QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@May 22 2004, 10:15 AM
he could also be completely barking :lmfao: :lmfao: TL.
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke+May 22 2004, 04:16 PM--> | QUOTE (OldBloke @ May 22 2004, 04:16 PM) | QuoteOriginally posted by smite@May 22 2004, 09:39 AM
I agree with Smite. I think we should consider throwing him out.
Adding to Smite pile of worries is the question he asked me the other day on MSN - "if I applied for Charlie do you think I would get in?". I politely declined to comment saying that I could not possibly speak for other admins as there are many and they each have their own opinion. I just didn't mention that they all felt the same way at the moment :P
I think throwing him out for being an irritant is a wee bit harsh, but maybe hosing him down first would be a good idea.
TL.
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jun 20 2004, 03:35 PM
Adding to Smite pile of worries is the question he asked me the other day on MSN - "if I applied for Charlie do you think I would get in?". I politely declined to comment saying that I could not possibly speak for other admins as there are many and they each have their own opinion. I just didn't mention that they all felt the same way at the moment :P
I think throwing him out for being an irritant is a wee bit harsh, but maybe hosing him down first would be a good idea.
TL. With a bat?
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jun 20 2004, 03:35 PM
I think throwing him out for being an irritant is a wee bit harsh, but maybe hosing him down first would be a good idea.
TL. I guess this involves benny in some way ... 8)
QuoteOriginally posted by Sadako@Jun 20 2004, 03:31 PM
I agree with Smite. I think we should consider throwing him out. Sorry but I am with Sadako and Smite on this one. I had to pull him up recently about posting about pirated software in the public part of the forum and his response was "opps did I do it again." He is not the sort of person who represents dMw in any way. I get the feeling that that is why cigs got rid of him although I haven't asked them. I had to sit next to him at the last lan and when i was sat at my pc he did nothing but annoy me.
OK, so we have a list of gripes for me and OB to attend to. Please put them here in writing so that we can consider how to proceed. Demoting is a big step and I am not sure we are ready to take it, but OB and I will discuss the options once we have a list of 'complaints' to go back to him with,
TL.
No way should he be thrown out.
I suggest you all re-read the posts in this section (some very good points made by BB) and hopefully we can all agree to educate and coach him into being a better, more mainstream member. Let's all make a real effort to concentrate on feeding him constructive feedback instead of snide remarks (me included).
My 2c
I would have to agree with OldBloke, chucking him out is way too harsh. He is by no means the only person who has had his posts to Movies and Games forums dumped into Compost Corner, and what is or isn't OK is often a matter of personal opinion. I've even inadvertently posted a dodgy link before myself (although I think I deleted it before anyone else read it :whistle: )
As to his moronic posts I'd suggest it would be best to just ignore anything he authors. I don't read a few threads due to subject matter and/or author and I'm quite sure I'm not on some peoples chosen reading list myself.
His antics on the servers are a bit more worrying but as and when I've seen him there he does seem to be able to reign himself in.
We had a long debate about setting a minimum age for the clan and I guess this is the result of being an open and inclusive community ?
The reason for me suggesting to kick him might seem harsh but it was a way of getting the discussion on its way and hopefully make many to participate in it.
GhostMjr needs a babysitter. He constantly annoys me with his spamming replies to our forums. If you compare to DA (in his good old days) I think he is in the same league and then some. I wouldn't mind if he sometimes made some sense or had some relevance in his posts. That is what bugs me. This I can live with BUT when he goes on other forums and servers and spams away I feel really akward carrying the same tag as he does. On the CoFR FR25 server he has on more than one occasion made a fool out of himself and in turn us. If you decide to let him stay I suggest the following.
1. Send him a PM and explain his wrong doings.
2. Write a guideline in the Bravo section dealing with conduct and Bravo members relation to TCS.
3. Appoint a babysitter that can stand him long enough. <--- that is NOT me. <_<
4. Pray that he gets the message ...
QuoteOriginally posted by Sadako@Jun 21 2004, 07:22 AM
1. Send him a PM and explain his wrong doings.
2. Write a guideline in the Bravo section dealing with conduct and Bravo members relation to TCS.
3. Appoint a babysitter that can stand him long enough. <--- that is NOT me. <_<
4. Pray that he gets the message ... That's why I asked for a concise list of points for me to consider drafting into a PM. My earlier posts tried, maybe too diplomatically, to indicate that throwing him out of Bravo was not really an option at this stage. I asked for the concise list of points as it means that I do not have to edit and precis the previous posts - and it also gives a second chance to those who have commented to remove the emotional impact of some of the statements. Posts minus emotion leaves something I can work on in a PM. As I said, precis your problems, post them here - one liners or similar please, and I will then try to word something appropriate. OB, I'll cc you to discuss before anything goes out. TL.
Two penn'orth coming up.
He's a harmless idiot. Ignore him. If it wasn't him it would be someone else that gets up ones nose. Given that the policy of 'come on in, grab a tag' has swelled our ranks immensely, maybe we should be more picky about who we let in. Although my irritation with the guy ranks along Smite's, I don't think he's the worst. <_<
Perhaps we ought to go back to selecting people we like, rather than inviting applicants willy nilly. On reflection, if he's the worst, then we've been lucky. The bigger a community is, the bigger the chance of there being dickheads in it.
Mmm, three penn'orth.
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jun 21 2004, 07:32 AM
That's why I asked for a concise list of points for me to consider drafting into a PM. Realise that when you are wearing the dMw tag your actions will reflect upon the entire community. Comments regarding rules in TCS should be left to admins. That is what they are there for. Learn the TCS rules and ethos. If you are unsure ask. There are players within dMw that have played PCS/TCS for more than 3 years now. Appreciate their knowledge. Because you can post a comment in the forum doesn't mean you have to. Friendly banter is appreciated but relevant comments are more appreciated.
Learn the rules we play by on our servers and stick to them.
I was drafting a reply in word when I went back to the forum for quotes etc I noticed Sadako had posted and he seems to have summed up all I was going to say.
(See Mats post above gfk’s)
I don’t post very often as I too have a problem with spelling, grammar, wording things,etc.
so I only post when I really think I have something to say .. This could work for Mjr too.
I would just like to say I too agree with Sadako/Smite/Ron/Ghost regarding mjr’s behaviour on the forum and servers,
not just the hook but all servers he play’s on wearing the dMw tag.
I do feel Ron as some good points.
If we are not that picky on who we give the tag too, we are going to get some rouges.
So we either be more selective or be more prepared to throw the odd one out now and again,
if they don’t quite get to grips with TCS and what wearing the dMw tag means.
I always wear my tag with pride and act in the correct manner when playing on servers or visiting forums.
This is what iam sure some of them just don’t get (mjr is one of them, but iam sure he's not alone)
my 2p
Thank you for the input. I will draft a PM to GhostMjr when i get back home tonight.
TL.
1. Don't post just because you can.
2. Don't post just because you can.
3. If unsure about posting Refer to 1 and 2.
4. If you are going to advise somone in the rules of TCS make sure you know them first.
5. Do not come onto a server and demand map changes.
6. Do not bring the dMw tag into disrepute in another forum or server by flaming/TW/TKing.
7. Don't wear a pen around your neck you look a nob.
QuoteOriginally posted by smite@Jun 21 2004, 04:19 PM
1. Don't post just because you can.
2. Don't post just because you can.
3. If unsure about posting Refer to 1 and 2.
4. If you are going to advise somone in the rules of TCS make sure you know them first.
5. Do not come onto a server and demand map changes.
6. Do not bring the dMw tag into disrepute in another forum or server by flaming/TW/TKing.
7. Don't wear a pen around your neck you look a nob. Mmmm, 1 and 2 are the tricky ones.
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman+Jun 21 2004, 07:35 PM--> | QUOTE (Doorman @ Jun 21 2004, 07:35 PM) |
PM sent. TL. QuoteDear GhostMjr
The Admins have been discussing a number of issues that have occurred recently which have had an impact in some way upon dMw in a less than positive way. Several members of Alpha or Bravo were mentioned and your name was amongst them. The details of the discussions are private, but can I take this opportunity to remind you of the following:
- Please realise that when you are known as a dMw member or are wearing the dMw tag that your actions will reflect upon our entire community. So when you post in another forum, play on another server, or just kick around in irc, your behaviour and attitude towards others should always be exemplary, particularly when the dMw wings are attached to your name. Far more people than you realise know of dMw and the information and feedback we receive from other clans or admins comes from far and wide. When you TW or TK someone on another server because they were ticking you off you'd be amazed at just how often the story gets passed back to us! Your actions have a direct impact upon dMw's reputation!
- TCS grew out of PCS and the community has a core of players that have played this style of CS for over 3 years now. Healthy debate is always encouraged, hence we have active TCS section on the forums, but beware of posting up answers to TCS questions where you yourself do not fully understand TCS yet.
- Our forums see well over 100 new posts every single day. Many of the forum topics are not seen by Alpha or Bravo Company members as they are private to Charlie, Delta, Admins, TCS Admins, match squads etc. So as a member of Bravo you see about half the forum topics that are there. So for a dedicated Charlie Company member or Admin you can imagine that it can take some considerable time to read through all of the posts on the forums each day. Now ask yourself how other dMw members feel when they come across one of your regular nightly sessions of 'posting a reply to every single topic on the forum'. There have been some occassions when substantial numbers of replies have been posted, almost none of which made any positive contribution to the thread. Friendly banter is good but relevant comments are appreciated more, so don't post a reply or comment *just* because you can!
Setting my Clan Leader hat to one side for a moment I would like to make a personal comment. The other day you contacted me via MSN for help with your computer. I know that you publicly thanked me for my time on the forums and I appreciate that, but you should also know that my initial response when you contacted me was that you were bloody rude! You just delivered a curt message to me with a 'demand' to fix *your* problem. As it happens I was in the middle of some client work, but you never bothered to say hi, ask if I was busy or would mind sparing the time, you never even said thanks until the forum post afterwards! So my advice to you is to try to think a little more about how others perceive your actions - how would you feel if those things were done/said/written to or about you? Go work on those interpersonal skills!
I know this PM may come as a bit of a shock to you, but please take it in the right spirit. The above comments are not general knowledge outside the admins and will remain private. But they are serious comments we urge you to consider. We want to encourage positive participation in the community, but sometimes it seems you need to just hold yourself in check a little ;)
See you on the servers.
TL.
cc Oldbloke[/b]
His reply. TL. QuoteOriginally posted by GhostMjr
After your email i was slightly shocked! To begin with i was annoyed with my hdd and didn't meant to offend you. I find it rather strange that you have accused me of the incident on the cofr servers when you have not actually contated me to hear my side of the story! If you were in my position I think you would have permently banned the NUMPTY clan and I find this almost untrue that I seem to have been given the sole blame! I don’t recall having any email or pm and am surprised to find I am the convict when I was the one being put off and vc spam which was extremely rude! As no actal dmw members were actually there I think this discussion should be deleted and a formal apology made to myself! Obviously the story has been extrapolated and I do not like being the blame for something I was the sole victim of!
Posting on the forum I think is great and I enjoy it! I don’t know how the admins came to the conclusion as I am a spammer but this is not what I intend to do! I intend to make a contribution to the clan not to spam! If they don’t like my spam as they so put it mayb they shouldn’t be in dmw as looking through the forums isn’t a chore and I am making it longer but an active community!
The TCS section ok might be for professional talk but I think ppl can make contributions so it can adapt not stay in the same format and fall apart!
I await your reply!
Scott Fergusson
Aka GM
And my response. TL. QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf+--> | QUOTE (TeaLeaf) | QuoteOriginally posted by GhostMjr+-->| QUOTE (GhostMjr) | After your email i was slightly shocked![/b]Thanks for your reply Scott and I'm sorry the email shocked you. I think I should clarify a few things and have tried to break up the individual comments for ease of reading!
QuoteOriginally posted by GhostMjr
To begin with i was annoyed with my hdd and didn't meant to offend you. No problem, it is not something I hold as a grudge (I am not like that), I was just using it as an example of how you can sometimes come across to other people. If it is of interest, I have had similar accusations thrown at me in the past and it hasn't killed me yet ;)
QuoteOriginally posted by GhostMjr
I find it rather strange that you have accused me of the incident on the cofr servers when you have not actually contated me to hear my side of the story! If you were in my position I think you would have permently banned the NUMPTY clan and I find this almost untrue that I seem to have been given the sole blame! I don’t recall having any email or pm and am surprised to find I am the convict when I was the one being put off and vc spam which was extremely rude! As no actal dmw members were actually there I think this discussion should be deleted and a formal apology made to myself! Obviously the story has been extrapolated and I do not like being the blame for something I was the sole victim of! We haven't actually accused you of anything specific - we never mentioned the CoFR incident. If you feel the CoFR incident is relevant to the comments we made then I am sure you will reflect further upon this. As our comments were deliberately generic we did not apportion blame (if any) to anyone and certainly not to you 'solely'. Had we wished to make any event-specific comments then then yes we would have undertaken further investigation and would have discussed the specifics with those individuals concerned. For the moment we felt a quiet word was sufficient based upon our collective experience. As for deleting discussions, I admit to being confused - to which discussions are you referring? :unsure: (is there a specific url?)
QuoteOriginally posted by GhostMjr
Posting on the forum I think is great and I enjoy it! I don’t know how the admins came to the conclusion as I am a spammer but this is not what I intend to do! I intend to make a contribution to the clan not to spam! Nobody concluded that that you were a spammer. However we did mention that sometimes you seem to post a reply to practically every thread on the forum, often witout actually saying anything. You are not the first person we have had to mention this to and I guarantee you won't be the last! We even posted some guidelines (http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3327) to try to regulate it! We know that there is always going to be a certain amount of 'banter', but we try to make sure that the entire forum does not become littered with 'quantity', we prefer 'quality'. When you post something ask yourself if it passes the 'quantity' or quality' test. As an aside, the first person we had to have a word with about this type of posting behaviour is now a dMw Admin!
My hat is doffed to you with the greatest of respect. I can safely say I would not have handled that with even a hundredth of the restraint you have displayed.
Can I have the biggest steak now? :whistle:
Well worded TL in the first and second PM.
I would not have been able to reply in the calm manner you did so hats off.
I really don't want to comment on his reply.... but i am glad that you took this on as i really don't have the control to reply to his return PM.
Well done and nicely put.
Still have big bat at the ready if ya need me.
Gj TL
:worship:
After reading his reply,it seems to me we may be better off banging our heads on a brick wall
Let's just say that at this point he has not done a Charlie application any favours.
TL.
/me doffs hat towards TL.
Good Job, like the others his reply annoyed me more and I'm sorry to say his reply only goes to reinforce my belief that he should go.
Like Smite I'm standing by with a bat. Now where did i put that hammer and nails.....
Nice words TL
That would have taken me most of the night to slip a post like that together :thumbsup:
btw ....Anyone else get the feeling Major's Dad wrote that ;)
Poor sod. I'm sure he can put together a coherent post on his own when he wants to ;) .
I think this sort of thing is going to become more common as the 'community grows' and we're going to be sending out more messages like this in the future.
On a more delecate note, and I may well get a verbal kicking for this, but I'm sure the chap doesn't do any of this to upset us. In fact I see nothing to suggest he has a nasty side about him at all. So I'm a little disappionted about the fairly vicious stuff appearing in this thread. We've met him at the LAN and as far as I'm concerned he was polite and pleasant chap. This is an Admin's forum and perhapse we should be a little more constructive about these issues. As the community grows we collectively take on a greater responsibilty as Admins. I'm sure TL had better things to do than write those two messages and his dialogue with Ghostmjr may still not yet be over. We might take aleaf out of his book when it comes to dealing with issues like this?
:blink: Now that sounded a whole lot more pompus than I planned but hopefully you'll get my point......no?
I'll get my coat
I wanted to say that. Thanks Smilo.
Yup, nicely put m8.
Pompous git! Quite right though.
To be honest I laughed at most of the suggestions about baseball bats, sympathise with everyones exasperation and can see the arguements for kicking him out.
The thought only struck me after I had re-read the whole thread a few times. So I certainly don't take the moral high ground and if there's any guilt to be had I'm in there with everyone else.
Still doesn't stop me being a pompous git though :eyebrow:
I agree Smilo.
If it helps anyone (and continuing the baseball bat analogy), I tend to construct posts like the GhostMjr one on the basis that there is no point in using the post itself as a baseball bat.
If you attack someone and leave them no room for manoeuvre then they will feel backed into a corner and come out swinging at you. So you may as well tone it down, exclude anything that can be seen as overly personal, include a little bit of friendly humour/empathy or hope (to provide some light relief for them when reading it) and allow them some room to manouvre at their end when they read it. If they feel they are not being pinned down and executed by the post then they are less likely to react in an aggressive fashion. The nice thing is that by toning the post down and avoiding any too personal comments (trying to be generic) then usually the message still gets through, but the nasty reaction doesn't come back, which is why I suspect I have not yet had reply back from GhostMjr (and I know he has read my reply). I reckon the message has hit home.
My hope is that it helps him develop his interpersonal skills, the lack of which I believe is actually the bit that is ticking people off. When you meet him in person he is very shy and timid. Online he does not feel so inhibited or embarrassed as he does not have to look you in the eye at the same time, so online he tends to be a very enthusiastic young lad who sometimes forgets in his excitement how other people might react to some of the things he does. Somewhat like I was when I was his age. It took me a few encounters with posts like my above post to realise that my own enthusiasm crapped all over my ability to read other peoples feelings - he has the same problem and it will go away as he matures. As Smilo said, there's nothing malicious about him which is why I tried to indicate early in the thread that kicking him out of Bravo was not really an option.
I just hope that he doesn't over-react to my PMs and pull out of Bravo - if he does it will only be because I didn't leave him enough room for manoeuvre - I just hope I did leave him the room.........
TL.
I luv sicolgy. :)
You left him plenty room. If he does pull out it will be because he doesn't have the interpersonal skills to see what has been offered.
You did a fine job TL - don't blame yourself for someone elses lack of maturity (and I don't mean that in a nasty way about GhostMjr)
Looks like everything is fine and dandy. TL. QuoteOriginally posted by Messenger Conversation
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
hi paul r u busy?
Tealeaf says:
no, go ahead!
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
gdgd
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
i hope we r friends after the disagreement
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
and i only post alot not to spam but to keep active as i really love the clan
Tealeaf says:
we hold no grudges and we don't class it as a disagreement
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
ok cool
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
but is it ok then if i post alot but only when relvent or shall i post only on topics i can trully give feedback
Tealeaf says:
we have no problem with posting replies, so long as the majority of them add value. But *eveyrone* posts some drivel now and then, me included
Tealeaf says:
and that's fine, as long as it doesn't become the majority
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
ok fine so i will only post when it is not drivel eg cheers or thanks notes
Tealeaf says:
np
Tealeaf says:
catch you on the hook later - after the match
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
o rite u guys got a match on
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
gd l
Tealeaf says:
Nope but England have
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
o football
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
sorry i thought the guys were playing a match lol
Tealeaf says:
no way!
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
lol we all like a beer with football aye!
Tealeaf says:
catch ya l8r
(ap)Capt.Scotty(ap)--=[dMw]=-GhostMjr(li)-i'm a prefect lol says:
ok cya paul
Group hug! :)
Ahhhh.......
But seriously Good Job Tl with that. Having reread the thread I may have been a bit hasty with some of my comments but he was starting to get on my nerves and I haven't quite got the saintly patience that you appear to have.
Sorry had to post this thought it was a belter.... QuoteGhostMjr - "Hello im new here" six pack
lmao remeber when barney says to homer i have a six pack and he pulls our a six pack of duff! Cheers for the post zok make me laugh! Welcome six pack to our nutty community! ...select the "find all posts by this member" it makes a nice read :D
He seems to be drifting back towards the "I'll respond to everything with inane comments" routine <_<
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Aug 7 2004, 06:57 PM
He seems to be drifting back towards the "I'll respond to everything with inane comments" routine <_< Yeah. And to top it all, Duvel's back and so's GFK. <_<
Maybe we should admit our mistakes and sack a few people?
[thinks] I post mainly drivel[/thinks]
Er scratch that idea.
Seriously I think we have aquired a bit of a problem over the last six months or so. Either we accept it as a natural consequence of a growing community,
sack a few people
or rack up the forum moderating and delete anything that is mindless waffle in our respective forums? Which gets my vote.
QuoteOriginally posted by smilodon@Aug 8 2004, 01:07 AM
or rack up the forum moderating and delete anything that is mindless waffle in our respective forums? Which gets my vote. That would only leave post by you and TeaLeaf!............ :whistle:
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman+Aug 10 2004, 08:14 AM--> | QUOTE (Doorman @ Aug 10 2004, 08:14 AM) |
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall+Aug 10 2004, 08:19 AM--> | QUOTE (BlueBall @ Aug 10 2004, 08:19 AM) | QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Aug 10 2004, 08:14 AM
OK You've talked me into agreeing with you :devil: ;)
Shit he's back:
(http://www.sutherlandweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dmw/images/GhostMjr.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke@Aug 7 2004, 08:10 PM
Yeah. And to top it all, Duvel's back and so's GFK. No I'm not. Afk during the week and a lot of weekends too.
QuoteOriginally posted by Gh0st Face Killah+Aug 13 2004, 05:51 PM--> | QUOTE (Gh0st Face Killah @ Aug 13 2004, 05:51 PM) |
Thanks for the image. I have sent him this email. TL. QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf
GhostMjr
Just have a careful think about how many of these posts were worthwhile and what the forums would be like if everyone posted like you did. You have no idea how annoying it is to other members. I have already been asked to have a quiet word with you once, this is the second time and I don't want this PM to become a quarterly event, ok?
TL.
cc Oldbloke
(http://www.sutherlandweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dmw/images/GhostMjr.jpg)
It's a shame DA spoilt a clean card!
I blame me too :)
GhostMjr replied and I responded. Me response email is below, it includes his reply to me. To be fair to him I should have gone through the list of posts before PMing him, but I didn't. In my opinion most of the posts were ok and the sort of thing we would do ourselves, so I feel a little bad about coming down heavy-handed on him, so as I said in my PM reply to GhostMjr, I would like us to consider the individual posts not just the volume of them. If volume posting were a sin I would have been kicked out and banned many moons ago :blush: Fortunately when I did look through the postings there were a few I could throw back at him for him to reconsider too. Let's leave it here for the timebeing and monitor quality please. Thnaks peeps. TL. QuoteMessage Forwarded From TeaLeaf
QuoteSorry was just catching up on posts that i felt i could express an opinion! I thought they were all relevant tho! I have tried as i hope you have noticed to not post irelevantly anymore and have always read posts before replying and deciding if i can make a relevant contribution!
O to note paul i tried to post earlier and this appeared:
CGI Error
The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:
But it still posted my reply :blink:
GM I'll be honest with you, I haven't personally gone through all of your recent postings. I therefore cannot say that all your posts were unjustified, but just be aware that over-posting is a problem in a community of our size, as is posting in unintelligible language - you may want to pay attention to the latter as this does seem to happen with some of your postings as evidenced by the "are you related to Sheepy" comments!
I will pass your comments back to the Admin concerned and ask him to reconsider. While he considers my request to reconsider, here are 3 postings that caught my eye from that list that I would like you to consider.
Many thanks.
TL.
QuoteOriginally posted by Examples
http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5124&hl= (http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5124&hl=)
The reason you don't get it is because you never bothered to look at the posting date. You are several months late and therefore the post is irrelevant.
http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showt...=20&#entry65191 (http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7218&st=20&#entry65191)
Can you make sense of this reply? I couldn't.
http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showt...t=0&#entry65187 (http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7213&st=0&#entry65187)
"I got more lol" - what does this mean? The rest of the comment is also pretty unnecesary. The thread referred to zip files and you were suggesting he try unzipping a zip file with a rar package? Either way the language used makes your reply almost unintelligible. Help is welcomed, but when it is delivered like this it is unhelpful as nobody has a clue what you meant.
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Yawn. Yet more correspeondence. TL. QuoteMessage Forwarded From TeaLeaf
QuoteI cannot address the way i approach things as that is how i do approach them in my own way as we all do! Also I understand the posts so i don't see why anyone cannot read them! If i am not allowed to post replies in bulk them mayb i will hardly post like most of our community! I enjoy being part of the clan but i feel the need to express myself in posts! If this is not liked then i may hardly post and just read the forums! then i will be considered for posting too little! I don't c why i can be punished for supposibly spamming when lots of ppl do look at doris and duvel for instance! Many of the higher of the clan do take their time to read through posts but i am much younger than them and so do not have the maturity of older adults!
GM
"I understand it why don't you?"
As someone fluent in Swahili I could argue the same as you are - I understand a post made in Swahili, ergo you must too? See the problem?
It would probably help matters hugely if you posted in proper english with accompanying punctuation. We might then have a clue what you were on about when some of your post meaning goes 'AWOL'.
We are neither banning you from posting nor punishing you, just reminding you of the obligation you have to the community. As for others who might be acting in a similar way I would remind you that like you, we deal with each individual on a private one-to-one basis. It would therefore be inappropriate for me to comment on any of the other discussions we have had, are having or will have in the future.
As for the maturity part, yes that may be part of the problem. The community is generally mature - this is why it is so successful. It is therefore the standard that we expect from all of our members. We expect members to read the threads to which they choose to reply and to post replies that can be read and understood within the context of the thread.
Ada ya mja hunena mungwana ni kitendoÃ. (Public opinion maintains, a gentleman is judged by his actions)
As an official 'old fart' I have learnt to take constructive criticism both often and in volume. So don't get too upset or defensive in this correspondence. It's not a witch hunt, just a friendly word to the wise.
Baada ya faraja. (After a hardship comes relief)
Enjoy!
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Cheers TL I'll try to behave now ;)
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