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Title: My hdd
Post by: GhostMjr on August 04, 2004, 09:49:24 AM
Ok i bought a western digital hard drive a few months back but it has a capacity of 160gb! For sme reason it only shows 127gb in windows! There are no partitions on the drives! I contacted western digital who were helpful for someone who is hardware minded but i am reletively new to all this hdd nonsense! Some about changing some bit format blah blah went straight over my head! Can some1 who has done this or knows the solution please put it in very noobish terms for me as i don't want to not have 40gb tht i could have but windows won't let me access it

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Title: My hdd
Post by: Grimnar on August 04, 2004, 09:54:41 AM
that is normal.


Windows doesn't show the rest because it can't.

You have to make partitions on the drive to see all of it.


I have 2 hdd's 1 200GB and 1 80GB

the 200 is shown as 120 in windows but i maked two partitions on it and then it shows the full 200GB.


So don't think your hdd is broken down or windows doesn't work correct because it is normal.
Title: My hdd
Post by: Benny on August 04, 2004, 10:01:06 AM
That's not strictly true.

What OS?

If you are running XP with NTFS it recognises large drives. Post all the details here.
Title: My hdd
Post by: Grimnar on August 04, 2004, 10:07:26 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Benny@Aug 4 2004, 10:01 AM
If you are running XP with NTFS it recognises large drives. Post all the details here.
Then it should be the first time i see that with xp.
Title: My hdd
Post by: GhostMjr on August 04, 2004, 10:10:00 AM
I am running windows xp home edition! and i updated my bios as i thought that could be the problem! from A03 to A09 from dell! I read xp does not support drives over 127gb i may have misinterpretted this tho  :whistle:
Title: My hdd
Post by: Benny on August 04, 2004, 10:49:21 AM
ok, not my words, but from the MS guys here at work (edited as I'm a dick)

'I have a 160gig drive running with no problems at all, it recognised it and off it went'

I'll ask him again..


/Benny goes back to desk and stops passing off other peoples information as his own
Title: My hdd
Post by: Dingo on August 04, 2004, 11:07:46 AM
You might find this useful? <_<

http://www.theeldergeek.com/hard_drives.htm (http://www.theeldergeek.com/hard_drives.htm)
Title: My hdd
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 04, 2004, 11:47:27 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by GhostMjr@Aug 4 2004, 09:10 AM
I am running windows xp home edition! and i updated my bios as i thought that could be the problem! from A03 to A09 from dell! I read xp does not support drives over 127gb i may have misinterpretted this tho  :whistle:
I just read it's 137Gb ... go figure
Several people say it's because your XP is old and not update to SP1.
Others suggest it could be your motherboard of course, reaching a limit.

more from google...
http://support.octek.com.au/FAQ/faq_0113.htm (http://support.octek.com.au/FAQ/faq_0113.htm)
http://forums.sudhian.com/messageview.cfm?...61617&forumid=1 (http://forums.sudhian.com/messageview.cfm?catid=43&threadid=61617&forumid=1)
http://hardware.mcse.ms/message37716.html (http://hardware.mcse.ms/message37716.html)
...google is your friend :rolleyes:
Title: My hdd
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 04, 2004, 11:47:57 AM
eep

post went in twice

hate that

 :dummy:
Title: My hdd
Post by: Dr Sadako on August 04, 2004, 12:30:15 PM
I have windows XP and the following

120 GB Seagate SATA-> Capacity 111 GB
200 GB Maxtor SATA-> Capacity 189 GB
160 GB Seagate -> Capacity 149 GB
160 GB Samsung -> Capacity 149 GB
120 GB Seagate -> Capacity 111 GB

You will never get out the full GB of a HDD, simple as that.
Title: My hdd
Post by: GhostMjr on August 04, 2004, 12:36:17 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sadako@Aug 4 2004, 11:30 AM
I have windows XP and the following

120 GB Seagate SATA-> Capacity 111 GB
200 GB Maxtor SATA-> Capacity 189 GB
160 GB Seagate -> Capacity 149 GB
160 GB Samsung -> Capacity 149 GB
120 GB Seagate -> Capacity 111 GB

You will never get out the full GB of a HDD, simple as that.
mines about 40gb off tho  :angry: Mine is an IDE drive so iu am still not sure wot to do  :whistle:
Title: My hdd
Post by: Cadaver on August 04, 2004, 01:27:32 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sadako@Aug 4 2004, 12:30 PM
I have windows XP and the following

120 GB Seagate SATA-> Capacity 111 GB
200 GB Maxtor SATA-> Capacity 189 GB
160 GB Seagate -> Capacity 149 GB
160 GB Samsung -> Capacity 149 GB
120 GB Seagate -> Capacity 111 GB

You will never get out the full GB of a HDD, simple as that.
This is normal.  It's not the fact you're not getting the full indicated capacity of the drive, rather Windows is reporting it 'differently'.

HDD sizes are reported using base10 format.  So a 120GB drive is actually 120x10^9 bytes (or 120,000,000,000 bytes ).

The confusion comes when Windows reports the hard drive using the standard base2 format it uses for memory, i.e.

120,000,000,000 bytes / 1024 = 117187500 KB
117187500 KB / 1024 = ~114441 MB
114441 MB / 1024 = ~111 GB

Windows XP has a limitation on the maximum HDD size being 137 GB.  See here (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303013) for details.  SP1 is supposed to fix this limitation, as suicidal_monkey rightly said.
Title: My hdd
Post by: Benny on August 04, 2004, 01:53:05 PM
SO I was right then....

That info was all mine.
Title: My hdd
Post by: Rabbi Bob on August 04, 2004, 02:40:16 PM
I'm late to the party  :blink:

Someone else was asking me about this today.  Another read on the same thing:

http://support.octek.com.au/FAQ/faq_0113.htm (http://support.octek.com.au/FAQ/faq_0113.htm)
Title: My hdd
Post by: Barley on August 04, 2004, 10:49:55 PM
The simple answer, but smaller hard drives guys! :)
Title: My hdd
Post by: Benny on August 04, 2004, 10:58:41 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by FoCA|Bob_Barley@Aug 4 2004, 10:49 PM
The simple answer, but smaller hard drives guys! :)
So simple you couldn't spell it? :D
Title: My hdd
Post by: Barley on August 04, 2004, 11:07:10 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Benny+Aug 4 2004, 09:58 PM-->
QUOTE (Benny @ Aug 4 2004, 09:58 PM)
Title: My hdd
Post by: DarkAngel on August 04, 2004, 11:42:06 PM
Who cares you dont really need all that space any way ive got a 200gb hd that is only showing up at 127gb. But i dont mind i wont use it all anyway now if you were benny you might...
Title: My hdd
Post by: Barley on August 05, 2004, 07:59:00 AM
I have 2 x 60GB HD's and I can't fill 'em! :)
Title: My hdd
Post by: Benny on August 05, 2004, 09:17:50 AM
ponces, I've got best part of half a terabyte busting out at the seams. Bring your drives to the LAN, I'll fill 'em.
Title: My hdd
Post by: Rabbi Bob on August 05, 2004, 10:45:35 AM
on my network right now: 60,60,30,30,60,30,30,40

and I'm looking at 200GB's drives to go in somewhere  :blink:

You can never have enough space  :lol: