19 54 ms 55 ms 56 ms fa0-0-2.bris2.as8553.net [195.10.254.82]
20 59 ms 59 ms 59 ms s6-0.man1.as8553.net [195.10.255.14]
21 60 ms 61 ms 66 ms cwrt2.crosswired.co.uk [193.110.88.2]
22 71 ms 60 ms 75 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Trace complete.
C:\>tracert 193.110.88.20
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 981 ms 1013 ms 1055 ms leic-t2cam1-b-ge-wan34-102.inet.ntl.com [80.7.30.137]
3 1001 ms 960 ms 1021 ms nott-t2core-b-ge-wan63.inet.ntl.com [80.1.79.197]
4 894 ms 958 ms 1011 ms nth-bb-b-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.37]
5 925 ms 1005 ms 1204 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 1003 ms 1121 ms 1035 ms tele-ic-2-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.86]
7 1221 ms 1202 ms 1263 ms ntl-gw.telecomplete.net [213.160.97.41]
8 1191 ms 1351 ms 1142 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
9 987 ms 976 ms 986 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
10 988 ms 1086 ms 1018 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Trace complete.
and then i turned WinMX off
C:\>tracert 193.110.88.20
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 7 ms 10 ms 8 ms leic-t2cam1-b-ge-wan34-102.inet.ntl.com [80.7.30.137]
3 10 ms 15 ms 12 ms nott-t2core-b-ge-wan63.inet.ntl.com [80.1.79.197]
4 14 ms 11 ms 12 ms nth-bb-b-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.37]
5 16 ms 14 ms 21 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 18 ms 17 ms 12 ms tele-ic-2-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.86]
7 16 ms 15 ms 16 ms ntl-gw.telecomplete.net [213.160.97.41]
8 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
9 22 ms 22 ms 24 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
10 22 ms 24 ms 30 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Trace complete.
's all right.
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Router [192.168.168.230]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 31 ms 35 ms 32 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Trace complete. <_<
1 39 ms 39 ms 40 ms srv1.lcst.uk.mediaWays.net [62.55.80.78]
2 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms rmws-lcst-uk01-fe-0-0-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [62.55.80.65]
3 41 ms 41 ms 42 ms rmwc-milt-uk01-so-0-1-1-0.nw.mediaways.net [62.55.80.109]
4 50 ms 49 ms 50 ms rmwc-lond-uk01-pos-4-6.nw.mediaways.net [62.55.80.149]
5 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms rmws-lond-uk01-ge-0-3-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [195.71.254.5]
6 52 ms 50 ms 49 ms linx1.telecomplete.net [195.66.224.139]
7 59 ms 59 ms 59 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
8 69 ms 65 ms 67 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
9 65 ms 63 ms 63 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Target Name: homer.deadmen.co.uk
Date/Time: 09/04/2004 11:01:44
1 0 ms [192.168.7.1]
2 17 ms lo1-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.130.141]
3 17 ms ge5-1-core4.th.eclipse.net.uk [81.5.191.41]
4 21 ms linx2.telecomplete.net [195.66.226.139]
5 29 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
6 27 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
7 29 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
having a few problems with ping shooting up and down can any one make any sense of these i did 3 traces
1 10.146.47.254 unknown 63ms
2 80.7.30.1 leic-t2cam1-a-ge-wan44-100.inet.ntl.com 63ms
3 80.1.79.69 nott-t2core-a-ge-wan63.inet.ntl.com 79ms
4 62.253.188.33 lee-bb-a-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com 79ms
5 62.253.185.238 pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com 79ms
6 213.105.172.78 pop-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com 79ms
7 62.253.185.86 tele-ic-2-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com 79ms
8 213.160.97.41 ntl-gw.telecomplete.net 94ms
9 193.0.255.230 r1.tcw.telecomplete.net 110ms
10 213.160.121.26 netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net 110ms
11 193.110.88.20 homer.deadmen.co.uk 78ms
1 10.146.47.254 unknown 16ms
2 80.7.30.1 leic-t2cam1-a-ge-wan44-100.inet.ntl.com 16ms
3 80.1.79.69 nott-t2core-a-ge-wan63.inet.ntl.com 31ms
4 62.253.188.33 lee-bb-a-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com 16ms
5 62.253.185.238 pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com 31ms
6 213.105.172.78 pop-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com 16ms
7 62.253.185.86 tele-ic-2-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com 31ms
8 213.160.97.41 ntl-gw.telecomplete.net 31ms
9 193.0.255.230 r1.tcw.telecomplete.net 172ms
10 213.160.121.26 netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net 63ms
11 193.110.88.20 homer.deadmen.co.uk 31ms
1 10.146.47.254 unknown 15ms
2 80.7.30.1 leic-t2cam1-a-ge-wan44-100.inet.ntl.com 15ms
3 80.1.79.69 nott-t2core-a-ge-wan63.inet.ntl.com 15ms
4 62.253.188.33 lee-bb-a-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com 15ms
5 62.253.185.238 pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com 31ms
6 213.105.172.78 pop-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com 31ms
7 62.253.185.86 tele-ic-2-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com 31ms
8 213.160.97.41 ntl-gw.telecomplete.net 31ms
9 193.0.255.230 r1.tcw.telecomplete.net 47ms
10 213.160.121.26 netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net 31ms
11 193.110.88.20 homer.deadmen.co.uk 47ms
any ideas?
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 10 ms 20 ms 8 ms 10.132.111.254
2 8 ms 9 ms 14 ms cmbg-t2cam1-b-pos83.inet.ntl.com [80.1.202.157]
3 12 ms 13 ms 9 ms cmbg-t2core-b-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [80.1.201.153]
4 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms nth-bb-b-so-210-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.197]
5 15 ms 12 ms 11 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms tele-ic-2-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.86]
7 28 ms 14 ms 13 ms ntl-gw.telecomplete.net [213.160.97.41]
8 185 ms 199 ms 200 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
9 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
10 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Trace complete.
Telecomplete = :thumbsdown:
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 23 ms 2 ms 2 ms 10.1.2.1
2 13 ms 2 ms 11 ms 10.1.1.1
3 26 ms 16 ms 15 ms thus2-hg3.ealing.broadband.bt.net [217.32.137.202]
4 26 ms 17 ms 37 ms 217.32.137.162
5 * 27 ms 17 ms 217.32.137.238
6 28 ms 16 ms 17 ms park-inside-1-g3-0-0-s193.router.demon.net [194.159.246.66]
7 28 ms 17 ms 17 ms 194.70.98.30
8 32 ms 18 ms 18 ms linx1.telecomplete.net [195.66.224.139]
9 * * 37 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
10 37 ms * 39 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
11 37 ms 28 ms 27 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
This is off my wireless LAN at home, so the first two hops are before I even leave my house.
Looks good though based on this one off, non stress test, early afternoon, small packet sized trace. ;-)
QuoteOriginally posted by Norm@Apr 8 2004, 11:15 PM
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Router [192.168.168.230]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 31 ms 35 ms 32 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Trace complete. <_<
change your firewall chief.
Microsoft Windows XP [versie 5.1.2600]
© Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Dhr. Klok>cd \
C:\>tracert 193.110.88.20
Bezig met het traceren van de route naar homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
via maximaal 30 hops:
1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 12 ms 10 ms 13 ms 195.190.241.248
3 18 ms 27 ms 17 ms iawxsrt-pbw-bb13a.wxs.nl [195.121.255.193]
4 18 ms 17 ms 17 ms iawxsrt-m6-bb14a.wxs.nl [195.121.0.149]
5 28 ms 25 ms 25 ms amsix1.telecomplete.net [195.69.144.178]
6 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
7 38 ms 35 ms 42 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
8 36 ms 35 ms 35 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
De trace is voltooid.
C:\>
seems we may have a couple peeps on a provider who peers with telecomplete over a dodgy connection..... would need more traces or better still a few hours of "ping plotter" to see.
Seems better for the most part, great.
Squonk - you seemed to pick some lag up right there on your provider's network.
Smite - on a good night your gonna blaze, only 7 hops...
Tealeaf - what goes on with your connection?
My trace is below, seems it came in over the other route to you lot...... technically Its only 5 hops for me! as those first two are kit on my home LAN :D
C:\>tracert 193.110.88.20
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms plug
2 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms host-83-146-2-201.bulldogdsl.com [83.146.2.201]
3 16 ms 18 ms 17 ms host-212-158-192-228.bulldogdsl.com [212.158.192.228]
4 18 ms 18 ms 17 ms host-83-146-17-34.bulldogdsl.com [83.146.17.34]
5 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 195.47.243.30
6 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms cwrt1.crosswired.co.uk [193.110.88.1]
7 30 ms 30 ms 31 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Actually only 6
my first one is the router ;)
QuoteOriginally posted by smite@Apr 10 2004, 02:01 PM
Actually only 6
my first one is the router ;)
:bitch: ;)
(http://www.smitethee.co.uk/stuff/bitches.gif)
k again now homer and MH :P
Microsoft Windows XP [versie 5.1.2600]
© Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Dhr. Klok>cd \
C:\>tracert 193.110.88.20
Bezig met het traceren van de route naar homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
via maximaal 30 hops:
1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 195.190.241.248
3 24 ms 18 ms 17 ms iawxsrt-pbw-bb13a.wxs.nl [195.121.255.193]
4 18 ms 17 ms 16 ms iawxsrt-m6-bb14a.wxs.nl [195.121.0.149]
5 27 ms 26 ms 33 ms amsix1.telecomplete.net [195.69.144.178]
6 35 ms 34 ms 32 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
7 36 ms 35 ms 43 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.2
6]
8 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
De trace is voltooid.
C:\>tracert 193.110.88.27
Bezig met het traceren van de route naar 193.110.88.27 via maximaal 30 hops
1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 195.190.241.248
3 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms iawxsrt-pbw-bb13a.wxs.nl [195.121.255.193]
4 18 ms 17 ms 18 ms iawxsrt-m6-bb14a.wxs.nl [195.121.0.149]
5 28 ms 26 ms 26 ms amsix1.telecomplete.net [195.69.144.178]
6 36 ms 36 ms 35 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
7 35 ms 38 ms 37 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.2
6]
8 36 ms 37 ms 37 ms 193.110.88.27
De trace is voltooid.
C:\>
QuoteOriginally posted by Stryker@Apr 10 2004, 01:46 PM
seems we may have a couple peeps on a provider who peers with telecomplete over a dodgy connection..... would need more traces or better still a few hours of "ping plotter" to see.
Tealeaf - what goes on with your connection?
Nothing much is the real answer - nothing much in the way of speed anyway. I get fairly regular lag and spikes atm. Probably because I am on a cheapo ISP atm cos I am using over 300 hours per month dial up :blink:
Here's this afternoon's trace:
1 39 ms 38 ms 38 ms srv1.lcst.uk.mediaWays.net [62.55.80.78]
2 39 ms 38 ms 37 ms rmws-lcst-uk01-fe-0-0-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [62.55.80.65]
3 40 ms 40 ms 41 ms rmwc-milt-uk01-so-0-1-1-0.nw.mediaways.net [62.55.80.109]
4 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms rmwc-lond-uk01-pos-4-6.nw.mediaways.net [62.55.80.149]
5 48 ms 49 ms 48 ms rmws-lond-uk01-ge-0-3-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [195.71.254.5]
6 53 ms 49 ms 50 ms linx1.telecomplete.net [195.66.224.139]
7 61 ms 58 ms 57 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
8 65 ms 70 ms 66 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
9 64 ms 63 ms 61 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Btw, the r1 hop on telecomplete is a real bugger - it messes with connection speed big time. Check Oldie's above trace for example :(
TL.
Try it without ZoneAlarm. It slaughtered my gaming.
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke@Apr 10 2004, 04:03 PM
Try it without ZoneAlarm. It slaughtered my gaming.
So what is suggested to replace ZoneAlarm Pro when I am on my multi-hour sessions? Remember I am on an ISDN dial up and not behind a router or other hardware firewall. My PC currently has 2 connections to the outside world:
During work hours it is part of a network (based at my home) and all network internet connections go via a Cisco 2503 ISDN router. The config for the router limits the hours the router dial up to normal work hours (to avoid racking up massive connection bills) and is limited to 64kbps.
Outside of work hours my PC also has a PCI ISDN card and dials up direct using 64 or 128kbps as needed for downloads, browsing or gaming etc.
The work connection I am fairly happy to run without ZAP because of the router config, but what should replace ZAP on the direct dial ups? Or should I just go and buy another router?
TL.
I've reverted back to the firewall in Norton Internet Security 2004 which is having no perceptable effect on my gaming connection.
This is with Zone Alarm on.
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 7 ms 9 ms 7 ms 10.9.192.1
2 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms gsr01-az.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.64.33]
3 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms tele1-azt-pos.telewest.net [194.117.136.2]
4 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms telewest-gw.telecomplete.net [213.160.97.45]
5 19 ms 20 ms 20 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
6 19 ms 21 ms 21 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
7 19 ms 22 ms 20 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Trace complete.
And Off
Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.9.192.1
2 9 ms 7 ms 8 ms gsr01-az.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.64.33]
3 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms tele1-azt-pos.telewest.net [194.117.136.2]
4 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms telewest-gw.telecomplete.net [213.160.97.45]
5 21 ms 18 ms 21 ms r1.tcw.telecomplete.net [193.0.255.230]
6 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms netserve-gw.cust.telecomplete.net [213.160.121.26]
7 19 ms 20 ms 21 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Trace complete.
I seem to take a hit at Telecomplete like others do but its nothing major.
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf+Apr 10 2004, 03:41 PM-->
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