Sheepy's first foray into Baldric with the Ghost squadron didn't work too well for a number of reasons but the main problem can be solved.
For reason best explained by Doggers; Baldric and Meat Hook have got their various configs 'shared'. This means that when you set up Baldric for an MR12 match it will lose all that information on it's next map change and revert to 'timed' rounds. :x :o|:
Baldric is only used for matches and the vast majority of those will be under standard MR12 configs. If it were running such a config 24/7 then it would only need to have it's map changed and rounds restarted. No other config changes are needed. Anyone with the appropriate password could drive the rcon commands to do that. This makes Adminmod, Clanmod and Statsme superfluous and, as such, they could be removed from Baldric to eliminate their part in the config mayhem.
If the above cannot be achieved then I think it would be worth changing both servers to MR12 configs.
Although I'm posting this here for all admins to see it is only 'Doggers the Wonder Op' who can sort out this tangle. For the sake of my sanity I hope it's soon. 8O
It's complicated. Both servers have their own configs; both servers operate independently; both servers share some of the mod configs.
Just to add a little confusion into my already spinning head, some bright spark decided to introduce a unified mod directory structure for new mods so that they would all conform to one standard directory structure.
Guess what? Not all mods conform to the unified mod directory structure yet. So some mods are called from server.cfg, some from server.cfg.27016 and some are called from metamod. This is why admin mod stopped working when I upgraded it to the latest version, but clan mod carried on regardless. Oh, and admin mod came with its own version of metamod buried in the setup script which overwrote the one that was working.
You want more? OK, the new admin mod throws out all the existing admin mod settings in server.cfg and server.cfg.27016, replacing them with settings that conform to the unified mod directory structure. Among these arbitrary changes is one that rewrites one of the variables used to identify and authorise admins. It doesn't even use the default one which was in the original config - they just added a nice new one to make sure that everyone's settings get fscked, not just the unfortunate souls who changed the default to something that made sense.
So if a server goes a bit strange, or if something stops working that previously worked and doesn't get fixed within 5 minutes, or if anyone wonders "Why doesn't Doggers volunteer himself for additional squad-leading/tactical-teaching/match-player-chasing/whatever-else-might-need-doing tasks?", now you know.
Told you it would be better if Doggers explained :lol:
Explained im more confused than ever 8O
Hint: you only need to understand the last paragraph...
ITs the only bit i do understand :wink:
Did he offer to buy us all a drink?
Yep and im sure a curry was mentioned aswell
Ill have a Chicken Tikka massala with mushroom pillau rice annnnnnd garlic naan bread ....mmmm oh yeah and box of onion baajis aswell.
BTW Vodka and redbull for me :D
Baldric wont let me talk rcon to him anymore. :(
Bollox bollox double-bollox :x
Oh, FFS...
Oldie has a different problem to the one I have, but medical matters aside, I can use rcon commands when I am ON Baldric, but not when I am outside Baldric. Hence I had to jump into Baldric last night and masquerade as a Ghost for last night's match so that it could be admin'd. Oldie can't speak to Baldric at all - inside or outside , it won;t even say Boo to him :(
The problem only seems to have appeared yesterday - I am sure that it working earlier in the weekend.
And for the fix, over to you Doggers :D
TL. 8)
If I was :x before and feeling :o|: that's nothing to how I'm feeling now.
Baldric is turning this clan into a laughing stock.
It has to be carefully setup for each and every match and, as TL found out last night, after every map change[1].
It infuriates both home and away teams with it's spamming (/switch does NOT stop it all).
Lastly, and most importantly, it kicks players for TK'ing irrespective of how the cvars are set (one of the mods doing it's thing no doubt). This cost us a player in one round last night when it was too late in the round to press the 'forgivetk' option. It won't be long before this costs us a match either by player-loss or by dispute. I for one don't look forward to that day.
Doggers - sorry old Chap but this one can only be sorted by you. Until you can get Baldric running a proper config fulltime then please make the following changes.
Please remove all mods from Baldric. They're not needed.
In the mr12.cfg file - change mp_maxrounds 12 to mp_maxrounds 20. This will result in admins only having to exec mr12.cfg once for each match. At the end of 12 rounds the score is recorded, teams swap sides and a restart is executed.
Finally, when's the rcon password on MH/Baldric going to be changed? The current password is well known outside of the admins and, after more mod madness, even outside of the clan FFS.
Rant over (for now). :evil:
Disgruntled of Dagenham (Burwell actually but it don't sound as good).
[1] The server is setup by exec'ing the MR12 config file. This changes lots of cvars to be compliant with both Clanbase and ED rules. These changes are lost after every map change so requiring another exec of the config.
new rcon for baldric password is:
lordpercy
i have no idea if it works because I can't log on and edit the configs at the same time. you all can help by posting complaints/rant/whatever you feel like.
n.b. try not to include anything helpful - stuff like "it's not working" is usually enough to keep me happy for a few hours at a time. if you want to play one of those jokes i like so much, try changing your own configs as well.
if i do manage to get something working, feel free to change your requirement for the configs - 2 mins before a vital clan match is a good time to tell me.
Now i'm not sure but I think Doggers just said ...
"I understand the problem and I will endeavour to remedy these shortcomings as soon as I find time in my busy schedule."
Or it could have been ...
"Stop being such a picky bastard and be grateful for what you've got."
Mmmm :? Stryker - can you translate as you speak Rottweiler. :biggrin:
that pw doesn;t work for me - there was a momentary green 'OK' before it jumped to bad rcon password.
Wassup?
TL. 8)
Update:
I can now rcon into Baldric. 8)
I suspect that my failed attempts at new/old passwords got me locked out somehow.
Anyway, I've changed the server password back to 'baldric' to bring it back in line with fixture details. I've tried changing maps and the server password is staying as baldric. However, I suspect that if the server needs to be restarted (not the map) then it will revert to maglite so bare that in mind.
The rcon password remains as lordpercy.
Hope that helps.
Confirmed, it now appears to work for me too :D
Thanks whoever for whatever etc
TL. 8)
I cannot rcon into either server now. :(
I am also unable to rcon from outside :(
TL. 8)
I can't rcon from inside or using HLSW.
Doggers - I have no rcon access to either server.
Adminmod and Clanmod are both working fine.
I can type rcon_password and receive the correct response but I'm unable to do anything else using rcon.
When you get a minute perhaps you'd look into it for me.
Cheers.
When I join the server now I get a console message "Admin Access: Unable to find player -=[dMw]=-TeaLeaf'. This never used to appear.
Is this something to do with the 'An Admin Has Joined the Server' script Doggers? I still appear to be able to run commands from withint he server, it's just the console message that's different - no message re admin joining occurs as far as I can see when I join.
rcon from outside still awol.
TL. 8)
More info DM ...
If I monitor the MH using the MH Admin Tool I can see HLSW trying to access the server with the server responding 'bad rcon password'.
???
Yet the rcon password of grandprix obviously works for TeaLeaf. :?
actually I get bad rcon password too from outside the server - but for some reason when I connect to MH or Baldric and am on the server, then from inside my Bobs Menu seems to work just fine as do admin_rcon commands.
TL. 8)
Interesting, played with MH Admin Tool a little further - I can send a message into Homer using the MH admin tool from outside, even though it is logging bad rcon messages from me all the time. HLSW won't let me do anything from outside.
When I disconnected MH Admin Tool the bad rcon messages stopped. So it would appear that MH Admin works fine, but HLSW doesn't on its current settings, which is a shame as it is a cool tool. Which pw have you got set up for MH and Baldric within the Admin Tool Doggers/Oldie?
MH Admin Tool does not appear to work for me on Baldric. I can get no message to show.
Commands do not appear to work for me from either HLSW or MH Admin Tool.
Bob's Menu works for me on both MH & Baldric as long as I am in the server. But it needs some serious editing to make all the options works. Any volunteers?
Cummon back good buddie......
TL. 8)
Just to get this straight. The MH Admin tool uses the same password and ports as HLSW. I don't know what other fiddling HLSW does to connect, but it's stopped working.
So long as MH Admin is working and I have other issues to resolve (baldric's refusal to keep its settings, for instance) I'm not going to bust a gut investigating HLSW's problems.
There is also a web-based admin tool aimed specifically at Admin Mod users which I have looked at recently which may be more useful than the existing tools we use.
QuoteSo long as MH Admin is working and I have other issues to resolve (baldric's refusal to keep its settings, for instance) I'm not going to bust a gut investigating HLSW's problems.
Understandable.
But I can't use bog-standard rcon from within the server. That I do need.
QuoteUnderstandable.
But I can't use bog-standard rcon from within the server. That I do need.
Can you use the AM variations of rcon commands, such as "admin_csay" and that sort of thing?
AM works differently from standard rcon in that you get authenicated by your WONID and password which aren't linked (directly) to the rcon password, so you can still run rcon commands through AM even if you can't run rcon commands directly.
And yes, it is a serious problem not being able to use plain rcon, so I'm looking into it. 8)
QuoteCan you use the AM variations of rcon commands, such as "admin_csay" and that sort of thing?
I can certainly use them as part of the menus but I haven't tried it 'direct'. I'll give it a go later.
/me brushes up on Adminmod commands.
I'll get you windoze weenies using the CLI for everything yet. Muhahaha... :twisted:
It's weird. For example ...
I can do admin_csay and admin_tsay but not admin_say nor admin_restartround.
Either way it always says I do not have access to that command. :?
Update:
While checking which Adminmod/Clanmod commands worked I used the Clanmod '3 round restart' match option. This restarted the server 3 times and then broadcast 'Server Password:grandprix'. 8O
Aha! So it's that clanmod command that's changing the server password to grandprix (and broadcasting it).
I then used Adminmod to reapply the 'maglite' password. It appeared to have worked but it didn't. So, we were playing most of the evening on an un-passworded server. This explains some of the new names on tonight (and their indiscretions).
Yep we had some strangers in tonight and i had to warn one chap 3 times for leaving the compound on assault he kept ignoring me so i had some fun with slap ie ontop of building slap off building :D after a few times with this he left....i did point out the site to read and continued to ask him to stop going outside NICELY but to no avail....still havnt tried teleport yet ..could have been an ideal oportunity
Continuing this and with reference to the kick I had to apply last night to Banshee, we cannot currently comply with our own admin standards :oops: The command admin_kick doesn;t work, hence we can't inform the violoator of the reason and who kicked them. I used ClanMod to kick Banshee last night and that doesn;t give you the option to add a message. How do we get around this?
Also, whilst Oldie & I were testing out the ClanMod, AdminMod commands yesterday early evening, we re-confirmed that a whole load of admin_mod commands don't seem to work. SOme of the non-working commands have been seen in action when used by Doggers, so they must work. Have all admins been set up with the same Access Levels Doggers?
Interesting examples of what didn't work was the part of admin_csay; admin_map (which works but tells you in console that you don;t have access to that command); admin_psay (quote a useful one that doesn't work); admin_say; admin_vsay; and the important admin_bury, admin_gag, admin_llama, admin_slap, admin_slay (and their un-counterparts).
Any thoughts as to why some work and some don't?
TL. 8)
QuoteHave all admins been set up with the same Access Levels Doggers?
Any thoughts as to why some work and some don't?
First part of the answer: Everyone has the same access levels.
Second part of the answer: It's fecked.
Now - shall I try and fix it or do you lot want to keep making changes to everything so often that I don't know whether to wind my TANGO or scratch my watch?
8)
I have some ready-printed 'TANGO' and 'ELBOW' labels if that helps 8)
QuoteI have some ready-printed 'TANGO' and 'ELBOW' labels if that helps 8)
Will you still be OK if you sent me a couple?
:lol: