Dead Men Walking

In an attempt to please all of the people all of the time I am going to try an experiment.

Team selection has been a combo of skill and rotation. This was a decision of the clan some time ago. However, with our numbers almost doubled there is now scope to experiment with a 2-tier team selection policy. Note the use of the word 'experiment'.

I am going to introduce the concept of match 'squads'.

There will be two squads. In keeping with the Deadmen theme they will be known as Zombies and Ghosts.

The Zombies will consist of the 8 best players in the clan as voted by the clan themselves. Those left will form the Ghosts.

Both squads will elect a leader and deputy from within their ranks.

Ghosts will continue to play in Enemy Down with the fixtures being arranged by the Ghost Leader.

Zombies will represent the clan in ClanBase (it is not possible to have two teams within ED) and all cup/league competitions. The Zombie leader will arrange their fixtures.

Members can play for either squad but not to the exclusion of an available squad member.

Audience participation time:

All members must PM me with their 8 Zombie nominees. You must also specify if you wish to be considered for Zombie membership. The final 8 will be those members voted by the clan who are willing to stand. You may NOT vote for yourself. All votes will be treated as strictly private.

There will, inevitably, be lots of issues to be addressed and these will be dealt with as and when they arise.

Suggest you are not allowed to vote for yourself?

as long as you don't forget to vote for yourself 8O  it wont make a difference :lol:

I agree with Blue Ball, because some may have a lower estimation of their skill than is actually true, and wont vote for themselves.

Agreed. Good point.

I've amended the post above.

If you've already submitted your nominations and have included yourself then please re-submit.

Out of 25 clan members it's difficult to pick just 8 and the newer memebers (e.g. me) will not know what some of the less active players are like. So we can only include those whom we have played with.
Can I suggest another method?

We all pick out our top 15 and place them in order 1 to 15.

Then for every 1st place vote cast for a member, he gets 15 points right down to the 15th place member who will get 1 point. The total points acumulated are then added up after all the votes are cast and the top 8 become Zombies!

This way some of the players who only the older clan members know more about get a chance, otherwise the most regular players are going to get all the votes and a possible star might be missed out.

... and now it is time for double Jeopardy. The categories are, Potent Potables, A Petit Dejeuner, TheRapists, ...

Sheesh Albert!  :D  I had trouble picking 8 ppl. I think 15 ppl and ranking them is way too much to ask from all of us. I think OB will have enough work ahead of him with 24 PMs and 8 ppl in each message.

My five,

good idea albert. but a would have trouble with 15. top 6 would be better

Maybe this is still too complicated. It's all very well picking our top whatevers but if they're not available for matches where do you go from there? Perhaps we should utilise what is a good idea(registering your availability) coupled with picking the best possible team from that selection. We all know, or at least, reckon who are the best in this clan. This vote would probably throw up the same names. Anyone wanting to fight wars would have to fight for a place on that team. The rest of us(speaking for myself) would be happy with getting our jollies fighting as Ghosts. I think the 'Ghosts' concept is a first class idea.

Wouldn't want your job OB :(

(Picks up coat, switches on little torch and wanders off into the night)

Well to assist people like me who have memories shorter than...err, ummm,....err......I forget.  
Never mind.  Can someone post a full list of members please?  Then I'll make me choices.....

Thank you.

TL.  8)

From ED Ladder

Tutonic
Jonnyappleseed
Oldbloke
Frenzy
Sheepy
SecretSquirrel
Dogmeat
Fatbob
Stryker
Tealeaf
MAD_ness
Gandalf-LordofJelly
Donkeycheesegrater
Mistereggs
Radman
Blueball
Doorman
Armitage
Squonk
Sadako
Albert
Aga
FBG ..Flibber Meister alll round jessy :twisted:  :twisted:

If there are any missing please add but i think thats it

Is trip in  :wink:

TVM Smite.

TL.  8)

Please add FBG aka Flibber Meister to the list.  He hasn't registered with ED yet, but is a -=[dMw]=- member.

TL.  8)

QuoteFrom ED Ladder

Tutonic
Jonnyappleseed
Oldbloke
Frenzy
Sheepy
SecretSquirrel
Dogmeat
Fatbob
Stryker
Tealeaf
MAD_ness
Gandalf-LordofJelly
Donkeycheesegrater
Mistereggs
Radman
Blueball
Doorman
Armitage
Squonk
Sadako
Albert
Aga
FBG ..Flibber Meister alll round jessy :twisted: :twisted:

If there are any missing please add but i think thats it

Is trip in :wink:

Is it possible to get stats from Homer?

Mmm - the Homer stats would only show the top fraggers and someone like me who always dies first for the good of the team may get overlooked.

 :lol:

Sounds like a damn good idea Oldie.

My nominations are in....

/me slips everyone a tenner

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QuoteMmm - someone like me who always dies first for the good of the team may get overlooked. :lol:

Ahah, I have company now in the 'Always Killed First' section of the clan.  Welcome to my lonely little team Aga  :lol:  At least I know I won;t be talking to myself again on most rounds....

TL.  8)

QuoteSounds like a damn good idea Oldie.

My nominations are in....

/me slips everyone a tenner

8)

Bad news Tut, your cheque bounced.  Please send cash.  Oldie, hold those nominations until you get my OK will you?  :wink:

TL.  8)

QuoteIs it possible to get stats from Homer?

 :oops:  I feel like an ass now that I checked it.

3. Sadako
4. Frenzy
5. Albert
6. Smite
10. Armitage
12. DCG
13. JAS
15. Gandalf

Is it possible to get a list of who killed who and how much? I think I killed TL elventy billion times. ;)

If those are your votes then:

(A)  You need to PM them to Oldie not post them to the forum - but what the heck, at least the people you didn't vote for now know to TW occassionally just for kicks :lol:  and
(B)  You can't vote for yourself, so remove that Sadako chap and put someone else's name down instead  :D

TL.  8)

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QuoteIs it possible to get stats from Homer?

 :oops:  I feel like an ass now that I checked it.

Is it possible to get a list of who killed who and how much? I think I killed TL elventy billion times. ;)[/b]

First off, there is a mandatory health warning that needs to be issued for anyone found to be quoting themselves on the forum.  Put your analyst on Danger Money Sadako...  :lol:

Second, I draw to your attention the so-called 'Aga-defence' and claim that I die early for the good of my team.  Many a time I divert your attention, you kill me and someone else on my team kills you  :D  Seriously though, I don't think stats are a great way of picking the team - just think about the skew that is put on the stats for someone on the server early, playing a small map (even if it is restricted to one site or something) and being on the 'wrong side' for that map - they massacred 15-3 when all they are doing is treading water waiting for other players to arrive on the server.  That happens quite alot - end result one player too high, the other too low.

Thirdly, yes you have killed me too many times recently - we'll have to agree to either play on the same side or take to different parts fo the map to avoid each other.  After all, I can't keep supporting your stats forever by giving you all those 'treading water' kills now can I?   :D

TL.  8)

Third, I am big enough to take a lot of flack.  Except I wasn't expecting the flack to be gun fire  :cry:

[size=18]Voting ends at midnight on Monday 4th November.

QuoteIf those are your votes then:

(A) You need to PM them to Oldie not post them to the forum - but what the heck, at least the people you didn't vote for now know to TW occassionally just for kicks :lol: and

Naah ... those aren't my list. I just checked last night for fun after Smite had been pulling the stats from the ED ladder.

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(B) You can't vote for yourself, so remove that Sadako chap and put someone else's name down instead :D
TL. 8)

Yeah that guy sucks. Remove him.  :oops:  That's me isn't it.  :roll:

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QuoteIs it possible to get stats from Homer?

 :oops:  I feel like an ass now that I checked it.

Is it possible to get a list of who killed who and how much? I think I killed TL elventy billion times. ;)[/b]

First off, there is a mandatory health warning that needs to be issued for anyone found to be quoting themselves on the forum.  Put your analyst on Danger Money Sadako...  :lol:
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Point taken. Doh! I did it again. :x  :lol:

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Second, I draw to your attention the so-called 'Aga-defence' and claim that I die early for the good of my team. Many a time I divert your attention, you kill me and someone else on my team kills you :D Seriously though, I don't think stats are a great way of picking the team - just think about the skew that is put on the stats for someone on the server early, playing a small map (even if it is restricted to one site or something) and being on the 'wrong side' for that map - they massacred 15-3 when all they are doing is treading water waiting for other players to arrive on the server. That happens quite alot - end result one player too high, the other too low.

I agree with you fully. I picked my eight guys from both being teamplayers and being good with the gun. Stats don't say a whole lot about the game and usually just f**ks up people and they play foolishly just to improve their stats.

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Thirdly, yes you have killed me too many times recently - we'll have to agree to either play on the same side or take to different parts fo the map to avoid each other. After all, I can't keep supporting your stats forever by giving you all those 'treading water' kills now can I?  :D

Well actually I don't think I have killed you that much. There was one evening when I seemed to hit and kill you no matter what. After that I think that both of us have been focusing to much on each others kills of each other and that is why we think there have been massive killing of each other.

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Third, I am big enough to take a lot of flack. Except I wasn't expecting the flack to be gun fire :cry:

 :oops:  Slap me when I am over the line. Sorry bro'.  :(

QuoteThird, I am big enough to take a lot of flack. Except I wasn't expecting the flack to be gun fire :cry:

At least it wasn't from behind you :-)

my 2p

Stats like awp's are for little girls with a bag of kittens who like knitting. (this has been toned down to save offence !! 8O )
no indication can be had from who has killed the most to who is the most effective team member 1 example is all that is needed, apologies in advance to DW !! :angel: . my list is in nuff said.

I agree with everything FB says [apart from the bit where he reckons he is smarter, more intelligent and better looking than me:-)]

I also must agree with FB, number of kills do not signify the best team players. Anyone can buy an AWM, find a comfy snipe spot and slowly kill the opposition. But they may never plant the bomb, defuse the bomb, touch a hossie or even know if/ where any of the above exist.
Nuff said methinks, common opinion.

Good point, but in a clan match if you were to take an awm and wipe out the other team, you would be hailed as a hero...

Eight people still haven't voted.  :x

Name and shame.  :x  Er..it's not me is it?

Oldie name them and i will verbally abuse them until they vote :lol:  :twisted:

QuoteGood point, but in a clan match if you were to take an awm and wipe out the other team, you would be hailed as a hero...

True, I should try a bit of sniping more often, I find it rather tricky. And since the MH start money is up at 16000 there's no excuse.

/me waits for the 'AWM Police' to swoop. :roll:

Sadako must be working.....

And the Donkey must be ruminateing ...

Me? never.

Regurgitated grass anyone?  Very tasty. MMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

QuoteMe? never.

Regurgitated grass anyone? Very tasty. MMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

 :lol:

No thanks, I am trying to quit.

QuoteEight people still haven't voted. :x

Maybe they're just giving this a good deal of thought, Oldie.
Perhaps tooo much....?

i know i am. :D


My votes will reach you before the deadline unless i am killed by dogs beforehand.

damn....now where did i put that pack of rabid jack russells.......nope can't find them...must have eaten them.....mmmmm jack russell on toast

Quote.....mmmmm jack russell on toast

FB, that is disgusting. As jack russells have a taste similar to chicken you don't wanna be putting them on toast, you're much better off making things like fajitas with them.  :sombrero:   tongue

Now, please come take your crazed rabid creatures away as the children would like to go outside.  8O

QuoteEight people still haven't voted. :x

I have to admit I was 1 of the eight, but I thought we had until midnight on the 4th.

Sorry      :oops:

You did.  :D

TL.  8)

Oldie is probably at this minute wondering why he didn;t think about a tie-breaker question so that he can split a bunch of peoplke who have tied on votes for the final Zombie place  :D

I've been abducted by Aliens for the past week and have only just got round to this Topic......i guess i've missed the final post.

But if i could have voted i sure as hell wouldn't have voted for SphincterBoy Smitey cuz he's crap, even though he's quite average at CS. :lol:

i feel so retarded at the moment, im not sure whos who. Anyway my list of eight would be completely arbitary and might as well do a lucky dip, like that idiot that won the 10 million.

Oh yeah I read about him, some young criminal whos done everything from stealing to throwing a brick through a bus window. To quote "I've decided to leave these ways behind me". I hate it when tossers like that win the lottery.  And it was his very first ticket I hear.

Yeah but he's gonna say that to all the peeps that don't spend money EVERY week on th ebleedin' lottery ........and to piss every body else off who spends a friggin' fortune on it ..... and wins a tenner  twice a year
razza frazzin razzin GIT!!!!!!!!

On the bright side, he's unlikely to bother anyone's car and nick the radio now for a while though, eh?

Who knows on these things, maybe he'll turn into a better person than he was than someone who was 'nice' beforehand, and then got filthy rich.

It's only laughably absurd hopes like that that get me out of bed every morning...  :?

Hehehe......this guy lives in a village up the road from me. The B*stard got his ticket from the News agent round the corner.THAT WAS MY TICKET :(

Ask for it back. I'm sure he'll understand.  :)

even better nick his nice new porche

QuoteAsk for it back. I'm sure he'll understand. :)

er..........would you & 10 others mind accompanying me while i explain things to him :)