Wonder if anyone can help. I've put my Inno3d geforce4 ti4200 in my pc tonight, but now when i play any games as soon as it goes into any 3d scens it crashes. Here's what i've tried allready. :cry:
1. Tried diffrent detonator drivers 40.41 and 41.03.
2. Both d3d and opengl modes do EXACTLY the same.
3. Reinstalled cs and its still same.
4. Prayed to the mighty god Rah to rain a plague of frogs on Sadako. :cry:
Ok maybe the last one wont help, but it'll make me laugh.
Try the WHQL drivers first. If it still crashes - take the card back.
QuotePrayed to the mighty god Rah to rain a plague of frogs on Sadako. :cry:
Ok maybe the last one wont help, but it'll make me laugh.
Ive found that going onto MH with a different name and saying "Die Sadako" quite a lot gets him going :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Run away from the 40.xx drivers for they are filled with evil pixies and poo.
Try the 30.82 drivers, making sure you use either the XP version or the 98/ME version, dependent obvioulsy on your OS. These are the current release drivers.
If that doesn't work go right back to the 28.32 drivers which are rock solid.
If you still can't get it running then take Old Blokes advise and return it.
And WHQL would be what exactly?
QuoteAnd WHQL would be what exactly?
Windows Hardware Quality Labs certified.
Old Bloke appears to be on the server, so I'll take the liberty of answering for him.
Short Answer: WHQL stands for Windows Hardware Quality Labs. WHQL drivers are basic drivers guaranteed to work with Windows. If you use them and they still don't work then the card is buggered.
Long answer: Their blurb states ......
QuoteMicrosoft offers the Windows Logo Program for Hardware to help customers identify systems and peripherals that meet a baseline definition of platform features and quality goals. These features and goals help provide a good Windows experience for the end user. System and peripheral manufacturers whose products pass Windows logo testing can license the Windows Logo for use on product packaging, advertising, collateral, and other marketing materials for all systems and components that pass compliance testing.
Which translates to " Windows is crap, and therefore in order to allow any kind of consistent performance from systems and hardware running said crap operating system, Microsoft asks that hardware vendors provide drivers that are guaranteed to work with their bug ridden excuse for an operating system. Granted most of the advanced functionality of the hardware will be lost in the process, and as a result the hardware vendor will look like a crap manufacturer, which they are not.
But more importantly Windows will not crash and therefore Microsoft will look like they are quality, which they are not."
Ah not on the server at all then...... :oops:
Right mate, the way to sort this not Detonator drivers! They are bollox, always try the latest drivers made by the card manufacturer. So Inno3Ds latest version of the nVIDIA drivers should do it. Detonator always fails for me I have a Creative card. The windows one fails too as it is just the Detonators again
Failing that new card for you!
Well Albert i hope your right. I'm practically pulling my hair out here trying to get this little f'ker to work. I've tried the 30.82 drivers which still do exactly the same, i've uninstalled all others drivers and let windows install its own and still exactly the same. I've changed all setting in Bios to their reverse (if its on turn it off, if its big make it small) and still its the same.
P.S Any news on that plague of frogs yet?
Nah forget the BIOS just defaults, just get rid of all the drivers and uninstall the card. after downloading the manufacturer drivers of cuorse then install them. If it doesn't work then either you have an on board card active, thre is a bug so check the manufacturers FAQs or the card is shafted. But if the card is picked up by windows it is unlikely to be broke.
Take it to mates house test on there pc if works card ok if not card f00ked!!!!
A few more things you could try.....
Turn off your virus software and try running a 3D game. This is a really wild long shot but might work.
Make sure you have no IRQ conflicts. Do't put any PCI card into the slot right next to the AGP slot as this often leads to conflicts. The only apparent conflict you can have is with the IRQ Holder for PCI Steering device which will always use the same IRQ as the GeForce. If you have an ISA devices just change the slot IRQ in windows system manager.
Are your Mobo drivers (AGP, Via 4 in 1 etc) up to date.
There are a vast array of bios issues etc. If you can advise as to your CPU, Mobo, RAM and OS set up I might have a few more.
To be honest there are all sorts of things it might be, from AMD CPU conflicts to incorrect AGP aperture settings. Before you start down this road the advice to try the card in another PC or just ask for a replacement is the best you'll get. If the card works in the other PC or the replacement card gives the same problem then you'll have to try out the other options.
Good luck
By the way what did this card replace?
QuoteNeutron"]... By the way what did this card replace?
Etch-a-Sketch :biggrin:
What OS are you using ?
are you doing a clean install or over other manufacturers drivers from previous card?
If your using XP try this
http://www.guru3d.com/files/.........or (http://www.guru3d.com/files/.........or) try the forum - i found it useful for solving my prob.
This prog clears the conflict between 30xxx drivers which are in xp to the 40xx drivers - may work
What sort of crash is it?
Is it a "Send info to Micro$oft" crash, or the dreaded blue screen of death?
Any meaningful error messages?
Little update, the card replaces my Geforce 2 GTS which was working fine.
My pc:-
Amd 1800XP
Sblive
Soltek 75kav MB
380Mb ram
Usb Fujitsu modem
Usb mouse
Xp pro os.
I'm using no other cards in pc, i've tried the manafacturers own drivers that came with the card, which were just default nvidia ones. I've tried latest drivers from Inno3d site, i've removed all previous drivers possible before rebooting and reinstalling new ones.
Got no conflicts in Pc and as there's nothing called Irq holder for pci steering in device manager.
Later today its going round a mates house to be thrashed in numerous games where it'll no doubt work just fine. :cry:
Oh yeah btw when it crashes it just totally lokks up the PC, no blue screen, no error messages just a dead stop and any sound there was will be looping.
It does this within a second of any 3d graphics come on screen on all games/3d demos i've tried.
Best advice is as suggested try it in another PC and then send it back for a replacement. If the new card still falls over then try some fixes etc as suggested.
I'm not aware of any issues specific to the GF4 that wouldn't also be a problem with the GF2, so you can discount loads of BIOS tweaks etc. The two things that come to mind are power supply and AGP apperture size.
To run a GF4 especially with a power hungry Athlon CPU, needs a fair bit of juice. A 300w power pack would a be ideal, a 250w should work but you could be getting into trouble with a 230w pack.
The problem might be with your AGP apperture size (although this usually manifests as a perfromance problem). The KT133 boards sometimes have a problem with running in AGP 2x or 4x. There are tweaks that can be done to fix the problem. Try running the card with AGP1x enabled. If it works Ok then you've found your problem. This problem also existed with the GForce 2 GTS Ultra, so if that card ran OK it suggests the GF3 should too ??
Testing in another PC would be a good idea. Of course if you test in another Athlon 1800XP - Soltek mobo PC you might get the exact same problem?
Thats just the problem, my mate has the same MB and CPU just as me, but he uses win2k.
I got a 300w psu.
Set AGP Aperture to half of your fitted system memory. You have 380Mb so suggest you use Aperture of 128Mb (close enough).
Ensure that Video BIOS and Video RAM are NOT cached/shadowed in BIOS.
If you can set an option for AGP driving control in BIOS make sure it is set to "CC".
Get latest drivers for motherboard and use 30.82 drivers for Graphics card. Uninstall any existing Nvidia drivers using control panel. Delete all of the nv*.* files in your windows system folder. Delete the "HKLM/Software/NVIDIA Corporation" key in your registry. Reboot and let XP redetect the card. Use the 30.82 drivers which you have thoughtfully extracted to a folder on your hard disk :-)
If that doesn't work you may well have a faulty card.
QuoteSet AGP Aperture to half of your fitted system memory. You have 380Mb so suggest you use Aperture of 128Mb (close enough).
Ensure that Video BIOS and Video RAM are NOT cached/shadowed in BIOS.
If you can set an option for AGP driving control in BIOS make sure it is set to "CC".
Get latest drivers for motherboard and use 30.82 drivers for Graphics card. Uninstall any existing Nvidia drivers using control panel. Delete all of the nv*.* files in your windows system folder. Delete the "HKLM/Software/NVIDIA Corporation" key in your registry. Reboot and let XP redetect the card. Use the 30.82 drivers which you have thoughtfully extracted to a folder on your hard disk :-)
If that doesn't work you may well have a faulty card.
Couldn't have put it better myself :D
Well the card works fine in a mates PC who has exactly the same motherboard and cpu, only diffrence is he uses onboard sound, so i tried that but no change. He also uses win2k unlike my XP pro, so is it time for the win2k discs to some out do we think?
Oh ffs, the day just gets worse. Now my second Hard drive has decided that its never been formatted, despite me using it for the last 2 years and it containing all my CS stuff, my downloaded music, films and all my passwords. :x
But on a lighter note, the chafing in my boxers has gone now i have them on the right way round and not back to front. 8O
Think i'll save my money and not put owt on lottery today.
Just noticed that windows update has an updated driver foor Nvidia (30.87 as opposed to 30.82)
Send the bugger back and get one from //www.komplett.co.uk. A more well know make like Creative or Gainward e.g.
Gainward AGP GeForce4 Ti4200 64MB DDR, £112.05 which includes VAT and delivery.
Creative 3D Blaster GeForce4 Ti4200 64MB, £118.80 which includes VAT and delivery.
Where did you get the card you have and what was the price?
Your dilema is even getting me frustrated now, I hate faulty or tempremental hardware/ software, it's not right and shouldn't happen!
:o|:
QuoteJust noticed that windows update has an updated driver foor Nvidia (30.87 as opposed to 30.82)
Being a 'latest drivers' hound, my ears pricked up at this. So off I went helter skelter to Update. Nahda! Nothing! Zilch!. Went to Nvidia's site and 30.82 is the latest. Where'd you get that?
Right finally installed Win2k on my machine, only to remember that my D: drive (all my games) were missing. Funny thing is that it appears fine in dos, i can read it ok. Anyway, m'off to find a small 3d test routine.
This card cost me £119 which included Vat and delivery, and is also 128Mb unlike those u posted Albert.
QuoteQuoteJust noticed that windows update has an updated driver foor Nvidia (30.87 as opposed to 30.82)
Being a 'latest drivers' hound, my ears pricked up at this. So off I went helter skelter to Update. Nahda! Nothing! Zilch!. Went to Nvidia's site and 30.82 is the latest. Where'd you get that?[/b]
It is for WinXP. If you go to windowsupdate then it will appear as an option under driver updates.
QuoteBut on a lighter note, the chafing in my boxers has gone now i have them on the right way round and not back to front. 8O
ROTFLMAO - and it made my mother-in-law laugh heartily - she read it over my shoulder whilst I was guffawing 8O
GL with the system fix - you have my sympathy......
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QuoteQuoteQuoteJust noticed that windows update has an updated driver foor Nvidia (30.87 as opposed to 30.82)
Being a 'latest drivers' hound, my ears pricked up at this. So off I went helter skelter to Update. Nahda! Nothing! Zilch!. Went to Nvidia's site and 30.82 is the latest. Where'd you get that?[/b]
It is for WinXP. If you go to windowsupdate then it will appear as an option under driver updates.[/b]
This one?
(http://www.finnglish.co.uk/Update.gif)
I have to say that I've chickened out of downloading the nvidia driver update shown for me under the Windows Update option as I think that it is probably older than the one I am currently using. Pity they don't actually tell you the driver number before you download it.......
As for why it doesn't show up on BB's page I have no idea :( Sorry m8, can't help you there.....
TL. 8)
w00t there's progress in my problem, cs now gets into the game fine and i can run about for a while with no crash, BUT the mouse doesnt work. Now typing +mlook (to enable mouse) in console crashes the game immediatly the second i press enter. Anyone? I'm looking for the -noforcearmsacell or something like that for command line.
C:SierraCounter-Strikecstrike.exe -console -noipx -nointro +voice_dsound 1 -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel -full
Well there's progress again, now it takes about a minute to crash using those. :roll:
Anyone want to buy an Inno3d Ti 4200 Geforce4 128mb card? Only one careful owner. :lol:
Don't it just make you just glow inside when you read about ppl having major problems & yours are sorted (for now) :)
Keep your pecker up JB - its a conspiracy :lol:
QuoteWell there's progress again, now it takes about a minute to crash using those. :roll:
Anyone want to buy an Inno3d Ti 4200 Geforce4 128mb card? Only one careful owner. :lol:
Have you tried any of the nvidia tweaking tools? See if it makes a difference (can't make it worse). Additionally, I wonder if you have a heating or memory problem?
If you have XP why not do the old 'Remote Assistance' thing? Is that an option? :idea:
hey JB
i think Lionheart has a card for sale.....ooops !
QuoteJust noticed that windows update has an updated driver foor Nvidia (30.87 as opposed to 30.82)
Sorry to harp on about this but after trawling the internet and Googling away like a mad thing, I can only come up with
Nvidia 3D Stereo drivers 30.87. They are for those 3D glasses doohickies.
I haven't downloaded it coz my drivers are stable but it shows in the windows update site as below:
(http://www.mtuspeed.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/nvidia.jpg)
never, NEVER download driver updates from micro$haft. They will screw with your system and it'll never be the same again.
So.....is it working yet :?: